Is there anyone here that can defend it?Is there any one here that can debate it?
The trinity doctrine.
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@Mall
Is there anyone here that can defend it?Is there any one here that can debate it?
The Jews were limited by their inability to see God in multiple forms could not see the Trinity as God’s approach to conceptualize himself as fire, water and spirit or the trinity of God as Father, son and Holy Spirit.
Not that the Jews didn’t try.
Moses even asked God to show his glory to the Jews.
Exodus 33:18 Then Moses said, “Now show me your glory.”
God instead chose to show his backside.
Exodus 33:20 But,” he said, “you cannot see my glory, for no one may see it and live.”
Exodus 33:23 Then I will remove my hand and you will see my backside; but my face must not be seen.”
So the only concept the Jews have of God is his backside and not the trinity.
So how did the Christians see the Trinity?
Jesus said, John 14:9 Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father;
John 14:15-31 NIV - Jesus Promises the Holy Spirit -
Jesus Promises the Holy Spirit - “If you love me, keep my commands. And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another advocate to help you and.
There you have the trinity. God’s backside, Jesus and his promise of the Holy Spirit.
I can but I won't. It can be seen when John the baptists, baptized Jesus but it's not something your finite human brain can possibly grasp anyway
Who tf keeps liking Shila's posts
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@Castin
Who tf keeps liking Shila's posts
I follow Harikrish’s advice to love your neighbour but also be likeable yourself. It seems to be working.
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@Mall
The Christian doctrine of the Trinity was established well after Christ died, but that does not necessarily mean that something implicit in the life of Jesus that was made explicit through theological discourse some four hundred years later is not an image of truth. Theological discourse always occurs after the fact, and I believe that the Trinity concept expresses an ontological and epistemological truth that must necessarily be expressed in a paradoxical way because it is referential to a “higher logic” in which opposites are reconciled. I think it is the Christian way of expressing a transcendent truth that is present in most other religions, and other ways of expressing it in different cultural and historical contexts are equally valid.
As far as I can tell all religions consider this division of reality into its subjective and objective bases to be fundamental to understanding the nature of Man and our relationship to the whole. They all seem to me to be contending that we are an essential part of the ultimate reality and seem to include a "knowing" that the very existence of objective knowledge requires an illusory or false distinction between knowing subject and reality known. It is simply because of the fact that we are a "symbolic" animal that all faiths must explain this separation in symbolic or allegorical terms, by the use of metaphor, and it is why it always seems to be primary to their metaphysical constructions and their definition of human nature. This is strikes me as fundamental to all faiths, it is Hinduism's "Moksha", Buddhism's "Acintya", Taoism's unification of the yin and yang oppositions, and Judaism, Christianity, and Islam's "eating of the fruit of the tree of knowledge" which separated us, or "cast us out" from God's perfection until we can "eat from the fruit of the tree of life".
I see all faiths trying to tell us that in order to overcome our detachment from the true reality we must get past this "flaming sword" of reason "that turns in every direction" and partake of "the fruit of the tree of life". We must see "the flaming sword" of reason which "turns in every direction" as an illusion that artificially separates us from reality and from each other, transcend it in recognition of our solidarity with the whole of reality, and express it with universal love, loving our neighbor as we love ourselves, with the understanding that their faith is to them as our own faith is to us.
I follow Harikrish’s advice to love your neighbour but also be likeable yourself. It seems to be working.
Lol, holy shit. You're not a bot, you're Harikrish. This explains a lot.
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@Mall
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@Castin
Who tf keeps liking Shila's posts?
You could ask the same of a few members here, Castin.
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@WyIted
You can't defend it until you do. Scripture says prove all things.
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@Sidewalker
Can you defend the Trinity doctrine?
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@Shila
Is Father God the holy Spirit?
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@Mall
Scripture does not say prove all things, but It does mention the trinity and I told you where
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@Mall
John the Baptist's baptism of Jesus is considered a significant event in the Christian faith because it demonstrates the Trinity: the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit:
The Father: God the Father spoke from heaven, saying, “This is my Son, the Beloved, with whom I am well pleased”.
The Son: Jesus was being baptized.
The Holy Spirit: The Holy Spirit descended on Jesus like a dove.
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@Mall
Is Father God the holy Spirit?
For there is one person of the Father, another of the Son, and another of the Holy Spirit. But the Godhead of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit is all one. … So the Father is God, the Son is God, and the Holy Spirit is God.
1 John 5:7
There are three in heaven who prove it is true. They are the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit. These three are one.
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@Mall
Can you defend the Trinity doctrine?
Yes
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@Castin
I follow Harikrish’s advice to love your neighbour but also be likeable yourself. It seems to be working.Lol, holy shit. You're not a bot, you're Harikrish. This explains a lot
The6 should bring back Harikrish. So we can have two likeable members instead of just one.
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@Stephen
Who tf keeps liking Shila's posts?You could ask the same of a few members here, Castin.
Fair.
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@Sidewalker
Can you defend the Trinity doctrine?Yes
Why is your neck missing in the picture?
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@WyIted
Scripture also say speak on what you know.
Now if you're ignorant of the scriptures teaching that, don't speak on it.
If you do know, you are lying and the scripture say let God be true and every man, (you) a liar.
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@Shila
Is Father God the Holy Spirit?
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@WyIted
Ok but is the Father the holy Spirit?
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@Sidewalker
Is Father God the holy Spirit?
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@Mall
Is Father God the Holy Spirit?
For there is one person of the Father, another of the Son, and another of the Holy Spirit. But the Godhead of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit is all one. … So the Father is God, the Son is God, and the Holy Spirit is God.
1 John 5:7
There are three in heaven who prove it is true. They are the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit. These three are one.
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@Shila
The reason why you and people can't answer these questions direct but just quote scriptures, you just regurgitating information without actually learning. As the scriptures say , always learning or forever learning never coming to an understanding.
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@Mall
The reason why you and people can't answer these questions direct but just quote scriptures, you just regurgitating information without actually learning. As the scriptures say , always learning or forever learning never coming to an understanding.
It is from scriptures we learn the relationship to the Trinity.
Is Father God the Holy Spirit?
For there is one person of the Father, another of the Son, and another of the Holy Spirit. But the Godhead of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit is all one. … So the Father is God, the Son is God, and the Holy Spirit is God.
1 John 5:7
There are three in heaven who prove it is true. They are the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit. These three are one.
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@Mall
Ok but is the Father the holy Spirit?
Yes. All are one and all are also completely unique
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@Shila
Is the Father spirit?
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@WyIted
Correct, the Father is the holy Spirit.
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@Mall
Is the Father spirit?
1 John 5:7
There are three in heaven who prove it is true. They are the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit. These three are one.