are women who dress provocatively 'asking for it'?

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Ok, ok, yes I really look like Bernie Barker.
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Ok, ok, yes I really look like Bernie Barker.
How about Bernie Sanders?
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@Shila
They have no moral barriers or obligations. 
People don't have any moral obligations if they don't want them? I don't think that's how obligations work.
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People don't have any moral obligations if they don't want them? I don't think that's how obligations work.
People have moral obligations to the religion they follow or to the code of ethics they live by.
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They certainly are retarded and asking for guys to stare at them. Are they asking to be SA’d? No.
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@Mharman
They certainly are retarded and asking for guys to stare at them. Are they asking to be SA’d? No.
Women need attention. That is why enter beauty pageants and beauty contests. 
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@Shila
Bottom line is.

The organism needs to be pregnant.

Though the thinking brain has been taught to think differently.

Sort of a conflict of bodily processes.
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@n8nrgim
...so if women know there are lots of men looking to take advantage of them, doesn't it make sense not to dress slutty? 
It is not an all black and or all white issue,  --I dont mean race-- i.e. it is complex issue. Technicolor of vari-ables 

1} circumstances altar cases for men and women,

2} men and women are each individuals within their genetic and family culture --often rebel or test the limits-- and as we grow, we learn what works for that individual or not, depending on the environmental circumstances,

3} wrong place at wrong time does not equate as wrong outfit at wrong time, however, it may and again,  the outcomes of many situations are variable with man various factors being involved --not all black and white--  and how man or womam dresses, is just one factor to be considered by the individual, as  they move along through their environmental circumstances, they may modify the looks and actions,

4} Men are pushers and women are attractors Bucky Fuller i.e. symmetry and asymmetry of curvy nature is a beauty to  men and women.  Wider hips in some cultures may be more attractive to men, if they are considering a woman for abilities to bear children more easily ergo safely. True or not.

...4a} Testoterone makes the men ---in general--- to be more pushy, and we come to the old adage, women cry, men fry. Men explode much larger more often than women.  Women are have more little explosions to set their boundaries, whereas men keep it and fry their bran/emotion/soul then have big explosion.

B Fuller states something like this.....Universe has two ways of releasing energy. Lot of little more frequent bangs, or less much larger bangs.


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This is absurd, it's only the attitude of rapists making excuses, and incels.

Women want to be attractive, they want to be wanted, sometimes they want to get laid, but that doesn't mean they are "asking for it" to be raped.

If you drive an expensive car, you aren't "asking for it" to have it stolen.

If you live in an expensive home, you aren't "asking for it" to be robbed.

You wear a Rolex watch doesn't mean you are "asking for it" to be mugged.

If a man works hard to be attractive to women, is he just "asking for it" to be murdered by a jealous incel? Of course not.

Victim blaming is nonsense, and this idea that attractive women are "asking for it" to be raped is just the misogyny of guilty rapists or sexually frustrated men.

If you don't like being called an incel, tough, you were just "asking for it".
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Thank you SD, good stuff all. Hit nail on the head.....etc
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@Best.Korea
You agree that there are risks and if done right, you can avoid them. You can consent to that reality. If sex is done right, you do get pregnancy and that is consent to that. I agree.
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@Mall
You agree that there are risks and if done right, you can avoid them
Risk of pregnancy is avoided by abortion.

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So a man that desires to eject pregnancy material is not consenting to do so .
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@Best.Korea
Pregnancy in nature is the outcome of the function to sexual intercourse for the umpteenth time. You can call it a risk. It's just like calling a risk of driving, operating a motor vehicle.
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@Mall
Pregnancy in nature is the outcome of the function to sexual intercourse for the umpteenth time. You can call it a risk. It's just like calling a risk of driving, operating a motor vehicle.
You can avoid pregnancy by having an abortion so pregnancy isnt a problem.
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Thank you SD, good stuff all. Hit nail on the head.....etc
Everybody here is on the internet, it only takes a few keystrokes to be informed about a subject matter, but hardly anyone here ever bothers. 

This subject has been extensively studied, and there is no evidence whatsover that dressing provocatively increases the probability of rape, the fact is, the converse is true.  The motivation for rape is control, dominance and violence, more often than not, it's the woman whose dress and demeaner says "I don't want to have sex" that gets the rapists attention, it's not the woman whose dress and demeaner says "I want to have sex" that gets the rapist's attention. 

Rapists get off on taking a woman against her will, doing to her what she doesn't want.  To the rapist, a woman who looks like she doesn't want to have sex is more appealing than one who looks like she wants to have sex.

Men in prison rape, it's certainly not because they think the victim has a nice ass, it's an act of violence, meant to control and dominate.

It's more likely that a woman who looks like the rapist's mother is "asking for it".







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@zedvictor4
Bottom line is.

The organism needs to be pregnant.

Though the thinking brain has been taught to think differently.

Sort of a conflict of bodily processes.
Women use contraceptives to avoid getting pregnant too.
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@Best.Korea
Yes  you can avoid the function of many things. Doesn't negate the function. Function and risk are not synonymous. Now I don't deny that people like to go around the function for their hedonistic, personal, unique whims. It is what it is. 

But to use something for what it supposed to do is consensual. Even if your plan is to manipulate to maneuver around it.
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@Mall
Yes  you can avoid the function of many things. Doesn't negate the function.
Abortion removes the function so that sex can be done without pregnancy.
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@Best.Korea
Abortion removes the function so that sex can be done without pregnancy.
Abortion is only necessary when prevention fails.
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@Shila
Abortion is only necessary when prevention fails.
Many things can be used so that pregnancy isnt a problem.
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Many things can be used so that pregnancy isnt a problem.
Trans don’t have to deal with pregnancy.
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Trans don’t have to deal with pregnancy.
Yes because trans women still cant get pregnant

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Trans don’t have to deal with pregnancy.
Yes because trans women still cant get pregnant
How are you going to deal with this deficiency?
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@Shila
How are you going to deal with this deficiency?
Its an upgrade.

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How are you going to deal with this deficiency?
It’s an upgrade.
You mean adoption.
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@Shila
You mean adoption.
People arent forced to have kids.

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@Best.Korea
You mean adoption.
People arent forced to have kids.
Thought you wanted to be a better parent than your parents.
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@Shila
Thought you wanted to be a better parent than your parents.
I dont want to be a parent at all, let alone compete with my parents.
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@Best.Korea
Thought you wanted to be a better parent than your parents.
I dont want to be a parent at all, let alone compete with my parents.
You just want to be a good trans, right?