Hillary Clinton weighs in on second assassination...

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Trump cut his own ear with his fingernail when the shooter shot the guy Trump paid him for. Trump paid the other person to drop off a 2 bags and a rifle at the fence
then he had his people tell the FBI to shoot and kill him, but they missed. Don't worry, Trump will be paying a lot more people for fake assassination attempts.
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Killary once again... ROFL.
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I agree with what the highly intelligent ebuc just posted on another topic.

Republicans are based in falsehoods and evangelical { Biblical }, illogical, lack of common sense critical thinking, for the most part.
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Yes, you can't spell Killary without kill.
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Don't worry, Trump will be paying a lot more people for fake assassination attempts.
Only in a Kamala economy would people take up those "jobs"
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You said "pretend", so you are claiming that I am pretending to not know the secret racist dog whistle language that apparently you know and the racists know?
Good point, you would have to admit that you were, at the very least, a former racist to be able to identify "dog whistles" that only racists can hear. Normal people just listen to the actual words.
Yep, this is confirmed by their 'academics' like Clara L. Wilkins saying explicitly "If you are white, you are racist.".


By the way this vile creature, Clara, 'serves on several editorial boards including the Journal of Personality and Social Psychology, Personality and Social Psychology Bulletin, and Cultural Diversity and Ethnic Minority Psychology.'

This is why psychology is quackery. These people dare appoint themselves 'experts' on the human mind.


In another part of this forum I discussed with you why armbands are needed. Here again we can see that appearance alone is not enough. Trump may look white (or orange) to some, but his and his supporters inability to speak racist indicates that he and they are not white given that if you are white, you are racist.

Thank you Clara L Wilkins for reaffirming this obvious truth through the stunning (and totally empirically reproducible) work of "just saying so".
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I have seen no mechanism by which "racist dog whistle" could be objectively evaluated. 
Well, we could see if racist dogs answer to it? 🐕🐕🐕
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I have seen no mechanism by which "racist dog whistle" could be objectively evaluated. 
Well, we could see if racist dogs answer to it? 🐕🐕🐕
Yes, put the racists (white supremacists and neo nazis) in charge of who you call racist. Nothing could go wrong.

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I'd add that "dogwhistle" is massively overused. You don't need to be that over the top overt to gaslight people into what words mean.
I actually haven't heard the term very often, but I'll take your word for it.

Specifically in the case of Trump, most of the racist stuff he says is openly racist instead of subtle signals.
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I was thinking more of lobotomize a few skinheads until they have the IQ of dogs... Err, maybe give them brain stimulants instead to raise them to that esteemed level?

Anyways, you take the dumb as dog skinheads, and have them listen to speeches while measuring their reactions.

It should go without saying that you'd test them with some Hitler speeches first, to get a baseline.
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look at the comments.
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If you look close enough at Trump's ear, you will see a naked lady.
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I think I see what you are saying.
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Where she called for very fine people on both sides to tone it down a notch...

True, however, most of who recognize the truth, that,  this is just initiation of yet another troll thread.

Trumpet > Make America Dumb Again > Republlican trolls for dumb and dumber.

End date for humanity 1065 <> 2015 <> 2065
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Make Trolls Great Again
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Trump DID, however, deem the KKK a terrorist organization, accomplish significant prison reform, and call for the country to unify together under natural rights, freedom, and liberty and justice for all. He also denounced Neo-Naziism and violent protests multiple times in his presidency.

That is what the media might have conveniently forgotten to report on.
this is one of those things that trump is really good at. On the one hand he says something is bad, then later says it is good. When the left says "look he said something horrible is good", his cultists just go "no he said it was bad". He says he condemns nazis, but people engaging in white supremacist race riots (many of them nazis) are good people.

He says the country is being stolen and you have to use force to save it, but peacefully, but forcefully. His supporters hear the call to violence, but can pretend like he didn't say to use violence. 
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When asked to condemn the nazi's, he would only say there was very fine people on both sides.

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Isnt this where somone in car drove over and killed person within a crowd?

Apparrrently trolls are not so great as OGP, Trumpet and MAGA cult would like to think they are.

And its one two three, whats that end-date again,

Dont ask a troll, they give a damn,

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Dark ash coming my way, nothing but dark ash falling from the sky.

