Hillary Clinton weighs in on second assassination...

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He has proven this time around he is not for deregulation of the economy
he never was. The fact that you think that proves you believe lies. 

is not for getting the government out of our health decisions
again, he never was. 

not for many of the other freedom-minded things he ran on in 2016
lol, his platform was almost literally all lies. the only things from his platform he actually did was tax cuts for the rich and racism/xenophobia.

Harris is simply more fascistic than Trump, so I will be choosing Trump.
how do you figure that? Trump has literally said he would be a dictator on day one. He wants to take away people's rights. He wants to use the justice department as a weapon against his enemies. He wants pack every department with sycophantic loyalists who will do anything he says without question. He tried to overturn the results of the 2020 election after he lost, and when that failed he riled up a mob to attack the capitol. I  can keep going, but hopefully you are getting the point. I'm not sure there has ever been a candidate for president more fascistic that trump. 

he answer to expensive grocerie store prices is to lower the corporate tax rate, gas taxes, and other taxes, remove federal subsidies to food which pick winners and losers in the marketplace,
lol seriously? They didn't raise prices because of taxes. They are making record profits. The issue isn't that their costs went up so they passed it on to their customers. The issue is they wanted your money, so they raised prices. Tax cuts are just another giveaway to the rich. 

and deregulate the economy, making it easier for other grocery stores to start up to compete and the competition will drive prices down for all people.
competition isn't lacking due to regulation. It is lacking due to capitalism. Bigger chains buy up smaller ones and drive them out of business. The government isn't preventing you from opening a grocery store. But I guarantee you if you tried one of those big chains would try to crush you if they perceived you to be a threat to them. The solution to multi-national conglomerates crushing competition is not cutting regulations. that just makes their anti-competitive ass hattery even easier. The answer is more regulation and breaking up their monopolistic practices. 

Grocery stores are not gouging anyone. They have had 2 straight years of shrinking profit margins. If they were gouging prices then they would have rising profit margins.
have you looked into their suppliers? I don't have the stats in front of me at the moment, but a huge percentage of the meat market in the US is controlled by 2 or 3 companies. Ditto for many other types of food. 

The reality is this economy is in the toilet and these companies are likely on the verge of bankruptency
lol what delusions are you living in. The economy is literally bigger than it has ever been. It is going vastly better than when trump was president.

In short, government has caused the terrible situation we are in, so more government will make it worse.
lol no. That's like saying "he's having a drug overdose, so Narcan will only make it worse". Even if it were true the problem is caused by government policy, which it isn't, your argument still wouldn't make sense. 

Shitty republican policies cause problems and allow companies to do terrible things. Your "solution" is to allow companies to do whatever they want, thus intensifying the shitty behavior. 
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He never was. The fact that you think that proves you believe lies.

Executive order 13771...

his platform was almost literally all lies.

  • Build a border wall - he built hundreds of miles of border wall
  • Mass deportations - his deportation policy was so stringent that illegal immigration plummeted
  • Repeal Roe v Wade - the SCOTUS ruling from Trump SCOTUS picks accomplished this.
  • Deregulate the economy - Executive order 13771
  • Leave the Paris Climate Accord - we left it
  • Drill more oil - America became energy independent and a net exporter of energy for the first time in decades.
  • Tax cuts - everyone under Trump except the upper middle class got a tax break. Only the upper middle class had a worse tax situation
I could go on and on. He DID keep his campaign promises.

Trump has literally said he would be a dictator on day one.

No. He said:

"He says, 'You're not gonna be a dictator, are you?' I said no, no, no … other than Day One. We're closing the border and we're drilling, drilling, drilling. After that, I'm not a dictator, OK?"

It was clearly not what you say it is. Even snopes said Trump didn't actually claim he was going to be a dictator. What kind of dictator says after he accomplishes just 2 things he will relinquish his dictatorship? Come on now.

