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@Mharman
2 hours left let's get Austin. If we get lucky and he is the role blocker it gives me a free investigation
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@Cerulean
Let's get Austin. No way should he be in anyone's town pile.
Here is what everyone is forgetting. We can make the correct lynch here and buy ourselves some wiggle room. It doesn't need to be me or nobody. That is a bullshit narrative.
Official Vote Count:
Wylted (3/5) - Lunatic, Austin, ADOL
Whiteflame (1/5) - Mharman
Austin (1/5) - Wylted
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@Lunatic
Ok, so he claimed only his role under no pressure then. Doesn't change the fact that he claimed under no pressure. I see your point about how his teammate could have signed off on his behavior, but it's just that: A "could have."
Sure, a scum teammate could just let Wylted do whatever, but in my experience scum tends to be more collaborative.
They could also not be knowledgable on the theme, but that assumes they haven't done research. At the very least, they'd know the theme split puts their real characters in the crosshairs, and claiming the role associated with said character is silly.
Wylted could have such a playstyle like what you're describing, and he could be so aggressive that he claimed vanillizer without any input from his teammate, without a desire to claim a character. Last time I saw Wylted as scum, he did not play like that. To me, the level of aggression being asserted here is a bit far, even for Wylted, and I also think it rests on too many assumptions.
And sure, there could be some strong investigative ability hiding out there. But that's gonna vary from player to player on whether or not they hide.
My point here is, your scumread on him depends on a perfect storm of Wylted being this aggro and brazen (in multiple differents ways so this could be split further), no teammate holding him back, and a strong investigative role just hiding out.
My townread on him is just more natural. He got mislynched for failing to SoP last game, and he adjusted by claiming at the slightest thought that his role could be negative utility, and therefore SoP-worthy. He is a cop, and he really did feel like clearing you. Themesplit is of little importance because it could be anything.
I get not everything is what it seems in the game of mafia, but sometimes, the "simple truth" is actually the truth. Too many things have to line up for your case.
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@WyIted
yeah, I can see an Austin and Whiteflame team. I feel like you're not considering just how much Cerulean could be be flying under the radar right now.
Are you down for Whiteflame? I'd want the claim first, but he's gonna be my preferred lynch over Austin because my top team theory is Whiteflame Cerulean. The upside is that if I'm wrong on Cerulean, we've still gotten Whiteflame, who is also Austin most likely teammate for me if he's scum.
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@Mharman
My hesitance on whiteflame and I don't like admitting it because I am so mad I want to give him shit now, is that he did mention being role blocked. What's the scum motivation behind that statement?
Thinking about Cerulean potentially being scum is annoying just because I am the one that let him slide and I realized after the fact that I decreased the amount of mislynches we could do but one, because I did that
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@WyIted
Not quite sure, admittedly. My best guess is that it's simply for towncred. For example, if scum didn't roleblock someone last night, they can claim they were roleblocked.
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@Mharman
1 hour 30 minutes
For an alternative lynch to work we have to figure out who at least a few of the people on my wagon would be willing to lynch and I have been almost the entire focus of this DP
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@Mharman
I am willing to take a shot against him. I prefer Austin but also maybe even a counter wagon is pointless because even if we could get whiteflame lynched, it's still probably better to lynch him next DP
I really really want to lynch whoever had the roleblock ability if they even exist though.
No cap I am town and you guys are Ohio.
The only person here who is bussin is mharman. Non of you have rizz.
Skibidy
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@WyIted
oh no gen alpha infected you...
For an alternative lynch to work we have to figure out who at least a few of the people on my wagon would be willing to lynch and I have been almost the entire focus of this DP
i'm down
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@Mharman
I learn new words from my son and I allow him to watching gaming content pretty much unrestricted since gamers have a naturally conservative tilt.
I do have to ban him from channels that get a little too based but those are kind of rare.
The price I pay is that I have to hear retarded slang and be called bro all the time
Also skibidy toilet is not as bad as people make it out to be. Stop being close minded
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@Lunatic
@whiteflame
@ADreamOfLiberty
@AustinL0926
@Cerulean
Would any of yall be down for an alternative lynch on Austin or Whiteflame? If not, what alternative lynches do you prefer? What about a VTNL? Im not really decided on a VTNL, but I am leaning towards a lynch over a VTNL.
