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Hitler only started killing Jews on mass scale once allies bombed German cities and killed hundreds of thousands of German civilians, and supported Russia and total war against him. He did ask them "Do you want total war?".
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Hitler only started killing Jews on mass scale once allies bombed German cities and killed hundreds of thousands of German civilians, and supported Russia and total war against him. He did ask them "Do you want total war?".
The Holocaust was the systematic, state-sponsored, persecution and murder of six million Jews by the Nazi regime and its collaborators between 1933 and 1945. In January 1933, Adolf Hitler, the leader of the Nazi Party, was appointed the chancellor of Germany. The Nazi Party quickly turned Germany from a weak new democracy into a one-party dictatorship. It began persecuting German Jews almost immediately. By 1935, Jews were stripped of their German citizenship. In 1938, Jewish men began to be arrested and sent to concentration camps just for being Jewish. 
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Stalin annexed eastern Poland, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, and parts of Romania; he also attacked Finland and extorted territorial concessions.

Stalin sent millions to gulags, and even starved to death 7 million Ukrainians.

Allies supported Stalin who was worse than Hitler. Hitler was trying to kill Stalin.
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In 1932 and 1933, millions of Ukrainians were killed in the Holodomor, a man-made famine engineered by the Soviet government of Joseph Stalin. The primary victims of the Holodomor (literally "death inflicted by starvation") were rural farmers and villagers, who made up roughly 80 percent of Ukraine's population in the 1930s. While it is impossible to determine the precise number of victims of the Ukrainian genocide, most estimates by scholars range from roughly 3.5 million to 7 million (with some estimates going higher). The most detailed demographic studies estimate the death toll at 3.9 million. Historians agree that, as with other genocides, the precise number will never be known.
Through a study of the Holodomor (which has been referred to as the Great Famine), students can come to understand that the Holodomor is an example of how prejudice and a desire to dominate and control a particular ethnic group can lead to the misuse of power, mass oppression, and genocide.
Ukraine Before the Holodomor
Beginning in the 18th century, Ukrainian territories were divided between the Austrian and Russian Empires. In the aftermath of World War I and the overthrow of the Russian monarchy in February 1917, Ukraine set up a provisional government, declaring itself the independent Ukrainian People's Republic in January 1918. The Ukrainian People's Republic fought the Bolshevik Red Army for three years (1918-1921) but lost its fight for independence.
The bulk of Ukrainian territory was forcibly incorporated into the Soviet Union, or USSR (Union of Soviet Socialist Republics), and by 1922 Ukraine became the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic (UkrSSR). Then the USSR  sanctioned the requisition of all surplus agricultural products from the rural population, resulting in economic collapse.
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Mussolini could have killed 6 million Jews and didn't. Terrorist groups don't usually get as much power as Hitler did. There's a reason Hitler is infamous, killing a huge percentage of his population for no reason.
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The bulk of Ukrainian territory was forcibly incorporated into the Soviet Union, or USSR (Union of Soviet Socialist Republics), and by 1922 Ukraine became the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic (UkrSSR). Then the USSR  sanctioned the requisition of all surplus agricultural products from the rural population, resulting in economic collapse.
Hitler has a good reason for attacking Russia. Hitler is proving right for attacking Russia. Now it is NATOs turn to do the right thing.
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Don't you think that if assassination is on the table then it may encourage future CEOs to act ethically and just deny fraudulent claims and maybe let the doctors decide what is best for their patient? 
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As I said, Hamas would kill all Jews if they could. They are no different in intention from Hitler. So Hitler's intention isnt unique.

Even his action isnt unique.

Allies designed bombs which were specifically made to burn civilians alive inside their homes.

Stalin killed at least 7 million Ukrainians and has also killed plenty of his own people.

Mao killed 40 million of his.

Even after Hitler, there were plenty of mad leaders killing people.

Hitler is just much more mentioned, but in terms of kill count, he isnt number 1 in the century, and in history there were always crazy leaders who killed millions, one way or the other.
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No, I think it will cause them to hire private security and rates to go up. Every assassin wants a different thing, and they're not the kind of people you can negotiate with. This guy got caught, so CEOs don't care what he considers ethical.
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Don't you think that if assassination is on the table then it may encourage future CEOs to act ethically and just deny fraudulent claims and maybe let the doctors decide what is best for their patient? 
CEO will demand  a few more millions to pay for additional security.
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Another reason why I wouldnt kill baby Hitler is because Hitler caused significant changes in the world.

It is quite possible that if Hitler didnt exist, then I wouldnt exist either. Maybe my parents would never meet.

Its not worth it to risk my existence just to save few million Russians and Jews.
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Every assassin wants a different thing, and they're not the kind of people you can negotiate with.
It literally makes no sense to become an assassin unless there is a clear moral line you are enforcing due to the consequences of getting caught. 


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Yes, that's why abortion clinic bombings have successfully ended abortion. /s
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That's individual clinics and how those doctors make money. It had to be a very small amount of clinics and likely isolated to the Midwest. 

If  you assassinate the head of each cereal company that uses red dye 40 because of its negative effects on children, than one may step up and say. 