They didn't raise prices because of taxes. They are making record profits.
Commpetition isn't lacking due to regulation

  • In Maryland you must have EZPass on your car or else you are cited as a lawbreaker for not using it.
  • The amount of healthcare providers available in each state has declined by 66% as a response to sweeping healthcare regulations from the Obamacare Act and subsequent continuing regulations under both Biden and Trump.
  • Automakers had to stop making whole car lines to meet absurd CAFE fuel regulations. Ford lost tens of thousands of dollars per EV to meet the quotas of California's no-gas-powered-cars-in-the-future law.
  • The Inflation Reduction Act gave construction contracts only to certain companies in every state and made useless construction projects that were not needed.
  • SpaceX became the monopoly in space flight due to $400 billion dollars' worth of government grants.
Governments always create monopolies. It is why the government exists: to steal from the poor and give to the rich. Some of the rich use government as a club to beat others into submission and destroy their enemies. Take away the club, and the rich no longer have their power. It is easy to be rich when you hold an AK-47 toward your customers in a gun-free zone and tell them to buy. That is what government is: an AK-47 trained on American citizens held in the hands of the rich. I say get rid of the AK-47, and, like magic, you are no longer forced to buy only certain products and can even make your own and sell them and join in on the fun.

I'm not sure there has ever been a candidate for president more fascistic that trump.

Kamala Harris will implement price controls, ramp up investigating the political opposition, continue locking up political prisoners who were not charged of any crime yet are rotting away in jail over J6, use the government to force companies out of business, control Americans' health decisions, and continue the tariffs Biden and Trump put in place. She will also control what we learn about in school, will censor the media and social media posts, and this is just scratching the surface of what she wants to do. You really should read about Mussolini and Italy under his fascist regime. He has much more in common with Kamala Harris than Donald Trump, though Donald Trump has strong fascist tendencies as well.

The solution to multi-national conglomerates crushing competition is not cutting regulations. that just makes their anti-competitive ass hattery even easier.

I would like to formally debate you on this topic. I believe, and the vast experience of virtually every country that has ever existed shows, that regulations always lead to inflation, stagnation of innovation, shortages, poverty, and, ultimately, the total default of a country's economy.


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Executive order 13771
lol that was the most childish and stupid order ever. That's like saying if you want to pass a law making murder illegal, you have to make rape and robbery legal. It's just asinine pandering to stupid people. 

  • Build a border wall - he built hundreds of miles of border wall
No, not really. the vast, vast majority of the "wall" built during his presidency was replacing existing fencing built by previous administrations. He built a total of 84 miles of new fencing where there had been none before. 47 miles of primary wall, and 33 miles of secondary wall built to reinforce the initial barrier. So if you're talking about areas that now have a fence where before there was none, the grand total is 47 miles. Many presidents have built more than that. 

  • Mass deportations - his deportation policy was so stringent that illegal immigration plummeted
Trump deported an average of 500,000 per year. Biden deported 740,000 in 2023. 

  • Repeal Roe v Wade - the SCOTUS ruling from Trump SCOTUS picks accomplished this.
this was a horrible thing that is MASSIVELY unpopular. It will be an albatross around the republicans necks for years. 

  • Leave the Paris Climate Accord - we left it
lol and? The US rejoined it a couple years later. all that did was show the world that the US was unreliable and couldn't be trusted to keep it's word. 

  • Drill more oil - America became energy independent and a net exporter of energy for the first time in decades.
US oil production was on the rise before Trump. It is on the rise after he left office. 2022 and 2023 were years of record oil production in the US. 

  • Tax cuts - everyone under Trump except the upper middle class got a tax break. Only the upper middle class had a worse tax situation
two things here. 1) trump was running record deficits. He was borrowing money for those tax cuts. The party of fiscal conservatism should be appalled by this. 
2) the tax cuts for the rich were permanent. The tax cuts for everyone else were temporary and expire soon. The point was the tax cuts for the rich. The threw in temporary tax cuts for everyone else just so that poor people wouldn't get mad about him protecting the rich. 


I could go on and on. He DID keep his campaign promises.
please do go on. I would be happy to prove to you why he didn't do the things you think he did or why there were objectively terrible. 

