Democrats will win every or almost every subsequent election if Kamabla wins

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UNDER CAPITALISM. Socialism will take that all away. So if you like capitalism, vote for President Trump.
Trump hasn’t got a clue. His father made the Trump fortune building low income housing under government contract.

How do you define socialism exactly?

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And don’t give me the crap about the Gilded Age, because that was practically worker enslavement, not the same as what we have today. They needed Government Intervention, we do not.
lol, so we needed government intervention back then. Your future is much less optimistic than your parents and grandparents generation. You better start getting activated.

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after their policies have been implemented, we will have US citizens with none or almost no power (they will have no guns and no right to capitalistic liberty) and we will have 10’s of millions of illegals all voting blue. (we already have them here we just are not sure how many are voting) We will be a wasteland for all illegal aliens and we will racket up the debt, and probably have a second great depression. This will all take place under the guise of “democracy"

Drugs, crime and abortion will kill your children. If they do survive, they will be consumed by the woke mind virus, their votes already bought and paid for. 
I would ask you if this is satirical but your follow up posts make clear that you are really serious.

One would think after hearing all of the same garbage in 2020 and none of it remotely coming to pass that people would learn. It's no wonder people vote for Trump.
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seeing as how the media lies about him, which is enough in my opinion to get me to vote for him
The irony of hating the media for lying about the most prolific liar we have ever seen in American politics is insane.
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Trump actually used the 8 trillion purposefully for stuff like the CARES Act, a Border wall, and Tax cuts, all of which helped the economy. Biden used it for stuff like the ARP act and the Jobs act, both of which were useless. Also, his massive inflation is a huge attribution to the debt. 
Can you please explain what Biden did to cause inflation?
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Can you please explain what Biden did to cause inflation?
Not just in the United States but also across the globe 

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Not just in the United States but also across the globe
You cant explain it to MAGA.

Trump destroyed economy and printed 2 trillion dollars just few months before Biden took office. You cannot print 2 trillion dollars and expect no inflation.
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Trump destroyed economy and printed 2 trillion dollars just few months before Biden took office. You cannot print 2 trillion dollars and expect no inflation.
How did Trump destroy the economy. Be specific. Was is something along the lines of "2 weeks (years) to slow the spread"?

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The irony of hating the media for lying about the most prolific liar we have ever seen in American politics is insane.
Before Biden dropped out, I looked at the lies he listed and it was things like "I have the biggest crowds". It's stupid immature criticisms of obvious hyperbole. Granted Biden is not the media but if the media is lying about somebody than you can't claim to be the good guys. We all know the media is evil. A good media and I may form a media organization so we have one, only covers things in a very disinterested way. I may even avoid headlines in my company and just do an article date because sometimes they even use headlines to lie and try to cover it up by giving almost the opposite opinion in the article.

For example instead of covering press briefings as fact, I would probably just live stream the press briefing with zero commentary so people can make up their own mind and I don't accidentally insert any bias or lies
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You shouldn’t be so demoralized. Demographic change in the US electorate is already a fait accompli, it’s baked into the cake. Even adding 10m new potential hispanic voters from illegal immigrants overnight (only around half of whom would actually vote and around 35% of those whom vote Republican based on current trends, in mostly safe states) wouldn’t do much of anything to change the long term trend. Republicans are going to have to learn to adapt to an increasingly diverse electorate no matter what. 

American society has changed several times throughout history. The original version of the constitution was for all intents and purposes completely destroyed by immigration in the 1800s. You just have to pick yourself up and keep going, and keep trying to advocate for a better world like you would do anyway. Nothing is ever over, no matter how low you get you can always get yourself into a better position even if certain doors are closed. 

If Trump is your last hope sorry but it’s over. Even if you have faith in his abilities (despite doing nothing the first time) if democrats are so close to permanent victory that one more presidential term means they win it all, then it’s already over. There will be another Dem POTUS eventually no matter what. I’m supporting Trump for President mostly because I want him to replace Alito and Thomas because I can’t stomach the Dem appointed justices and I think Kamala is a radical but even if he wins not much will change either way. 
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Republicans are going to have to learn to adapt to an increasingly diverse electorate no matter what. 
lol, well if republicans have to deal with the law being brazenly broken and then the lawbreakers being rewarded with political power then maybe democrats will just have to get used to the same thing.

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I mean yeah there are definitely millions of voters who should not have ever been here, either because they got some form of amnesty (which should never be granted to anyone ever) or because their parents were here illegally and they were automatic citizens because of our retarded birthright citizenship policy. What are you going to do about these citizens, an ethnic cleansing? The whiny attitude of “it’s over” is counter productive. There’s work to be done that can be done

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So all what democrats need to do in order to win is import more migrants.

