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You love Trump because of policy group A (which can encompass multiple policies or maybe just 1).  If Harris enacted everything in group A, then you would still hate her.

You hate Harris because of policy group B (which can encompass multiple policies or maybe just 1).  If Trump enacted everything in group B, then you would still love Trump.

You don't have any consistent moral worldview; you just follow a cult of personality.

If Trump did a rally in a Klan uniform and argued the Klan isn't racist; they just stand for their people; then you would simultaneously believe the KKK aren't racist while claiming the democrats are racist for getting endorsed by the KKK (allegedly).

If Harris defends legalized IVF; you call her a baby killer.  If Trump does it, you say he's pro family.

If Harris does inflation; you get angry at her over it.  If Trump does it, then you don't care.

Trump can give free gender surgeries to illegal immigrants in prison and you guys don't care (but would be outraged about it if Harris did it) (Did Trump offer medical care to transgender prisoners? | verifythis.com).  

You guys will criticize Trump for taking the vaccine, but that's only because he trashed it for so long.

You guys will wrap yourselves up in the 1st amendment until Trump calls for banning radical Islamic anti semitic speech, then you will say, "We got to ban hate speech" (only when it's Muslims; not white nationalists).

Your party is a fucking joke; it is a cult of personality, and it's why I left the GOP in August.

Good fucking riddance!  GOP = MAGA and I'm out.  I have TDS and I'm proud too have it.  If it offends the MAGA snowflakes on here, IDGAF!
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Another round of false premises? 

You know, asking questions and surveys are still useful.
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Everything I said was correct, but you're not changing your mind because you have a party to stick too and I've fucking given up.
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Everything I said was correct
Pretty sure most of America disagrees with those programmed premises. On both sides.
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Pretty sure most of America disagrees with those programmed premises. On both sides.
I'm going to tag some anti Trump people to see if you might be correct.  I doubt it.
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Election results matter. In 2020, a critical mass of MAGA voted against (or stayed home) because Trump didn't handle Covid well enough.

In 2024, a critical mass of BLUE NO MATTER WHO voted against or stayed home because Biden/Harris failed to handle inflation well enough.

Cults simply don't define the destiny of the country anymore. In fact, with the destruction of corporate propaganda, we may be seeing a steep decline of party cultism for the next few decades; now that fake corporate news is today considered a meme or a punch-line joke instead of controversial. We saw that when Colbert made an "Accidental" joke about CNN being fake news and his audience couldn't help laughing.
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 I have TDS and I'm proud too have it.  If it offends the MAGA snowflakes on here, IDGAF!
Well, you're IQ is over 130.
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Did you get PFP banned for porn? 
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Well, you're IQ is under 73.
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I guess you got PFP banned. I am sorry the mods took away that simple pleasure for you.
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I am also impressed your IQ is low enough for you to use the wrong form of the word "your" (twice in a row)

Very impressive. Not only porn addled, but also dyslexic. A great combo of disabilities and learning disorders.
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I just wanted to see if you would notice. OK, your IQ is 75.
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At least you are smarter than Trump.

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Yes, you have a porn problem. I am sad the mods put the cuffs on you.
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Why didn't he just run on the retarded platform you endorse and win all the votes from both sides then?
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Everything I said was correct, 
Uh, no dear, it was not. 
It was all factually inaccurate. 
Subjective opinions are not objective opinions.


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You hate Harris because of policy group B (which can encompass multiple policies or maybe just 1).  If Trump enacted everything in group B, then you would still love Trump.

I'm going to tag some anti Trump people to see if you might be correct.  I doubt it.
I think your premise is correct for some things, like foreign policy. If it was a Republican president funding Ukraine, you'd see more Republicans vocally supporting that.

But there are definitely policy positions Trump could take to alienate his base. If he says "we need open borders," "make vaccines mandatory," or "legalize all abortions" all day long, this will harm his support among conservatives. If he tries to ban all Christian worship services, and sticks to that position permanently, this will harm his support among conservatives. His creation of the vaccine didn't permanently alienate his base because he didn't insist on making them mandatory and moved on to other things (and many conservatives supported the vaccine).
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and it's why I left the GOP in August.
And went where?