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@WyIted
That depends on the game. The CoD community and Warhammer community are more conservative compared to most, but Pokemon and Overwatch? Yeah good luck finding conservatives there. I've played the latter two.
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@Mharman
Wait until the wokies start fucking up their games also. They'll change their tune.
What's funny is the George Bush and Clinton types could have held onto power indefinitely but they started fucking with gamers by making everything suck so they elected Trump
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@WyIted
You know damn well a lynch of me isn't going through and you have no good reason to town read Austin. Let's deviate.
I don’t understand this response. You townread Earth too, so you believe him when he says he’s the hammerer. You already have 3 votes on you. That suggests that you need only one more vote to be lynched.
Also, I’m still unclear on this. Why are you sussing Austin? Because his logic seems sound to me.
Gamers know they changed the world also. They were happy to stay politically agnostic but it got forced on them, starting with the gamer gate lies. Here is a meme popular in gaming communities
https://imgflip.com/memegenerator/446371389/I-just-wanted-to-play-videogames
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@whiteflame
I don’t understand this response. You townread Earth too, so you believe him when he says he’s the hammerer. You already have 3 votes on you. That suggests that you need only one more vote to be lynched.
I forgot about this
Also, I’m still unclear on this. Why are you sussing Austin? Because his logic seems sound to me.
What logic? We know that scum will be on my wagon because their is no reputational loss from doing so.
His logic is what? That me claiming cop with one vote on me was so I could escape suspicion?
That's stupid logic it's not a move that alleviates suspicion.
I can't even think of his other reasons at the moment but I am pretty sure why I already pointed out that they are definitely wrong.
Also yes. Earth is town
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@Mharman
Would any of yall be down for an alternative lynch on Austin or Whiteflame? If not, what alternative lynches do you prefer? What about a VTNL? Im not really decided on a VTNL, but I am leaning towards a lynch over a VTNL.
If you’re pushing for a lynch on Austin, I need some insight into what he’s been doing this DP that stands as scummy. Wanting to lynch an un-CC’d Cop is the only reasoning I saw from this DP, and we already know there is at least one confirmed town member ready and willing to do exactly that. I get your reasoning when it comes to his views on Cerulean last DP, but you’re arguing that his push here is scummy and I’d like to know what distinguishes him from Luna and ADOL.
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@whiteflame
If you think Austin is town than that means literally everyone on my wagon right now is town, assuming you are town and risking a no lynch despite zero reputational loss for lynching me
I'd choose a lynch of a VTNL most times, unsure if that applies to Wylted. Upside is the info and resolution, downside is that it's an obvious mislynch and we'll be in MYLO tomorrow. I know you guys don't see it that way, but I do. VTNLing lacks the information but we won't be in MYLO tommorrow. Have half a mind to say we'll have enough night information to cover, although I'm not sure on that. I guess if we do lynch Wylted here a play can be made in the night, so there's that.
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@WyIted
What logic? We know that scum will be on my wagon because their is no reputational loss from doing so.
And we already know, based on your reads and information, that there are two town members voting for you. They aren’t scum. I agree, scum have incentive to be on your lynch. Why is Austin specifically scum? PoE?
His logic is what? That me claiming cop with one vote on me was so I could escape suspicion?
That’s not the logic, dude. If Austin made this argument, show me where because I’ve seen him give a lot of points that aren’t this.
gamers have a naturally conservative tilt.
Very much depends on the specific circle.
Anyway, I would prefer an Austin or WF vote over WyIted.
I find this especially strange since Oracle is a fairly strong investigative role, the equivalent of a full rolecop that works even after someone dies, and I don't find it very compatible with cop.
I highly disagree. It's maybe a single check that only occurs if I get nightkilled and doesn't even 100% guarantee an alignment check. "Roleblocker" can go Town or Mafia, for instance.
And if you're a buffoon like me who manages to go under fire on Day 1, it becomes worthless.
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@whiteflame
It wasn't just his read on Cerulean last DP, it was also his read on Lunatic. Keep in mind Lunatic had posted very little at that point- this is before he was town confirmed. This DP, I just think him jumping in on Wylted like that is opportunistic. He was the second on the wagon.