“A Motion Detector should receive the same result if they see an action being performed by their target as they would if they see an action being performed on their target (and the same if they see both).”
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I’m confused and not seeing the issue some how
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@Lunatic
I've always understood Motion Detector to work the way Whiteflame describes it. Essentially, if Moozer performs an action on someone, it should give the same result as someone else performing an action on him.
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@Lunatic
He said the result he received was that Moozer visited someone. The result for a Motion Detector is non-specific. It tells you the Motion Detector was tripped, i.e. that your target either visited someone or was visited, it doesn’t delineate between the two. Unless it’s a specific variant, every Motion Detector I’ve seen has worked this way.
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@Lunatic
He said the result he received was that Moozer visited someone. The result for a Motion Detector is non-specific. It tells you the Motion Detector was tripped, i.e. that your target either visited someone or was visited, it doesn’t delineate between the two. Unless it’s a specific variant, every Motion Detector I’ve seen has worked this way.
Sorry for the double post… stupid post button.
I think I mentioned to Pie that I would give different results depending on if the target visited or was visited in Years mafia.
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@Earth
Fair enough. I do wonder if that’s something Pie would utilize in the mechanic going forward, though.
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@whiteflame
It says the person I target, I will learn if they target anyone, and if anyone targeted them.
So yes I am sure
sorry, or, not and
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@whiteflame
performed by or on that playerBy or on, dude. Both. Not one specific direction
doesn’t that just mean the same thing?
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@JoeBob
Like I said to Luna:
You said the result you received was that Moozer visited someone. Usually, the result for a Motion Detector is non-specific. It tells you the Motion Detector was tripped, i.e. that your target either visited someone or was visited, it doesn’t delineate between the two. The result is the same regardless. Unless it’s a specific variant, every Motion Detector I’ve seen has worked this way.
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@JoeBob
@Owen_T
@iamanabanana
That being said, I'm going to stop focusing on this for the moment. It's possible that Pie is using a variant of the role. If you're the only investigative role, then that suggests it's real, so I'd like to wait for others to give their results. Owen and Banana haven't posted yet, so I've tagged them both and I'll simply ask that if they have results to give, they should when they get online.
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@ILikePie5
Banana has been crowned King
The QUEEN has entered the room.
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@whiteflame
You said the result you received was that Moozer visited someone. Usually, the result for a Motion Detector is non-specific. It tells you the Motion Detector was tripped, i.e. that your target either visited someone or was visited, it doesn’t delineate between the two. The result is the same regardless. Unless it’s a specific variant, every Motion Detector I’ve seen has worked this way.
I get this whole confusing thing, but does it actually affect anything? I’m genuine curious, because either way we know that I visited somebody (you) with my doctor role, so we just have to wait and see if anybody visited me.
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@Moozer325
Okay, I promised my full claim first thing today so here it is.I am Mansukh Mandaviya, member of the Rayja Shaba and Minister of health and family welfare. Keep in mind I already clarified that he is technically now in the Lok Shaba and minister of Labor, but this happened just recently so he is most known for his work as minister of health.Because of this I am the 1x doctor. I visited Whiteflame because they are one of the more experienced players here and we didn’t have many roles to go off of.
Does your role say the shift between the Lok Shaba and Rayja Shaba, or was that your own clarification? Because it seems off to me that the moderator would specifically include that in your pm, if that's the mistake that whiteflame was calling out.
Anyone else notice this or am I making a big deal out of this?
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@Moozer325
I get this whole confusing thing, but does it actually affect anything? I’m genuine curious, because either way we know that I visited somebody (you) with my doctor role, so we just have to wait and see if anybody visited me.
Because it could indicate that he’s lying about his role, since the information he received doesn’t match what we would expect for a Motion Detector. It doesn’t change anything about how we read the result.
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@Lunatic
Banana is still technically POE though I kind of town read her too. Moozer, Joebob and earth are still POE to me, motion detector could be easily provable though but we need Joebob to out his results soon
If I am in the POE I will claim. I am Shivraj Singh Chouchan, and my ability is to be a "Popular Townie". The mod said my power is intrinsic and I don't have to tell him to use it.
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@iamanabanana
It did acknowledge it, but only briefly, that’s why I made the mistake. The role and flavor text are all about his time in the Rayja Shaba and as the Minister of Health.
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@whiteflame
Because it could indicate that he’s lying about his role, since the information he received doesn’t match what we would expect for a Motion Detector. It doesn’t change anything about how we read the result.
Oh yeah, that makes sense I guess.
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@iamanabanana
Does your role say the shift between the Lok Shaba and Rayja Shaba, or was that your own clarification? Because it seems off to me that the moderator would specifically include that in your pm, if that's the mistake that whiteflame was calling out.Anyone else notice this or am I making a big deal out of this?
You’re right that it’s weird that he didn’t say it was in the PM. Still unsure how to read Moozer on this one. The Doc claim comes off as a little sus, seems a little basic compared with the known roles on the table so far and it’s the only 1X role aside from the one that made you Queen for a Day Phase.
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@Moozer325
It did acknowledge it, but only briefly, that’s why I made the mistake. The role and flavor text are all about his time in the Rayja Shaba and as the Minister of Health.
So your message specifically mentions the both the Lok and the Rayja? You didn't have to research it to know that you were in one or the other?
It’s late on my end and my eyes are sliding off the page as I read, so I’m going to call it here. Will pick this back up on the morning.
Sorry guys I know I just got on but I had a long day and need to go to bed soon. Does anyone need anything from me before I go to sleep? I will vote for whoever the majority decides on, if you guys want to put a fake vote up or something anyway I will follow it.
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@whiteflame
@iamanabanana
Same here with the going to sleep thing. In answer to banana’s question, It did briefly mention that he is currently in the Rayja Shaba, but the entire character, role and PM are focused around his time in the Rayja Shaba. The mention of Lok Shaba was so quick that I spaced on it for a minute when I was soft-claiming.
Popular Townie requires an extra vote to lynch, right? I would say we could test it but that's not really an option today.
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@whiteflame
@Casey_Risk
I've always understood Motion Detector to work the way Whiteflame describes it. Essentially, if Moozer performs an action on someone, it should give the same result as someone else performing an action on him.
So your saying he should have just got a message saying “motion detected” instead of saying specifically the he visited someone, am I understanding that correctly? It’s suspicious because it specifically says he visited someone am I getting that correctly?
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@Earth
Popular Townie requires an extra vote to lynch, right? I would say we could test it but that's not really an option today.
I guess we can test it tomorrow then