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The Allopathic Complex and Its Consequences

luigi mangione's last words

The second amendment means I am my own chief executive and commander in chief of my own military. I authorize my own act of self-defense in response to a hostile entity making war on me and my family.

Nelson Mandela says no form of violence can be excused. Camus says it's all the same, whether you live or die or have a cup of coffee. MLK says violence never brings permanent peace. Gandhi says that non-violence is the mightiest power available to mankind.
That's who they tell you are heroes. That's who our revolutionaries are. Yet is that not capitalistic? Non-violence keeps the system working at full speed ahead.

What did it get us. Look in the mirror.
They want us to be non-violent, so that they can grow fat off the blood they take from us.
The only way out is through. Not all of us will make it. Each of us is our own chief executive. You have to decide what you will tolerate.

In Gladiator 1 Maximus cuts into the military tattoo that identifies him as part of the roman legion. His friend asks “Is that the sign of your god?” As Maximus carves deeper into his own flesh, as his own blood drips down his skin, Maximus smiles and nods yes. The tattoo represents the emperor, who is god. The god emperor has made himself part of Maximus's own flesh. The only way to destroy the emperor is to destroy himself. Maximus smiles through the pain because he knows it is worth it.
These might be my last words. I don’t know when they will come for me. I will resist them at any cost. That's why I smile through the pain.


They diagnosed my mother with severe neuropathy when she was forty-one years old. She said it started ten years before that with burning sensations in her feet and occasional sharp stabbing pains. At first the pain would last a few moments, then fade to tingling, then numbness, then fade to nothing a few days later.

The first time the pain came she ignored it. Then it came a couple times a year and she ignored it. Then every couple months. Then a couple times a month. Then a couple times a week. At that point by the time the tingling faded to numbness, the pain would start, and the discomfort was constant. At that point even going from the couch to the kitchen to make her own lunch became a major endeavor

She started with ibuprofen, until the stomach aches and acid reflux made her switch to acetaminophen. Then the headaches and barely sleeping made her switch back to ibuprofen.

The first doctor said it was psychosomatic. Nothing was wrong. She needed to relax, destress, sleep more.

The second doctor said it was a compressed nerve in her spine. She needed back surgery. It would cost $180,000. Recovery would be six months minimum before walking again. Twelve months for full potential recovery, and she would never lift more than ten pounds of weight again.

The third doctor performed a Nerve Conduction Study, Electromyography, MRI, and blood tests. Each test cost $800 to $1200. She hit the $6000 deductible of her UnitedHealthcare plan in October. Then the doctor went on vacation, and my mother wasn't able to resume tests until January when her deductible reset.

The tests showed severe neuropathy. The $180,000 surgery would have had no effect.
They prescribed opioids for the pain. At first the pain relief was worth the price of constant mental fog and constipation. She didn't tell me about that until later. All 1 remember is we took a trip for the first time in years, when she drove me to Monterey to go to the aquarium. I saw an otter in real life, swimming on its back. We left at 7am and listened to Green Day on the four-hour car ride. Over time, the opioids stopped working. They made her MORE sensitive to pain, and she felt withdrawal symptoms after just two or three hours.

Then gabapentin. By now the pain was so bad she couldn't exercise, which compounded the weight gain from the slowed metabolic rate and hormonal shifts. And it barely helped the pain, and made her so fatigued she would go an entire day without getting out of bed.
Then Corticosteroids. Which didn’t even work.
The pain was so bad I would hear my mother wake up in the night screaming in pain. I would run into her room, asking if she's OK.

Eventually I stopped getting up. She'd yell out anguished shrieks of wordless pain or the word “fuck” stretched and distended to its limits. I'd turn over and go back to sleep.
All of this while they bled us dry with follow-up appointment after follow-up appointment, specialist consultations, and more imagine scans. Each appointment promised to be fully covered, until the insurance claims were delayed and denied. Allopathic medicine did nothing to help my mother’s suffering. Yet it is the foundation of our entire society.
My mother told me that on a good day the nerve pain was like her legs were immersed in ice water. On a bad day it felt like her legs were clamped in a machine shop vice, screwed down to where the cranks stopped turning, then crushed further until her ankle bones splintered and cracked to accommodate the tightening clamp. She had more bad days than good.

My mother crawled to the bathroom on her hands and knees. I slept in the living room to create more distance from her cries in the night. I still woke up, and still went back to sleep.
Back then I thought there was nothing I could do.
The high copays made consistent treatment impossible. New treatments were denied as “not medically necessary.” Old treatments didn’t work, and still put us out for thousands of dollars. UnitedHealthcare limited specialist consultations to twice a year.
Then they refused to cover advanced imaging, which the specialists required for an appointment.
Prior authorizations took weeks, then months.
UnitedHealthcare constantly changed their claim filing procedure. They said my mother’s doctor needed to fax his notes. Then UnitedHealthcare said they did not save faxed patient correspondence, and required a hardcopy of the doctor's typed notes to be mailed. Then they said they never received the notes. They were unable to approve the claim until they had received and filed the notes.
They promised coverage, and broke their word to my mother.
With every delay, my anger surged. With every denial, I wanted to throw the doctor through the glass wall of their hospital waiting room.
But it wasn't them. It wasn't the doctors, the receptionists, administrators, pharmacists, imaging technicians, or anyone we ever met. It was UnitedHealthcare.