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But there are definitely policy positions Trump could take to alienate his base. If he says "we need open borders," "make vaccines mandatory," or "legalize all abortions" all day long, this will harm his support among conservatives.
This is because he initially leaned into the opposite.  If Trump in 2020 won and advocated to make vaccienes mandatory initially, then the MAGA base will become pro mandate (especially if he ties unvaccination to blacks from Harlem).

The right's consistent ethos is intial and sufficiently leaned in Trumpism.  If Trump leaned into something initially and stuck with it sufficiently, then the MAGA world believes it.  Trump initially leaned into anti CSA beliefs; but it was a very short and brief time.  Trump has been pro vacciene, but only after he initally was anti COVID vax publicly for a long time.
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Uh, no dear, it was not. 
It was all factually inaccurate. 
Subjective opinions are not objective opinions.
State one claim that I made that was factually inaccurate.  If not, then you just said the statement to virtue signal to yourself and the people who already agree with you.

I believe every single person who liked my comment on this thread I disagree with massively a lot on other issues; but they know I'm correct here.
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If Trump in 2020 won and advocated to make vaccienes mandatory initially, then the MAGA base will become pro mandate
Some of them, maybe. If he had initially been pro all abortions though, he never would have become popular with Reps in the first place.
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If he had initially been pro all abortions though, he never would have become popular with Reps in the first place.
He was pro choice most of his life (and in 2015; most republicans hated Trump, so he had to at least say he was pro life to get republicans to back him).  In 2015, when Trump wasn't even winning a majority in the primary (out of Trump, Cruz, Kasich), Kasich was the economic conservative; Cruz was the religious conservative, and Trump was the nationalist conservative (which definitely did have racist members in it as well as young conservatives who vote for whatever feels good and military people), and Trump was able to win the primary because Kasich didn't drop out and endorse Cruz.  Maybe 20% of the country votes in the GOP primary; 40% of which supported Trump; and 25% of them are genuine racists; 2% of the country.  But the cult grew; and at this point, the people that like Trump I think are almost entirely either genine racists (10% roughy) or vibesters (they aren't too political; but they like the way Trump makes them feel) (>85%).

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Trump was able to win the primary
He was able to win because he shifted to the right. If he came in and ran as "ultra pro-choice guy," Reps wouldn't like him. If he changed to "ultra pro-choice guy" now, Reps wouldn't like him. That's a pretty important issue for the Republican base. Same as with Biden shifting his position on Roe.
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 If he came in and ran as "ultra pro-choice guy," Reps wouldn't like him. If he changed to "ultra pro-choice guy" now, Reps wouldn't like him. 
No; they would probably see it as attempting to posture to the left.
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So many folks are mad right now.

By the way, all in the states will have to be MAGA supporters.
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Uh, no dear, it was not. It was all factually inaccurate. Subjective opinions are not objective opinions.
State one claim that I made that was factually inaccurate.  If not, then you just said the statement to virtue signal to yourself and the people who already agree with you.

I believe every single person who liked my comment on this thread I disagree with massively a lot on other issues; but they know I'm correct here.
Ok.

You love Trump because of policy group A (which can encompass multiple policies or maybe just 1).  If Harris enacted everything in group A, then you would still hate her.

You hate Harris because of policy group B (which can encompass multiple policies or maybe just 1).  If Trump enacted everything in group B, then you would still love Trump.

You don't have any consistent moral worldview; you just follow a cult of personality.
When you begin on a false premise, your conclusion is equally false. 

If Trump did a rally in a Klan uniform and argued the Klan isn't racist; they just stand for their people; then you would simultaneously believe the KKK aren't racist while claiming the democrats are racist for getting endorsed by the KKK (allegedly).
If if if if....what if, patent logical fallacy.