Heh, I guess there really isnt any way for MAGA to win 2024 anymore, and Trump is old so he cant run for 2028.
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What are you going to do about these citizens
Birth might mean citizenship, but executive orders relating to amnesty do not.


ethnic cleansing?
If "criminal" was an ethnicity then law and order is all about ethnically cleansing that ethnicity.


The whiny attitude of “it’s over” is counter productive.
Oh I don't think that was the tone of the OP.

More of an animal backed into a corner giving one last warning before it strikes.


There’s work to be done that can be done
Hard to stay motivated when 50%+ of the product of that work will be stolen.
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Before Biden dropped out, I looked at the lies he listed and it was things like "I have the biggest crowds". It's stupid immature criticisms of obvious hyperbole. 
I don't know why you would limit your review to things Biden pointed out, you can find any fact checker who will list dozens if not hundreds of far more dangerous and consequential lies he's told, but it's odd that you would even need to do that. Trump's relationship with the truth is unlike anything we have ever seen in American politics, the man simply isn't concerned with whether anything he says matches to reality and that is demonstrated by literally every extemporaneous thought he utters. There is no way you can listen to him speak without seeing that.

As far at the crowd size lie among many others like it, the reason these lies are focused on so heavily is because aside from the obvious pettiness, childishness, and how small and insecure it shows him to be, which calls into question whether he is fit on the most basic level to be the commander in chief, these lies are very simple for people to understand. Knowing how freely he will lie about something so easily disprovable is the first step to understanding how much he lies about everything. If you are going to make excuses for something that should be so easily disqualifying then any further conversation is kind of pointless, at that point you're clearly not interested in seeing him for what he is.

We all know the media is evil.
No, we don't. Some organizations are what I would consider evil, and the marker for me is whether they are in business to report the news or whether they are in business to tell people what they want to hear. Fox News founding document outlining it's entire reason for existence was titled "a plan to put the GOP on television". That tells you all you need to know.

For example instead of covering press briefings as fact, I would probably just live stream the press briefing with zero commentary so people can make up their own mind and I don't accidentally insert any bias or lies
A nice idea in theory, until you have segments of our society actively spreading disinformation. It's irresponsible for any news organization to allow it without warning people about the lies being told.

This is the defining problem of our time in the media world. In a perfect world neutral journalism and objective journalism are basically the same thing. Not anymore. Today we have one political party lead by a man who is entirely unconstrained by reality, so actual news organizations are forced to choose between the two. To be neutral is to allow blatant misinformation to spread, to be objective is to effectively pick a side and be labeled bias. Heads I win tails you loose. That's what happens when you have a president who calls the press the enemy of the people. There is a reason the left freaked out about that in 2016, a society that has lost it's ability to tell reality from fiction is destined to fail.
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Oh I don't think that was the tone of the OP.

More of an animal backed into a corner giving one last warning before it strikes.
Yeah I just don’t see things that way. I think we have more agency to live conservative values in our own lives than we did in the recent past.

Just as an example, fifty years ago if you were unlucky the government would forcibly bus your kids to inner city schools where they would get no education be beaten up. And outside of private schools that mostly didn’t exist and were exorbitantly expensive it was illegal to protect them from that as homeschooling was totally banned. You had to move. If you resisted the state would take your kids. Now the state is going to pay for my kids Catholic education.

There’s been lots of moral degradation in the general population (this current culture is clearly NOT going to make it) but if you have the agency to avoid that it actually seems easier than ever to live your life…
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A nice idea in theory, until you have segments of our society actively spreading disinformation.


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I am at heart an engineer and my view of life is heavily materialistic. The fact that we are on average growing poorer and that is accelerating has no counterbalance.

There can be no counterbalance because the economy is life. Our purpose and happiness cannot be generally separated from our production and consumption and when you are left without grand children because your children don't feel prosperous enough to have them you'll see that I was right about the foundation of life.

