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@Amber
I was going to leave this conversation because you aren't changing your mind, but you accused me of being a coward, so I have to respond now.

You don't even know what a true 'cult' even is. 
A cult is a group of people with a cult leader that they will not buck orthodoxy with him on anything (their cult leader is right wing media, which is highly influenced by Trump).  It's why you like RFK (because Charlie Kirk told you it would be a good idea).

Supporting conservative ideals 
What is the definition of a, "conservative ideal"?
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@<<<Amber>>>
I was going to leave this conversation because you aren't changing your mind, but you accused me of being a coward, so I have to respond now.
Oh, really? Where in my previous comment to wit you are replying to did I accuse you "of being a coward"?

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You will not change your mind no matter what I say because you are in a cult, so there is no point in continuing this conversation.

This conversation is over.
LOL!!!

You don't even know what a true 'cult' even is. 

Supporting conservative ideals and objective morality =/= being in a cult, you ignoramus. 

Yeah, tuck tail and run because you [know] I am right, and you cannot disprove/discredit anything I said. 
I fail to see the word "coward" anywhere in there.

You don't even know what a true 'cult' even is. 
A cult is a group of people with a cult leader that they will not buck orthodoxy with him on anything (their cult leader is right wing media, which is highly influenced by Trump).  It's why you like RFK (because Charlie Kirk told you it would be a good idea).
Where did I ever say I like RFK? 
I don't know enough about the man to like or dislike him.
I do not do anything Charlie Kirk or any other pundit says. I think for myself. I do my own research to verify the positions they put forth.

Also, that is not the definition of a legit "cult." This is: 

A cult is an organized group whose purpose is to dominate cult members through psychological manipulation and pressure strategies.1 Cults are usually headed by a powerful leader who isolates members from the rest of society.


Supporting conservative ideals 
What is the definition of a, "conservative ideal"?
Here are examples. 
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The 10 listed:

  1. There exists an enduring moral order. That order is made for man, and man is made for it: human nature is a constant, and moral truths are permanent.
  2. adheres to custom, convention, and continuity.
  3. believe in what may be called the principle of prescription.
  4. are guided by their principle of prudence. 
  5. pay attention to the principle of variety.
  6. are chastened by their principle of imperfectability.
  7. are persuaded that freedom and property are closely linked.
  8. uphold voluntary community, quite as they oppose involuntary collectivism. 
  9. perceives the need for prudent restraints upon power and upon human passions.
  10. understands that permanence and change must be recognized and reconciled in a vigorous society.

2 and 10 are contradictory. 

The conservatives don't believe in 8 on the undocumented; they'd rather be collectivist, "They murdered someone!  Deport them ALL!".

5 is an endorsement of variety (but they say, "Diversity is a strength", so they aren't consistent here).  

1 is vague.  What is the moral order?

4 is not consistent; they want to spend more on the military.

3 is inconsistent because the COVID vaccines were prescribed; but being anti COVID vax is mainly a conservative thing.

6 is inconsistent because the conservatives want perfection on a lot of things (ex: minimize government spending, no cocaine and crack).

7 is inconsistent; your body is property; conservatives want to ban abortion; most red states even banned recreational weed and nobody thinks smoking weed is murder.

9 is already the status quo; nobody is trying to change checks and balances (except for maybe Trump) and is either bipartisan at best or leftist at worst if Trump makes himslf King.  It's like saying, "the conservative party is against r@pe".  No shit; everybody is against r@pe.
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Trump isn't president yet, and world leaders are scrambling to end the wars already. Taliban wants peace. Hamas wants peace.

There's no greater good than that.
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@RemyBrown
You love Trump because of policy group A (which can encompass multiple policies or maybe just 1).  If Harris enacted everything in group A, then you would still hate her.
You mean if she legit became a Republican? No, I wouldn't hate her then. It'd be an exaggeration to say I "hate" her now. Even as the Democratic nominee she was not the kind of person who elicited that sort of visceral emotion. 

You hate Harris because of policy group B (which can encompass multiple policies or maybe just 1).  If Trump enacted everything in group B, then you would still love Trump.
If Trump became a Democrat? No, I'd have no reason to support him then. The only two issues where he's a (pre-2016, at least) Democrat are trade and foreign policy, and that's enough to make me shudder. If he was a Democrat on every single issue, you bet I wouldn't vote for him.

Was there supposed to be some point to this thread?