It was clearly not what you say it is. 
lol, he was asked "are you going to be dictator" his answer was "no, other than on day one". That answer means I will be a dictator on day one. thus proving my statement true.

Not true:
cargill, the 3rd largest beef processor in the US was running record profits until 2023. They have dropped a little bit due to supply issues since then. 

  • In Maryland you must have EZPass on your car or else you are cited as a lawbreaker for not using it.
I had to look up what this was. My quick search tells me it is a method to pay tolls for roads. My answer would be that this is just a symptom of shitty policy. IE why are there tolls? A public road system shouldn't use them. Therefore they wouldn't need any policy on collecting them. It's right wing policy that is the source of the issue. 

  • The amount of healthcare providers available in each state has declined by 66% as a response to sweeping healthcare regulations from the Obamacare Act and subsequent continuing regulations under both Biden and Trump.
I will need a source for this one. Your claim is vague enough that it's hard to see what you're talking about. For all I know it could be that 66% of healthcare providers failed basic safety standards and got shut down. In which case it would be a good thing. Your stat alone means nothing. 

  • Automakers had to stop making whole car lines to meet absurd CAFE fuel regulations.
I would need you to be more specific. Why would you want inefficient cars to be made? what made the regulations absurd?

Ford lost tens of thousands of dollars per EV to meet the quotas of California's no-gas-powered-cars-in-the-future law.
Again, you will need to be more specific. I'm not sure what specifically you are referring to. 

The Inflation Reduction Act gave construction contracts only to certain companies in every state 
that's how contracts work. is the expectation that all companies should get contracts? 

and made useless construction projects that were not needed.
like what?

  • SpaceX became the monopoly in space flight due to $400 billion dollars' worth of government grants.
they've had that for years. The US government heavily defunded NASA and the space program. Republicans do love privatization so i'm surprised you think that's a problem. 

Governments always create monopolies.
you misspelled capitalism. All capitalists want a monopoly. The only way this is prevented in the long term is with government regulation. If the government doesn't step in, then the big fish eat the little fish until there are only big fish left. 

It is why the government exists: to steal from the poor and give to the rich.
again, you misspelled capitolism. The goal of capitolism is to maximize the money of the rich. One of the main ways they do that is by extracting as much wealth and labor from the poor as possible. Look up what the lives of workers were like before labor laws were passed to protect people. 

Take away the club, and the rich no longer have their power. 
lol no. the power of the rich is their money. They use that money to buy weapons, like the government. If you remove the power of the government then you limit their ability to use it to their advantage. but it is literally the only thing that is capable of keeping the rich in check. Without it, the people are powerless to stop the rich from trampling them. 

Kamala Harris will implement price controls
this is an extremely popular position. and lots of governments have done that. It is not a fascist policy. 

ramp up investigating the political opposition
1) I don't recall her saying that. 
2) republicans commit crimes all the time. Matt gaetz sex trafficked children. Trump has committed god only knows how many felonies, hundreds. Policians are very rarely actually held to account for their crimes. Literally any investigation of politicians would be "ramping up". 

 continue locking up political prisoners who were not charged of any crime yet are rotting away in jail over J6
What are you even talking about? Anyone who entered the capitol on J6 is a criminal. I would argue they are also a traitor. Saying they are "political prisoners" is a really bad joke. 

use the government to force companies out of business
this is just an outright lie. 

control Americans' health decisions
nope, that's just the republicans. they are the ones pushing to ban healthcare choices. 

and continue the tariffs Biden and Trump put in place
wait, you think she's a fascist because she might continue policies trump started? do you not see the irony of that?

She will also control what we learn about in school
again, that's the republicans. They are constantly trying ban books and pass laws controlling what children are taught. 

will censor the media and social media posts
1) when did she say that?
2) trump is constantly saying he wants to censor the media. He says news outlets should be shut down when they say things he doesn't like. 

that regulations always lead to inflation, stagnation of innovation, shortages, poverty, and, ultimately, the total default of a country's economy.
ok, so you're a libertarian then. Real question, are you a sociopath? My understanding is that most libertarians are.