"You know what, poisoning children is not worth my life, maybe I choose to not be evil and I only use natural dyes if any at all since people enjoy natural food better anyway and leaving out the dye increases profit margins"
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No, they'll hire security. As soon as they do what the assassins want, there will be more assassinations.
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They really need to be eliminated then. If there response to be threatened for acts of evil is to double down and hire security. My response to being caught doing evil would be to be like

"Shit, maybe being evil has negative consequences, for now on when given a choice between evil and non evil actions, I will choose non evil"

What makes them decide to double down on evil when threatened as opposed to maybe going


" hey, we are going to implement a policy where instead of denying rightful claims, we approve them and only reject non rightful claims"
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You know this guy came from a wealthy background also so he has way more insight than me to how those kind of people are and he doesn't see them as anything other than evil. Guy is what a valedictorian and a computer science major. He probably has an IQ higher than anyone on this board which also means he is likely to have an easier time grasping reality and being logical. 
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By endorsing the shooter, you are willing to support violence to achieve universal healthcare.

Don't call yourself fiscally right wing; you're not.  That's fine if you're upfront with it; but then don't be agreeing with Trump on tax cuts for the rich (because that's what makes universal healthcare impossible).


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By endorsing the shooter, you are willing to support violence to achieve universal healthcare.
WTF no. The reason healthcare is like this is due to policies of FDR that had companies create insurance policies that insulated customers from the prices of medicine. 

I would support a more free market approach to fixing the issue. 
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The reason healthcare is like this is due to policies of FDR that had companies create insurance policies that insulated customers from the prices of medicine. 
  1. How would this make things worse for people (in 2024; 80 or so years after FDR was POTUS)?
  2. What bill did FDR sign that made this a reality?  He was the new deal guy.
I would support a more free market approach to fixing the issue. 
This will blow your mind, but a CEO works for the free market.  It's kindof the point.
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What bill did FDR sign that made this a reality? He was the new deal guy.
So he made caps on income and so employers to get talent for higher pay than the pay cap started offering insurance for free. 

  1. How would this make things worse for people (in 2024; 80 or so years after FDR was POTUS
My theory is that if you remove the source of a problem it goes away. So economic interventionism caused insurance to be normalized and for doctors to get rid of pro Bono work and sliding fees. 

If the cause of the problem is economic interventiomism than remove it and the problem should go away. 

Same with anything. If somebody is punching you in the face. Remove the guy and you stop getting punched in the face so problem solved. I call it root cause analysis. 

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This will blow your mind, but a CEO works for the free market. It's kindof the point.
Okay so in a capitalist country you would have less laws and regulations that impact what a company does but they would be forced to abide by the contract. You can't start a health insurance company to.lrrow but in a free market I could and then I could offer a better product and then treat my customer fairly and since the government does create regulations that block competition than we could compete and the better provider would win and less customers would be fuxked over
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So he made caps on income
He suggested $250k a year; but NBA players make millions, so that never happened.

My theory is that if you remove the source of a problem it goes away. So economic interventionism caused insurance to be normalized and for doctors to get rid of pro Bono work and sliding fees. 
That's not true; a doctor is allowed to treat you for free.

Okay so in a capitalist country you would have less laws and regulations that impact what a company does but they would be forced to abide by the contract.
They'll cheat their way with the contract; they got to maintain a profit margin; there is the risk they will sue; but it's unlikely since poor people can't sue.  I'd rather not get insurance unless it's free or very cheap.

 the government does create regulations that block competition than we could compete and the better provider would win and less customers would be fuxked over
the regulations make products better quality so we don't get sold snake oil (sometimes).  Regulations that reduce competition should be removed.
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That's not true; a doctor is allowed to treat you for free
Yes but after FDRs economic interventionism that stopped being the norm

He suggested $250k a year; but NBA players make millions, so that never happened.
So this is incorrect. In 1935 a much lower cap was in place and yes it was enforced until the end of the great depression 
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Yes but after FDRs economic interventionism that stopped being the norm
I'm not sure that's true.  Neither one of us were alive then.

So this is incorrect. In 1935 a much lower cap was in place and yes it was enforced until the end of the great depression 
Alright; so it's no longer a law now and therefore you can't blame FDR for 2024 economics.
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Alright; so it's no longer a law now and therefore you can't blame FDR for 2024 economics.
So I pointed out the cause of the problem correct?

Then I explained how removing the cause of a problem eliminates the problem correct?
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Sure, but the problem was removed for decades; whining about it is like BLM whining about slavery.
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By endorsing the shooter, you are willing to support violence to achieve universal healthcare.

Don't call yourself fiscally right wing; you're not.  That's fine if you're upfront with it; but then don't be agreeing with Trump on tax cuts for the rich (because that's what makes universal healthcare impossible).
There is a reason gun ownership is a second amendment right in America. Guns were used to settle issues like a civil war.
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Sure, you can be pro 2A; but I'm saying on the economy (which healthcare is a part of), to support a violent revolution to get universal healthcare is fiscally left wing thing.  

Don't call yourself fiscally right wing if you want government run healthcare.  It's not an insult; many people are fiscally left and that's fine; but be honest; that's all.
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Sure, you can be pro 2A; but I'm saying on the economy (which healthcare is a part of), to support a violent revolution to get universal healthcare is fiscally left wing thing.  

Don't call yourself fiscally right wing if you want government run healthcare.  It's not an insult; many people are fiscally left and that's fine; but be honest; that's all.
It is the Democrats pushing for universal healthcare care. Republicans like Trump are still trying to conceptualize healthcare.