Look its a bird, no its a plane, no its super Trumpet, coming to save us from narcissistic psychosis.

All for Trumpet and Trumpet for All.  MADA
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No. What really happens in 90% of cases is people in the media who just so happen to all like Democrat candidates and have an artificial boost in support due to creating echo chambers in the tech sphere, colleges and universities, and television networks, say Trump said the opposite of what he said and people, who do not have the time to devote to fact checking everything they hear in the news because most of the time the news doesn't even adhere to basic journalistic standards of credibility anymore and say WHERE they heard something or provide the linl to prove it, simply believe their TVs and websites aren't lying to them.

I have been a journalist for years. I even ran my own news blog at one point. Disinformation is real. I literally watched it unfold multiple times in the past 8 years. I would hear Trump say something innocuous and unoffensive when the entire sentence is spoken within the context of the entire speech, and then the next day hear a half-sentence soundbyte and an outright misinterpretation of it blasted in lockstep on every mainstream news outlet there is.

Come on now... Go back and actually listen to Trump's words in their context with an objective eye and come to your own conclusions. The media is nothing but a marketing agency for their owners and friends. It isn't truthful in the gross majority of cases.
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television networks, say Trump said the opposite of what he said and people
no, you just choose to ignore the thing he said. For example, when he said people engaging in a white supremacist rally were good people, but he denounces nazis. He is effectively praising and denouncing nazis at the same time. You choose to only focus on him denouncing them, but the nazis hear him praising them. 

Come on now... Go back and actually listen to Trump's words in their context with an objective eye and come to your own conclusions. 
i heard him praise people at a white supremacist riot. nothing you say changes that. We all heard him say it. People like you just choose to ignore it when he praises dictators, white supremacists and misogynists and point to times where he said the opposite. But him saying polar opposite things doesn't mean he is innocent, it just means he wants deniability for the terrible things he says and does. 
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Did the “assassin” even shoot at him?
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people engaging in a white supremacist rally were good people
Here is the entire quote from his press conference:

I do think there is blame – yes, I think there is blame on both sides. You look at, you look at both sides. I think there’s blame on both sides, and I have no doubt about it, and you don’t have any doubt about it either. And, and, and, and if you reported it accurately, you would say.

REPORTER: The neo-Nazis started this thing. They showed up in Charlottesville.

TRUMP: Excuse me, they didn’t put themselves down as neo-Nazis, and you had some very bad people in that group. But you also had people that were very fine people on both sides. You had people in that group – excuse me, excuse me. I saw the same pictures as you did. You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down, of to them, a very, very important statue and the renaming of a park from Robert E. Lee to another name.

Furthermore, a reporter flatly asked him later about that specific line and Trump said:

"So you know what, it’s fine. You’re changing history. You’re changing culture. And you had people -- and I’m not talking about the neo-Nazis and the white nationalists -- because they should be condemned totally. But you had many people in that group other than neo-Nazis and white nationalists. Okay? And the press has treated them absolutely unfairly.

"Now, in the other group also, you had some fine people. But you also had troublemakers, and you see them come with the black outfits and with the helmets, and with the baseball bats. You had a lot of bad people in the other group."

To anyone who actually LISTENS TO WHAT HE SAYS, we know what he really said. Not the fantasy land created by news outlets. He condemned the neo-nazis. He said the non-violent protesters were thd good people.

Trump also condemned white supremacists on a White House statement on the Charlottesville attack:

We must love each other, show affection for each other and unite together in condemnation of hatred, bigotry and violence. We must rediscover the bonds of love and loyalty that bring us together as Americans.

Racism is evil and those who cause violence in its name are criminals and thugs including the KKK, neo Nazis, white supremacists and other hate groups that are repugnant to everything we hold dear as Americans.

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I already posted the video in full. Anyone who is still acting ignorant at this point choose ignorance. HistoryBuff is a horse that will not drink.
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i heard him praise people at a white supremacist riot. nothing you say changes that.
Grats on reducing your perception of the world to a confirmation bias fallacy I guess?
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I've heard plenty of left-tribers praise people at a black supremacist riot (BLM riots).
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I don't know, most of what I see is self-flagellation instead of praise.
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That's a good article. I have no idea who the writer is but in this moment he is thinking like a philosopher.


But to push the point means you just don’t “get” it (you haven’t opened your heart to Jesus, perhaps?).
This is exactly what happens.