People are dying. Evil has become institutionalized. Corporations make billions of dollars off the pain, suffering, death, and anguished cries in the night of millions of Americans.

We entered into an agreement for healthcare with a legally binding contract that promised care commensurate with our insurance payments and medical needs. Then UnitedHealthcare changes the rules to suit their own profits. They think they make the rules, and think that because it’s legal that no one can punish them.
They think there's no one out there who will stop them.

Now my own chronic back pain wakes me in the night, screaming in pain. I sought out another type of healing that showed me the real antidote to what ails us.

I bide my time, saving the last of my strength to strike my final blows. All extractors must be forced to swallow the bitter pain they deal out to millions.

As our own chief executives, it's our obligation to make our own lives better. First and foremost, we must seek to improve our own circumstances and defend ourselves. As we do 50, our actions have ripple effects that can improve the lives of others.


Rules exist between two individuals, in a network that covers the entire earth. Some of these rules are written down. Some of these rules emerge from natural respect between two individuals. Some of these rules are defined in physical laws, like the properties of gravity, magnetism or the potential energy stored in the chemical bonds of potassium nitrate.
No single document better encapsulates the belief that all people are equal in fundamental worth and moral status and the frameworks for fostering collective well-being than the US constitution.
Writing a rule down makes it into a law. I don’t give a fuck about the law, Law means nothing. What does matter is following the guidance of our own logic and what we learn from those before us to maximize our own well-being, which will then maximize the well-being of our loved ones and community.

That's where UnitedHealthcare went wrong. They violated their contract with my mother, with me, and tens of millions of other Americans. This threat to my own health, my family's health, and the health of our country's people requires me to respond with an act of war.



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Here is a better formatted version if that one is hard to read

https://rentry.org/4duyfg5p
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This manifesto appeals to left and right and his name and actions were very meme worthy. I think you'll see him retain broad support. 
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He had to pay lots of money for things which didnt help at all. Someone got rich on his misfortune.

The main problem with healthcare system is that it makes more money if people are more sick, so it has a motivation to sell as much services as possible, even if not really needed. Its not possible to solve, because no matter how you run it, healthcare system has no any motivation to make all people healthy. That is simple truth.

Now, one can understand why he is angry, but he wont change anything. The system cannot be changed.
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If it's real, then maybe. I've seen a lot that suggests his mother isn't suffering from chronic pain, that his manifesto is shorter than this, and that his family is rich. On the other hand, I could easily see someone making a fake letter like this.
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It's too bad if it's true that he and his mom suffered,
But it does not 'justify his actions to me.

I think he is wrong, in his perspective, his blaming and his solution.
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That's where UnitedHealthcare went wrong. They violated their contract with my mother, with me, and tens of millions of other Americans. This threat to my own health, my family's health, and the health of our country's people requires me to respond with an act of war.
The same can happen with AI. Billions are being spent of AI and yet the country isn’t getting any smarter.
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The ceo implemented an AI that incorrectly denied 91% of claims. How is the CEO not responsible for that intentional murder program that killed thousands?
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I am not luigis mansion. I just posted his manifesto
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Source?
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I am not luigis mansion. I just posted his manifesto
You don’t look anything like him either.
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I just got the link from a random guy on discord but a lot of people are passing it around
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I just got the link from a random guy on discord but a lot of people are passing it around
It still doesn’t justify killing the Healthcare CEO.
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As I do not have your information, I must speak theoretically.
I'd prefer that such a company and CEO was addressed by the law, society, and government.
Revenge is a selfish motive, and self destructive, this shooter has harmed himself and his family, friends, social group. 'More than he has changed society.

Richard Chambers did not go around murdering can companies or people who littered,
He didn't murder Governor Tom McCall, when McCall initially squashed the bill.

The 'shooter has a personal, and I would argue 'warped view of the second amendment,
Has a lack of understanding of the 'motivations of nonviolence, as well as how well they function in some situations.

I'll admit Maximus's action can be interpreted different ways,
Suffice to say I have a different take than the shooter.

The shooter acknowledges how Rules permeate humanity,
Yet then disregards the Law and the implications of Law.
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Why do so many people claim they would kill baby Hitler but here is one of the most prolific serial killers in American history and people are saying "just vote against that gy continuing to murder, it seems effective"
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I don't recall ever saying I would kill baby Hitler.

But to answer your question, I think many do not view the Healthcare CEO as a serial killer.
Many do, but many do not.

We can't just kill business men or politicians we don't like.
Or who support laws and policies we find damaging, too many people on the Left and Right, might view the opposition that way.

