Is Identity Politics a Waste of Time?

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There is no reason to fight Hitlers and Putins. Just surrender.
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"We shall not fight against Hitler and lead Britain into another pointless war, but we shall retreat and let Hitler win. We shall always surrender." - GreyParrot as British minister in 1939.
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Lol, there will be nothing left of UK or Russia, or France, and Trump will be laughing all the way to McDonalds when he pulls out of the suicide pact called NATO.
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Save your servant, O Sustainer of Life,
From too early a death.
Free me of that affliction of believers
Who so easily become rigid of heart
In their journeys to you.
Make my heart like the green willow tree
That easily bends in the wind,
That bows gracefully before the storm
Only to raise its head again with renewed life
When the angry clouds have moved on.
Fill me this day, I pray,
With the strength of your Spirit,
The strength to be flexible and ever-green.
Create within me the heart
Of a disciple of life,
A heart that is gentle and meek.
Let me learn a lesson from your daughter water
Who seeks the lowest path,
Ever yielding and humble,
Yet wears down the strongest stones into sand.
In her I see the wisdom of the Tao:
The hard and strong will fall;
The soft and meek shall overcome.

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The meek and Trump will inherit the ashes of Russia. (and France)
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@Greyparrot
So you don't deny Kamala did a fake black accent to get identity votes
This is such a stupid criticism, but it's also very telling. When it comes to Trump we're talking about how he tried to overturn an election, how he plans to weaponize the government against his political foes, and how he's a fundamentally unserious person running for the most serious job on earth.

On the right you guys are talking about Kamala Harris's fake accent and the way she laughs.

Everytime you come out with this stupid criticism it's just a reminder of how little you actually have against her which serves as a reminder of how egregious the double standards were in this election. Everything she did mattered. Nothing he did mattered. That's why she lost, and yes, the voters are to blame for that. We are a country of idiots.
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It's not that faking a black accent for identity politics was exactly an "evil" thing.

It was only exposed in 2024 as being a dumb idea, along with identity politics. She fooled exactly zero black people, and probably pissed a few off.

You can't really call it "double standards" because Trumpmanbad never pretended to be a POC for votes.

Trump is stupid, but he just wasn't Kamala level stupid.
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Putin: Wants for USA to stop supporting its allies, so he could attack them.

Greyparrot: Wants for USA to stop supporting its allies.

Hello Putin.
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good, tell your buddy Putin to attack UK and France, or a country near them. I'll enjoy the ashes  of Russia. We can get Dick Cheney to head the cleanup crew.
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Why are you suddenly pretending to hate Russia? Nobody believes you.
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No, you showed me a way to start a nuclear war in EU where USA doesn't have to get involved. 300 IQ play.
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300 IQ play
You do need to have less than 100 IQ to think that Russia would ever start war with any nuclear power. Thats really low IQ lol

We already defeated Russia in Afghanistan when Russia invaded Afghanistan, and now we are beating them in Ukraine. Its simple, but stupid person still doesnt know.
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@Greyparrot
Trump is stupid, but he just wasn't Kamala level stupid.
You're right, because Kamala stupid is about 50 IQ points higher.

Remind me again how tariffs work? Who pays them?

So is Trump really so stupid that he still doesn't get how they work, or is he such a brazen liar that he would lie about something so basic and so easily checkable?

Regardless of which one you think it is, there is no example of anything remotely close to this coming from Harris, and for Trump this is barely noteworthy because it just fades into the background along with all the other egregiously stupid things he does and says.

The standards are not remotely similar.
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You're right, because Kamala stupid is about 50 IQ points higher.
Oh god, next you will be saying Kamala is smarter drunk rambling about why she can't pay her bills. The age of Destiny is over for the left. Probably forever.

Who pays them?
Nobody if there are no buyers.

I found it hilarious that with the same breath, NPR on Wednesday announced 'China pays nothing for the tariffs" while also reporting retaliatory actions. Which is it? China isn't negatively affected (pays for it) or China is. Pick one and stick with it.
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Yeah! I remember when Trump used a fake black accent to talk to black people....or was that Kamala doing that to be what ever she thought they wanted her to be?
My barber who is a black lady was telling me how her nieces voted for Trump, and I was like why is that? And she was like they thought she was fake with the different accents and not really black cause she did marry a white man. It was interesting
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They thought she was fake with the different accents and not really black cause she did marry a white man.
I didnt know person's race depends on who they marry.

I learn something new every day.

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You're right, because Kamala stupid is about 50 IQ points higher.
Oh god, next you will be saying Kamala is smarter drunk rambling about why she can't pay her bills. The age of Destiny is over for the left. Probably forever.
Yeah, that's what I thought. No response so you just retreat to you're usual pretending that you're on solid ground when you know you're not.

