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@Vader
Okay, I'll grant that my questions were a little bit fluffy. (Though even then, I don't think #19 was really that fluffy, and neither was #53.) I just didn't feel like they were vague, that's all.
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@Mharman
Can you tell me more about your thoughts on the others?
I am not as good as I once was so don't expect much out of me but the following people feel like town and usually I scum hunt better by POE than by actual scum reads

Town

1. Mharman
2. Wylted
3. Casey
4. Banananannananna
5. Whiteflame
6. Vader


I think that's about it. I am willing to lynch outside of that list and that's all unless I missed somebody
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The list is by strength of read. Vader and whiteflame are only slight town and mharman is most town, Wylted is slightly less town than mharmam
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@iamanabanana
Activity pressure =/= scum reading

Pushing people to be active by getting them to claim makes it so that since they are inactive, they will have a harder time thinking of a claim if they are scum. If they aren't active, then you lynch dead weight. Scum reading for activity is scummy and anti town. And Pie's basis for voting you is not just because he voted you. 
You are making a lot of assumptions about his vote, when he actually just voted you then dis-appeared. His behavior is 100% hypocritical. Him posting now does not erase the fact that he was bored and dis-interested when he was mafia a couple games ago, and seemed to be bored and dis-interested here, my original basis for scum reading him doesn't go away because he decided to be active in the last 24 hours of the day phase.
Can people not have a life outside of mafia lol? This point quite literally has 0 merit
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@WyIted
??? Why am I more towny than you in your own book lol. I'm happy that everyone recognizes me as town, but my brother in Christ, you got mod confirmation of yourself.
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@WyIted
The claim is easy to test though. It just involves them reporting on the previous jights actions and seeing if it lines up with reality
I mean yeah but it could be easily faked and in a Luna game, there are a lot of twists that give mafia some extra insight into the game that can deceive town
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@WyIted
Is this just how you'd read yourself from an outside perspective?
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@Lunatic
Can we get a vote count/ time check?
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@Mharman
I don't mind a Pie push honestly. I don't think this is a 1v1 situation, but I wouldn't hate to hear Pie's claim. 

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Claim  push to be specific
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My town bloc is Banana, Moozer, Wylted, and Vader. In that order, as long as Banana isn't counter-claimed.

I do think there's two scum between Pie, Whiteflame, Owen and Casey. 
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@Mharman
you got mod confirmation of yourself.
So you are assuming I looked at my PM?

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Okay so I did look at my PM but i considered not doing it
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Okay, here’s where I’m at. I think Banana is town, just going to come right out with it. I haven’t seen any crazy weird behavioral things, and she’s unCCed as “welcome to the internet” which from what I can tell is one of Bo’s most famous songs, so I’d expect that to be in the game. 

Beyond that even, the investigative role seals it for me. I sus Pie a little now for still wanting to pursue a Banana lynch, so I’m willing to hammer on him if need be, is he still at L-2?

I’m not sure what to make of Casey’s repeated insistence on the fact that we should lynch them, it could go either way for me, but if I had to pick it seems scummy to me. 

Once again, I’m going to be half-online so Ping me if I need to hammer!
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@Mharman
Thought I will say, I have a slight town read on Pie. I feel like his kind of relentless pressure reads a bit more into his town play rather than his scum play. Plus I feel like if he was scum would've said/done something as scum when he was with gf to not draw the inactivity off him. Idk this is just a gut feeling for that part.


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Neither of you are opposed to it, and Banana wants it. I told her her full claim saved her, so a deal's a deal to her.

VTL Pie

Your turn.
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So I will be up in time tomorrow to vote for whoever is closer to getting lynched and as long as they don't fall into my town list I am good doing it. 
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So just for the record. There is no theme split which means scum doesn't need to fake claim characters. 
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@Moozer325
I’m not sure what to make of Casey’s repeated insistence on the fact that we should lynch them, it could go either way for me, but if I had to pick it seems scummy to me.
Respectfully, why? Sure, it could be a scum gambit of mine, but it would also be a very risky one on my part. Losing one partner in a 2v7 to the DP1 lynch is about the worst thing that can happen to a scum team. I know; I've seen it happen before. Remember US Presidential Elections Mafia?
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@iamanabanana
I am "welcome to the internet". 