"Some thing you just know"
"If I have to explain it, you will never get it"
"Good people know this without having to be told"

I would add Wylted's appeal to "transcendental truth" to this.

The people saying these things aren't trying to trick you, but their thought process exits the conscious and rational and enters the subconscious and emotional. The transition is natural for them but they can't explain what they don't know. It is for the other mind just a dark tunnel their mind has disappeared into.

Those who can dig a bit deeper into the subconscious and explicitly state some more of those connections are the preachers and wisemen, an excellent example would be Jordon Peterson's exploration of various religious texts especially the bible.

The problem is people's subconscious are not reliable. They confuse what is with what they want to be true. They confuse lessons learned as a toddler with immovable truths. They make mistakes and then people who let their subconscious dictate their philosophy disagree with each other and have no way to resolve the difference.

It is the common delusion that everyone is disappearing down the same dark tunnel that creates religious ritual and attitudes.

When it is all conscious, when it isn't something "you just know" but can explain then the logic can be checked. Religions don't form on bodies of purely rational thought because there is no desperate need for communal validation of the mystical experience of drawing from the subconscious. Many people value this sense of magic like a drug and by comparison pure reason is flat, uninteresting, unprofound. To them, a man who needs only an argument to be convicted is isolated, arrogant, shallow.

Sadly I think this author is burning his time at a left-wing publication quickly and this does not represent the left-tribe at all. The point is that if praising people at a riot is guilt by association despite clarification there are quite a few guilty parties among the famous and elite.
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That "praising" as you call it...is really a form of indulgence.

These are the types of people who subscribe to gyms and gladly pay the recurring fee while never actually changing anything they do. It's a form of guilt relief to declare themselves faulty due to skin color because it absolves them from the compulsion to better the world and themselves.
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To anyone who actually LISTENS TO WHAT HE SAYS, we know what he really said. 
yes we do. he is dog whistling his support. Republicans do this ALL the time. They condemn violence, then praise those committing it. They condemn white supremacy, but then praise white supremacists. You are quoting him saying he is opposed to white supremacists, but then praise those engaging in a white supremacist riot. 

Trump also condemned white supremacists on a White House statement on the Charlottesville attack:
that doesn't even slightly negate my point. My point is that he says white supremacy is bad, but then praises white supremacists. sometimes in the same comment, sometimes a day or week later. This is what trump does. He's pretty famous for it. He did the same thing on Jan 6th. He whipped up the crowd to attack the capitol, then also threw in a "peacefully". His supporters point to the fact that he said the word "peacefully" and then ignore his calls to violence. 

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but then praises white supremacists.
Trump has NEVER praised white supremacists. The media lied to you.

Look, man. I am not even a huge Trump fan right now because his 2024 campaign is not the same one as his 2016 and 2020 campaigns. 

He has proven this time around he is not for deregulation of the economy, is not for getting the government out of our health decisions, and not for many of the other freedom-minded things he ran on in 2016. He is also pro-abortion now, so even basic rights such as a right to life don't seem to matter to him anymore. It is a totally different race.

That being said, I am voting for him because a vote for diet socialism is still better than a vote for complete socialism (Harris). But if a classically liberal candidate ran tomorrow I may possibly change my vote depending on if I think they can actually accomplish what they would set out to do in Washington. At least with Trump we know he gets things done. But I am really not a huge Trump supporter rn. Health Fascism is still fascism, regardless of the reason or intention. I am anti-fascist.

Harris is simply more fascistic than Trump, so I will be choosing Trump. But both are not really a good pick any more. The answer to expensive grocerie store prices is to lower the corporate tax rate, gas taxes, and other taxes, remove federal subsidies to food which pick winners and losers in the marketplace, and deregulate the economy, making it easier for other grocery stores to start up to compete and the competition will drive prices down for all people.

Grocery stores are not gouging anyone. They have had 2 straight years of shrinking profit margins. If they were gouging prices then they would have rising profit margins. The reality is this economy is in the toilet and these companies are likely on the verge of bankruptency since they have had declining sales for years following lockdowns that totally destroyed the supply chains and made products insanely more expensive to get due to massove amounts of bankruptencies of once thriving companies supplying products.

In short, government has caused the terrible situation we are in, so more government will make it worse.