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The Dream of Reason Produces Monsters | Jonathan Pageau 15 minutes, 1 second video.

I don't agree with everything that is said, but I 'do think reason can have difficulty in 'rooting a person.
Myself I keep repeating why? And keep finding myself unsettled,
Though of course being human, I loop around to familiar locations.
. . . Some people though, end up in fantastic locations, but I am unconvinced their locations rationally 'better.

I don't like to jump to Camus Absurdism, to Rebel for me, would be to surrender what I identify, however vaguely as myself, though Absurdism seeps in nonetheless at times.

I don't care for Existentialism arguments that we can create our 'own meaning in this world, for why then did I leave where I was before?
Only to replace it with some meaning logically as empty as the one before, but that it might appeal to some aspect of my self. It only partially does, and even what I had before could do that. Objective minded individuals (Some Religious) nonetheless approach existence subjectively.
Their interpretations and actions speaking their subjective experience and self created meaning,
For even when they feel the same Elephant, they have different descriptions, actions. Kindness or Cruelty the meaning they create in following their faith.
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The difference with Existential Meaning, is I feel all the more 'aware of it's 'Artifice, by my own hand no less.

Of what I have heard of Kierkegaard or Dostoevsky, I cannot leap either.
For my love of 'Apparent Truth,
Though no doubt I deny it within many breaths in the day,
Don't tell me how many bugs are in a candy bar, I need not that truth.
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So I stay an object at rest, or at motion, I am unsure.
Unable to rest/believe in Christianity, I am an Atheist, a Materialist,
I generally follow the law,
Am generally kind to family,
Polite to strangers,
Do not generally attempt harm,
Inquire of existence,
Laze about sloth,
Engage in gluttony and various vices,
Though mine I 'do consider dips of the toe into the pool of Hedonism, Hedonism nonetheless, I consider my contended awareness of eating normal meals.
It's the 'focus, that makes it Hedonism, the 'intention, in my mind.
. . . I still care about spoken values, vague notions of humanity, nation, and honor. Speak and feel of them.
. . . But is this path any more 'Objective, any more 'True for my being upon it?
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Were I a villain and a criminal, would I suddenly 'lack reasons?
I don't think so, like a Psychologist claiming 'reasons in one's childhood, as outcome for now,
There are so many 'reasons one is aware of, whether Before, During, Post Hoc, Unconsciously, Consciously,
And I am not a man who 'Knows his reasons in certainty.

No, Reason and Atheism did not bring me solid ground.
Though I turned away from God and towards greed, reasoned Nihilism, before I reasoned Atheism.

Cheshire Kitten (We're All Mad Here) By SJ Tucker
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Though It 'could just be me, and my being up for over 24 hours. . . 'Does discombobulate me a bit, loosen my inhibitions at times, when sleep deprivation does not weary, and one feels the manic haze.
. . . Not really 'healthy though, people say, sleep deprivation, but I 'did sleep a long time last time I slept.
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I don't 'know what Mall means,
But some people view a similarity between religion and science as high held values or guiding stars.

OH MY SCIENCE! - South Park 'Go God Go' Supercut

Though maybe Mall just means everyone has values that influence their actions.
. . . Imagine a world comprised only of Atheists,
I would think people would still vary in what they consider the 'right way to live life. The right state of affairs to promote.

An Atheist USSR might promote community over individuality,
An Atheist USA might promote individuality over community.

The state might not find itself removed from religion/organized belief/values.

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What do all the atheists here base your morality on?
Empathy and reason.
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The device is the new religion.
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Wait, I don't give it any money. Oh wait, yes I do.

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I am sorry to hear that Owen. If these people actually cared about you and your hereafter they would've attempted to reason you back into the faith and then let you go peacefully rather than push you away with insults and actively wishing that you go to hell. I sadly agree with your decision to hide given your experiences.

I disagree with some of the comments here that say atheism believes in science or that atheism bases its morality in empathy and reason. I think its incorrect to attribute atheism as something that encourages anything specific, morally or intellectually.
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Despite Christianity's talk of religious prosecution against them, atheists are the most hated group of people in the U.S, acording to Pew research center. 

I recently came out as an atheist to some people in my social web. I was thinking that nothing would really change. These people knew that I cared about morality, that I donated to charities and spent afternoons volunteering. 

It turned out, I was wrong. Not only that, but these people, (who I am somehow vastly more biblically literate than) had nothing but the most stupid arguments to defend their beliefs. Things like "you're just angry at god," and "Well now you're going to go to hell." There were also a lot of insults to my intelligence.

I'm not opposed to Christianity. I'm just shocked how hateful this community built around love is. 

The Christians on this stie are quite open minded and well versed on your beliefs. Can y'all please talk some sense into your peers. 

As much as it pains me, I'm going to keep lying about my faith to my friends in family. The disrespect and I have received from Christians is unbearable. 
Christians believe Jesus their God was rejected by Jews and crucified by Romans who did not believe in the divinity of Jesus. It is harder to accept 2 thousand years later the same ignorance exists.
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My point is proven.
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My point is proven.
It is easy to insult an atheist. They all live in a vacuum of denial.