I am a reporter, because the internet gives us a little bit of everything all of the time, and we have the whole world of information at our fingertips. Each night I can select a player and I will be told if they acted at night or not. 

I want pie to claim next.
I don’t like the claim. But I’m willing to give the benefit of the doubt since it’s a PR.

I’m “From God’s Perspective”
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@Vader
Thought I will say, I have a slight town read on Pie. I feel like his kind of relentless pressure reads a bit more into his town play rather than his scum play. Plus I feel like if he was scum would've said/done something as scum when he was with gf to not draw the inactivity off him. Idk this is just a gut feeling for that part.
I don't really agree with either of these points. If he's dedicated to the girl enough to not post a morsel as town, I don't think he'd do it as scum. As for relentless pressure, no. Pie is bold and will fight tooth and nail for mislynches and blame the mislynch on Banana's town idiocy the next DP. It's very common for scum to use TIs like this and I know Pie has done it before.
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@Mharman
I think Owen should be considered. I know he wants to avoid being the info lynch but he hasn't added any value to the town side. It just seems like lazy town play and buddying off of Pie's logic without a care or hesitation to it. 
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Can we get a vote count/ time check?
Might be a while sorry. Was trying to do it on my phone and I lost track. when im at a computer I’ll update it.

As for time, 12.5 hours remain.
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Thought I will say, I have a slight town read on Pie. I feel like his kind of relentless pressure reads a bit more into his town play rather than his scum play. Plus I feel like if he was scum would've said/done something as scum when he was with gf to not draw the inactivity off him. Idk this is just a gut feeling for that part.
I don't really agree with either of these points. If he's dedicated to the girl enough to not post a morsel as town, I don't think he'd do it as scum.
I am going to agree to disagree here and I don't feel there's a point to debate this further since this is loose gut subjective based reasoning
As for relentless pressure, no. Pie is bold and will fight tooth and nail for mislynches and blame the mislynch on Banana's town idiocy the next DP. It's very common for scum to use TIs like this and I know Pie has done it before.
I'd agree if this was in DP2-3. But in DP1 I can't say I've seen him use the meta

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@Casey_Risk
Like I said, it could go either way IMO. You could be genuine, or you’re doing some sort of WIFOM thing. It doesn’t seem like the riskiest scum strategy, and since you’re already in the scum pool, I could see you playing a gambit with nothing to lose.
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@WyIted
I learned this teaching some female poker players how to be profitable. They use their emotions to their advantage not try to blunt them and being emotional, even if it's perceived as aggression is something I personally welcome. 
It’s cause it works against other women. Men don’t care. It’s why Men are voting Trump and Women are voting Kamala
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@Vader
I don't love banana's claim but I am willing to keep banana alive to see it through. I will say it's not a strong claim and tbh I think I may have used it as scum one time, or was considering using it
I think Casey used it a couple games back
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Also Banana claimed a song that is very popular and huge. I want to state this, THIS IS NOT AFFILIATION INDICATIVE. It makes even more sense when there isn't a theme split
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I don’t like the claim. But I’m willing to give the benefit of the doubt since it’s a PR.

I’m “From God’s Perspective”
Now this is a puzzle. I'll hold off on asking for a full claim for a few minutes because I do need to think about the alarm bells this is ringing for me.

To the people I townread: You picking up what I'm putting down, guys?
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@iamanabanana
You are making a lot of assumptions about his vote, when he actually just voted you then dis-appeared.
I was with my girl 250 miles away in another city.

His behavior is 100% hypocritical. Him posting now does not erase the fact that he was bored and dis-interested when he was mafia a couple games ago,
Again, that’s just false. I didn’t say anything DP2 because I was faking being silenced. DP3 I was outted scum, so no point in talking. I was following the game even then, as Cerulean said in endgame.

and seemed to be bored and dis-interested here, my original basis for scum reading him doesn't go away because he decided to be active in the last 24 hours of the day phase.
This is just laughable