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@Mharman
What the hell are you reading as a macho man bravado act?
Well for one the whole initial post where you linked the ja rule diss to cerulean for simply pressuring you for activity
I call this out 124, you respond by agreeing that you got too hype, but say you still have a case.
"And yeah, I was a little too hyped for the epic 1v1 lol… I should stop that shit and I see why Lunatic was put off by it, and yet, I still think I have somewhat of a case. Cerulean just doesn’t look right to me. At the very least, I’m gonna question some of the points in the defense"
You doubled down here so I was waiting to see why hoping to find some town motive.
Then the nail in the coffin was your push on barney, who said right away in the signups to only use him as a back up because his time was limited.
"I know he’s not been super active, but cmon man. I feel like what he’s posted is underwhelming, even for what I would expect. Recently all he did was update some list… he can update that but not say anything more about what he’s seeing? Even with his claims about how he’s generally less active DP1 because of how his mind works, I see almost nothing."
Barney feels like an easy target, and he responded exactly how I expected him to.
Crying about muh WIFOM does not invalidate said argument. This is mafia, a game where town and mafia alike constantly make arguments about who's what, based on behavior, including arguments about what someone would or wouldn't do as scum. No one reasonable is gonna handwaive away an argument because WIFOM. If we all did, there'd be no arguments to have at all.
Actually dismissing WIFOM as WIFOM is entirely valid. If you are scum here that all this whole thing is, is WIFOM isn't it? I WIFOM the sh1t out of people as scum. It's what you do. That said I outlined why the WIFOM should be specifically discredited, and you left that part out.
Ah yes, I'm scum and under high pressure. I have a really good fake claim that Earth has given me and could use to get out of this situation, but nah, I'll let my scum partner use it instead.
This is great insight into your head, and also proves whiteflames point a bit. You had a vote from me and whiteflame, and you proceeded to claim your ENTIRE role from it. Here you seem to acknowledge that you think this is high pressure. Interesting.
Ah yes, I'm scum and under high pressure. I have a really good fake claim that Earth has given me and could use to get out of this situation, but nah, I'll let my scum partner use it instead. Then, let me claim cop, watcher, doctor all at once, because I have the room temp required to fake claim three of the most common town roles as mafia. In Ace Attorney Mafia, you were tunneling me, and one of your arguments is that you have a lot of respect for my scum play. Here, you seem to think my scum play is troglodyte level. Which is it?
I have already told you I don't remember this game, and I also told you earlier in this game that my most recent memories of your play come from games I've modded of yours, so I've really only been able to examine you from a town confirmed lens. All of this behavior and read I have on you feels like new behavior I haven't seen which is why I am scum reading you. Like I said, I expect a more logical methodical mharman as town than the emotional wreck we are seeing now, who is twisting words, overreacting to pressure, and acting like being scum read is the end of the world.
But anyways if you made a mistake in fake claiming, it is most understandable to do so in dp1 early on before there are really any claims on the table. None of that is me saying you are bad or "trogolodyte level".
Notice how you said I figured one or two of the roles I claimed were safe. You haven't even brought yourself to say I'd think all three were safe! But I'm sure you can gaslight yourself into actually believing that sooner or later, based on what I've seen so far.
I said one or two because I know I am one of them, so for you to be scum an error had to be made insofar as you guessed or hoped that one of the three was safe. Not so hard to believe if you are scum especially after we are finding out the earth tends to not give out tons of power roles in 2/3 games we have seen of his so far.
The two quotes are just circular reasoning. I'm mafia, therefore I'm making a mistake in my claim. Because I'm making a mistake in my claim, it must be fake. Since my claim is fake, I must be mafia.
You keep conveniently forgetting the part where most games don't balance in two of the same role, especially in an earth game. The CC should be alone to make people suspicious of you in most contexts, but in this context its even greater.
Doesn't matter. You thinking her claim is legit should tell everyone reading this that there is no chance I'd be fakeclaiming like this as mafia, not under your logic.You'd have to believe I'd make such an unbelievably stupid claim, that can't even come from paranoia because I'd be scum and have some knowledge. Which is probably why you're arguing I'm fakeclaiming based on my scum roles... 1. As of right now, you won't even say I'd think all three were safe (subject to change, wouldn't be surprised lmao) 2. This based on me already being scum, so more circular reasoning. 3. Your role should tell you that scum probably has roles to counter you, meaning that I would see those roles and know not claim what I've claimed, because my scum roles would be designed to counter something I would conclude is in the game.
Your literally repeating WIFOM over and over again and I've responded to this. Again making a mistake as mafia in an early dp1 setting with no role information revealed doesn't mean you are a bad player, it means you took a calculated risk that didn't pay off. I do it all the time as scum. If it works, people think you are a genius. Thats what gambling as mafia is. Big risk big reward. Nothing to do with stupidity IMO, unless your just constantly yoloing plays like this without your partners consent.