If Harris defends legalized IVF; you call her a baby killer.  If Trump does it, you say he's pro family.
If if if if....what if, patent logical fallacy.

If Harris does inflation; you get angry at her over it.  If Trump does it, then you don't care.
If if if if....what if, patent logical fallacy.

Trump can give free gender surgeries to illegal immigrants in prison and you guys don't care (but would be outraged about it if Harris did it) (Did Trump offer medical care to transgender prisoners? | verifythis.com).  
Taken out of context. 

You guys will criticize Trump for taking the vaccine, but that's only because he trashed it for so long.
I have  no knowledge if he did or did not take the ACTUAL so-called vaccine. 

You guys will wrap yourselves up in the 1st amendment until Trump calls for banning radical Islamic anti semitic speech, then you will say, "We got to ban hate speech" (only when it's Muslims; not white nationalists).
Non Sequitur

Your party is a fucking joke; it is a cult of personality, and it's why I left the GOP in August.
Psychological projection.

Good fucking riddance!  GOP = MAGA and I'm out.  I have TDS and I'm proud too have it.  If it offends the MAGA snowflakes on here, IDGAF!

At least you can admit you are a bonafide and certifiable DUMBASS with TDS. 


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When you begin on a false premise, your conclusion is equally false. 
The premise is true.

If if if if....what if, patent logical fallacy.
False; I took logic as a class; I know.

Taken out of context. 
That's always the excuse.  You don't state how it was out of context; but it totally had 100% of the context it needed and if this was Harris, then you would be calling her far left.

I have  no knowledge if he did or did not take the ACTUAL so-called vaccine. 
Look it up.

Your party is a fucking joke; it is a cult of personality, and it's why I left the GOP in August.
Psychological projection.
I'm not in a cult; I disagree with Harris plenty (I even disagree with Chase Oliver plenty and I voted for him).

At least you can admit you are a bonafide and certifiable DUMBASS with TDS. 
By your dumbass standards, yes; I am a dumbass by the same way Einstein appears to be dumb by people who don't know physics.  "Only a fool rants about E=MC^2".

I get likes on most of my posts and you don't.  Who's the genuine dumbass?
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When you begin on a false premise, your conclusion is equally false. 
The premise is true.

 No, it is not. Not even close. 

If if if if....what if, patent logical fallacy.
False; I took logic as a class; I know.
Oh, you're so special. You took a "class." LOL!!!

Taken out of context. 
That's always the excuse.  You don't state how it was out of context; but it totally had 100% of the context it needed and if this was Harris, then you would be calling her far left.
The out of context is patently obvious, and requries no explanation. Twit. 

I have  no knowledge if he did or did not take the ACTUAL so-called vaccine. 
Look it up.
Burden of proof is on you, dunce.

Your party is a fucking joke; it is a cult of personality, and it's why I left the GOP in August.
Psychological projection.
I'm not in a cult; I disagree with Harris plenty (I even disagree with Chase Oliver plenty and I voted for him).
Chase Oliver, who?

At least you can admit you are a bonafide and certifiable DUMBASS with TDS. 
By your dumbass standards, yes; I am a dumbass by the same way Einstein appears to be dumb by people who don't know physics.  "Only a fool rants about E=MC^2".
Thanks for proving my point. 

LOL!!!

I get likes on most of my posts and you don't.  Who's the genuine dumbass?

I don't give a SHIT how many likes you get.
This is not a popularity contest, little girl.
It is a debate website. fuctkard. 

I don't measure my successful proffered positions by likes. Proves you are nothing but a child 
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You will not change your mind no matter what I say because you are in a cult, so there is no point in continuing this conversation.

This conversation is over.
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You will not change your mind no matter what I say because you are in a cult, so there is no point in continuing this conversation.

This conversation is over.
LOL!!!

You don't even know what a true 'cult' even is. 

Supporting conservative ideals and objective morality =/= being in a cult, you ignoramus. 

Yeah, tuck tail and run because you [know] I am right, and you cannot disprove/discredit anything I said.