Paper Mario Mafia Chapter 1 (DP1)

I  agree it is reasonable to suspect me.

I only say this because those who have voiced otherwise may be mafia since they can tell I am not one of them, but they want us all to think I am mafia so we're tricked.

I think me being so immediately open about my role is no longer a helpful tactic

Mharman, I also see you and your message and I will respond to it, but I also have the sudden desire for a midnight snack and need to run to Taco Bell before they close. I'll be back.

I think me being so immediately open about my role is no longer a helpful tactic

You weren't really open about it at all. Literally the only thing I know about your role is that you are a boss, like everyone else apparently, and have a role which is helpful to the town. Cool.

I  agree it is reasonable to suspect me.

Great, glad we had this conversation. But then, what was the point of bringing up that players that disagree may be mafia? Earlier, you said:

I only say this because those who have voiced otherwise may be mafia since they can tell I am not one of them, but they want us all to think I am mafia so we're tricked.

But now you're saying that it's actually reasonable to suspect you. So, what message exactly are you trying to convey? What point are you trying to make?

I gotta give him props for the plan, too. I OMGUSed Pie in Villainous Villains, and he saw it. So why not start with some terrible logic ("Mharman is less active than I expect")?

I agree that calling you out for inactivity when you hadn't said anything yet is a little bit weird, but he didn't say "Mharman is less active than I suspect." It's weird that you put that in quotes when he didn't say that. What he actually said was, "For someone who was being a little pushy about getting people to join, you sure haven't bothered to show up yet. By all means, come join the thread." Personally, I read his vote as being an activity vote first and foremost. What makes you so sure it was a reaction test?

Oops, I hadn't meant to say "role." I meant side/team.

I was hasty in thinking that what I said would be convincing in some way. I realize now I am a reasonable suspect 

I'm actually saying it's not a reaction test. I'm saying he's faking one. I gave a reason for that: I just don't see the need for him to be subtle about it. He can say outright he doesn't like something about me and it'd have the same effect. The subtlety is part of the plan. He can call it a test if he gets called out, and he can wait for someone else to make a case on me... which I think he was trying to condition someone to do.

Admittedly, I am aware he can spin one of my points back on me. I've also been hesitant to accuse until now, so what gives? Well, I was hesitant because I know if I counter-accuse, he's got what he wants. In a way, I'm giving him just that- except for the fact that someone else from town is starting to take a look at some of these things- you're kinda my hero for being the ice breaker. I'm gonna trust you.

I'm gonna be honest, it feels like you're trying to buddy me here really hard. I never said anything about Cerulean, yet you say that I'm "starting to take a look at some of these things". It's like you're trying to make me think your thoughts were actually my ideas, too, when... no, they were not.

I guess you a have a bit of a point here that it is merely a possibility, but I wouldn't count out the idea. What about his behavior looks legit to you?

He kept his vote one me? Why not say why? Wouldn't that still be good for a reaction test? To me, the subtlety just looks like he's hesitant to commit to saying anything. Like something self-preserving scum would do, whether they thought super hard about it, or its more subconscious/instinct.

I won't lie, though. I'm more inclined to believe it because it looks like a post one would make while working connection with... Cerulean!

Thoughts on what I said? About you and Cerulean.

So, noticing how he's accusing me (in the same post you called out) and how Cerulean seemed to be doing a similar subtle accusation in his reply to me earlier, I established a link in their behavior, meaning potential collusion.  The logic pipeline is essentially Cerulean -> Skipper for me.

As for now? His recent response to you about he understands your points is kinda pointing me in the direction of the former now; nonetheless I will acknowledge that your original case on him does have some points. I guess I'll say he's up in the air for me after that.

That's a much better point imo. On reread, that's the one thing I really don't like coming from Cerulean.

I feel similarly. Banana and Owen were both pretty clearly noob town in their first games. Skipper is clearly a noob, but he's not obviously noob town or noob scum, so I don't really know how to feel about him.

Also, Skipper, I since it looks like you're back online, I want to hear your thoughts on post #88 as well. What do you think?

 I'd still like to hear your thoughts on Cerulean, if you have any. Do you understand what Mharman is saying about him?

I think for the most part, I can't comprehend it. I lack understanding of certain terminology like "parroting" and "OMGUSing." I'm not very smart; I have to work hard to think smart. I feel like what Mharman says about Cerulean I can agree with, but I don't really know how to articulate that. My opinion is just intuition or emotionally-based 

I know Skipper already looks better than every noob I’ve ever seen and is probably capable of telling guys all we want to hear...

That was a stupid question on my part to ask if townies had their own chat, lol