Who pays them?
Nobody if there are no buyers.
So there entire US economy is supposed to alter it's supply chain overnight? And Dodd it ever occur to you that if companies are buying things from another country instead of domestically that there is a reason for it?

I found it hilarious that with the same breath, NPR on Wednesday announced 'China pays nothing for the tariffs" while also reporting retaliatory actions. Which is it? China isn't negatively affected (pays for it) or China is. Pick one and stick with it.
My goods dude, you can't be this stupid. So why do you spend so many hours pretending?

Trump tarrifs will paid by us, not by China. Those tariffs will hurt China because many companies will find new domestic suppliers (which will probably be more expensive, thereby raising prices regardless), which means Chinese companies will lose business. So in return, they will probably place tariffs of their own to hurt our companies. The result will be a massive supply displacement which will wreak havoc throughout our economy.

This is why no one wins a trade war. If I have ham and you have bread, we're better off trading with eachother so that we can both have a sandwich. Trade benefits both parties, so putting a wrench in it hurts both parties. This is common sense.
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which means Chinese companies will lose business.
Oh, looks like China is paying (losing money) after all. Guess we can put that lie to rest.

 If I have ham and you have bread...
If the guy with bread is undermining your country, maybe you should get your bread from somewhere else. We spend trillions on national security, I am sure a slightly more expensive sandwich is doable and a drop in the bucket to further national security.

Like I said before, go short the market if you really feel this way. We will all celebrate your prosperity.

Trade benefits both parties, so putting a wrench in it hurts both parties. This is common sense.
Says the ethnocentric Destiny fan who never read basic history of the trade exploitation of China before they grew powerful enough to get revenge.


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The result will be a massive supply displacement which will wreak havoc throughout our economy.
We had far worse disruptions during Covid lockdowns precisely because we were too dependent on the goods from a rival nation.

The next supply disruption, manufactured or otherwise, may be much worse if we don't significantly increase our strategic supplies of critical goods necessary for the security of the nation. Yeah, it hurts to go cold turkey, but the security of a nation demands it. The world is a big place, and our friends are better suppliers than our enemies for the security of a nation.
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@Greyparrot
which means Chinese companies will lose business.
Oh, looks like China is paying (losing money) after all. Guess we can put that lie to rest.
Oh my god, there is no way you are this ignorant.

They're losing money because American companies will be getting their product elsewhere (eventually), which means American companies will themselves be paying more and passing that on to the consumer (us). That's what's called a lose lose. Do you understand? Did I go to fast for you?

If the guy with bread is undermining your country, maybe you should get your bread from somewhere else. We spend trillions on national security, I am sure a slightly more expensive sandwich is doable and a drop in the bucket to further national security.
This has nothing to do with national security. Nothing. This is 100% about Trump's ego combined with his breathtakingly ignorant understanding of basic economics.

Charging Americans a tax on all Chinese produced goods does absolutely nothing to make us more safe, that's just plain stupid. And Trump made this clear by his constant shifting of the reasons he gives for this. The tariffs themselves are the point plain and simple, because he thinks that makes him look strong. Everything else is just an excuse.

Says the ethnocentric Destiny fan
Never said I was a fan. This is what happens when you have nothing of intellectual value to offer; you scurry through every word looking for something to attack. It's pathetic.
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Trump tariffs on Chinese goods will increase the price of Trump bibles and Trump Maga hats. They are made in China. That is Trumps way of turning a bigger profit by taxing Chines imports.
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The next supply disruption, manufactured or otherwise, may be much worse if we don't significantly increase our strategic supplies of critical goods necessary for the security of the nation. Yeah, it hurts to go cold turkey, but the security of a nation demands it.
COVID was a literal once in a century pandemic.

Again, if we're trading we're doing it for a reason. No one trades for the mere fun of it. To alter our entire way of doing business just to secure us against an imaginary boogeyman that will probably never come again in our lifetimes is ridiculous. And even if there is another pandemic or global event it's not even clear what the benefit of keeping everything domestic would be. The supply chain disruptions were not just international, there was plenty of domestic disruptions as well so we would have experienced it either way.
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COVID was a literal once in a century pandemic. 

Again, if we're trading we're doing it for a reason. No one trades for the mere fun of it. To alter our entire way of doing business just to secure us against an imaginary boogeyman that will probably never come again in our lifetimes is ridiculous. And even if there is another pandemic or global event it's not even clear what the benefit of keeping everything domestic would be. The supply chain disruptions were not just international, there was plenty of domestic disruptions as well so we would have experienced it either way.
The reason America trades with China and other countries is because they produce goods that America needs cheaper and better than if they were produced locally.
Eg to assemble an Apple IPhone cost 7$ in China but will cost $100 in America. China makes things cheaper and better than American manufacturers.