I can understand a person killing adult Hitler, if a person was a aware of the 'literal killings of various groups in Germany during Hitlers reign.
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He had to pay lots of money for things which didnt help at all.
has a motivation to sell as much services as possible, even if not really needed
That sounds like a good reason for the insurance company to deny claims, if they're for services that don't help...
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Why do so many people claim they would kill baby Hitler
Because killing Hitler saves the people he would kill in the future, while killing a CEO means he will be replaced by another CEO. I think you can pretty easily call Hitler the "root cause" of the Holocaust, while all we can really be certain of is that the CEO was the face of the company and approved policies that killed a lot of people, hence bearing the blame for most of them while the board falls under much less scrutiny. A better comparison might even be killing the CEO as a child, if that retroactively prevents UHC from growing. At this point in his life, much of the damage had already been done. Also, Hitler started a war, which makes him a legitimate target for being shot per international law, while the CEO can only be legally punished through the court system.

And besides that, it's not "so many people" who were against the CEO being shot. Almost everyone is cheering for the shooter. As for the small amount who are against it, I suppose they'd rather live in a society where healthcare claims are denied than a society where healthcare claims are denied and assassinations are legitimized. If intentionally denying legitimate claims was a capital offense and the CEO was executed through the court system, that would be very different. I can't blame everyone else though, because not everyone has time to care about society and most would rather that someone responsible for a lot of deaths is punished regardless of how.
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Why do so many people claim they would kill baby Hitler
People say lots of stupid things. Hitler introduced animal rights in Germany. He probably saved billions of animals from pain. Not sure why people hate him.
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Because killing Hitler saves the people he would kill in the future, while killing a CEO means he will be replaced by another CEO. I think you can pretty easily call Hitler the "root cause" of the Holocaust, while all we can really be certain of is that the CEO was the face of the company and approved policies that killed a lot of people, hence bearing the blame for most of them while the board falls under much less scrutiny. A better comparison might even be killing the CEO as a child, if that retroactively prevents UHC from growing. At this point in his life, much of the damage had already been done. Also, Hitler started a war, which makes him a legitimate target for being shot per international law, while the CEO can only be legally punished through the court system. 

And besides that, it's not "so many people" who were against the CEO being shot. Almost everyone is cheering for the shooter. As for the small amount who are against it, I suppose they'd rather live in a society where healthcare claims are denied than a society where healthcare claims are denied and assassinations are legitimized. If intentionally denying legitimate claims was a capital offense and the CEO was executed through the court system, that would be very different. I can't blame everyone else though, because not everyone has time to care about society and most would rather that someone responsible for a lot of deaths is punished regardless of how.
Murderous is a crime. Cashing one’s stocks for profit is not a crime.Hitler committed atrocities as an adult not as a child. Killing him as a child would not have stopped the Holocaust. Someone else would have followed through with it.
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Hitler mostly killed Russians and Jews.
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Hitler mostly killed Russians and Jews.
They are the ones that resisted him the most.
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Killing him as a child would not have stopped the Holocaust. Someone else would have followed through with it.
It was his idea.
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Henry Ford wrote "The International Jew". 

Almost everyone hated Jews back then. They were banned from over 100 countries. They are not very popular today either. They are just more tolerated now.
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Prejudice is one thing. Throwing people into gas chambers is another.
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Killing him as a child would not have stopped the Holocaust. Someone else would have followed through with it.
It was his idea.
It was a global phenomenon.
The Holocaust affected people in every country in Europe, and in North Africa, and its legacy continues to be felt worldwide. A precise answer to the question is complicated by changes in national boundaries in Europe before, during and after WW2. Those killed in the Holocaust were mostly murdered in camps and ghettos located in Nazi-occupied Poland, or in shooting operations further east, in the Baltic states, and in the territory of the USSR (present-day Belarus, Ukraine and Russia). In addition, the Jewish communities of Romania, Croatia and Hungary were systematically persecuted and murdered by local forces, both under German command and independently. The victims, however, came from across Europe and from French possessions in North Africa, and could not have been identified, concentrated and transported without local help, or the cooperation of transnational railway networks. For example,  the Jews deported from Corfu in June 1944 travelled for nine days, passing through numerous local rail networks as they did so.
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Prejudice is one thing. Throwing people into gas chambers is another.
Prejudice is usually followed by violent acts. Its not random.
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It was a global phenomenon.
Yeah, caused by Hitler. The gas chambers were because of him.
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Prejudice is usually followed by violent acts. Its not random.
Hitler was uniquely insane, even among dictators. Mussolini killed Jews in the thousands. Hitler killed them in the millions.
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Hamas killed 1000 Jews in just one day. They would kill them all if they could. Hitler wasnt unique. You should see what Russians did to people in gulags, or what allies did to Japanese and German civilians. Violence was more popular back then. They just pretend now that Hitler was more evil than Russia to make themselves look better. Hitler cared for animal rights.