If it weren't for the issue of economic liberty (and the ceaseless dishonesty) I might be a left-triber.
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I disagree that we’re getting poorer but I would agree that it’s in spite of bad policy ( we’re growing because of technology.) It is underrated how bad some dem economic policies are. It’s baffling that California with its incredible weather and nature and longstanding powerhouse industries is losing population because they make their state miserable for productive people to live in. When Dems like Kamala talk about “equity” it scares me because I can hardly think of anything that would be worse economically than trying to forcibly equalize outcomes 

Idk if you’re familiar with Richard Hannania but he said something I agree with recently, that he isn’t necessarily morally opposed to government intervention in a lot of stuff but every time it happens it just doesn’t work out the way he would want. It’s just done incompetently, the money is siphoned away by grifters, there are unintended consequences, etc. Free market is better 
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A nice idea in theory, until you have segments of our society actively spreading disinformation.
Your link doesn't even allege disinformation. 
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"The election has all the hallmarks of being stolen, nothing like it has ever been seen before; so the hallmarks say"
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Your link doesn't even allege disinformation. 
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Can you please explain what Biden did to cause inflation?
Inflation comes from government overspending: when the government overspends, they racket up debt, but since they are the government and they make the money, so they have to print more money to pay off the debt. So, what did the government overspend on?
- free stuff for illegal aliens (food, housing, etc.)
-200b in Ukraine
-billions to Taliban, not to mention all the weapons left behind (which is also a security threat)
-billions to Iran
-billions to Iran
-national service on the debt

Shall I keep going?

It's irresponsible for any news organization to allow it without warning people about the lies being told.
This epitomizes the problem with the left inherently: they think people are so stupid that they need to intervene. I disagree. The right is meritocratic, where the best ideas win, and the left is socialistic, where the best, worst and everything in between all ends up the same under the government’s rule.

If the people are so stupid that they can’t detect basic lies or google it if they are unsure, then they need to get smarter and be better (as meritocracy suggests), but they don’t need to be all fed the information equally, they must learn.

Your link doesn't even allege disinformation. 
so apparently you spew lies also, even when they have just been disproved literally on the forum for all to see. How ironic that you want to stop disinformation with media intervention, yet you’ll happily spew your disinformation without it.
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Not just in the United States but also across the globe
You cant explain it to MAGA.
No, but I just explained it to you and anyone else on the forum. Read the post above.
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Inflation comes from government overspending: when the government overspends, they racket up debt, but since they are the government and they make the money, so they have to print more money to pay off the debt.
Ok awesome. So essentially, racking up the debt is what caused inflation.

Can you now explain to me why the $7 trillion Biden racked up on our debt caused inflation like we haven't seen in 40 years, but the $8 trillion Trump racked up on our debt didn't?

It's irresponsible for any news organization to allow it without warning people about the lies being told.
This epitomizes the problem with the left inherently: they think people are so stupid that they need to intervene.
What this epitomizes is the problem with MAGA. It is a basic fact of human nature that people are terrible at using critical thinking to assess claims made in a political context, that's why propaganda is and has always been so prevalent all throughout recorded human history.

When this country was founded one of it's fundamental principals was to protect the rights to a free press, that's why freedom of speech is literally the 1st amendment. The founding fathers understood what you don't; that politicians will lie to their constituents and get away with it if you don't have a free press pushing back on those lies. 

Your link doesn't even allege disinformation. 
so apparently you spew lies also, even when they have just been disproved literally on the forum for all to see. 
Show me where in this document disinformation is alleged. I'll wait. Oh, and you might want to Google the definition of disinformation before attempting to do so.


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Your link doesn't even allege disinformation. 

It's a link about the CIA.....what is it with you and IWRA adamantly accepting the CIA as a trusted source of information?


That linked document clearly alleges that the former intelligence officials engaged in a deliberate act of disinformation by framing the laptop story as "Russian propaganda" with zero evidence to support that claim. The report also says that this clear disinformation campaign had real world significant consequences, as it buried serious allegations of malfeasance within the Biden family, thereby preventing voters from having access to a full set of facts before casting their ballots and therefore, was a threat to democracy. Why do you want to live in a world where the CIA can influence elections with zero pushback?
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Inflation comes from government overspending: when the government overspends
Wrong. If you had gone to college and took Economics 101, you would know inflation is caused by an imbalance between supply and demand.


free stuff for illegal aliens (food, housing, etc.)
-200b in Ukraine
-billions to Taliban, not to mention all the weapons left behind (which is also a security threat)
-billions to Iran
-billions to Iran
-national service on the debt

Shall I keep going?

Ya, if you want everyone to keep laughing at you. To suggest this is what is causing inflation is laughable 

The right is meritocratic,
If that were true, how could Trump be the leader of their party? He’s a moron 

If the people are so stupid that they can’t detect basic lies or google it if they are unsure, then they need to get smarter and be better
This is coming from a guy who thinks inflation comes from government overspending. Google what causes inflation. Your theory will not be listed as one of the causes 

The government has been overspending since 1980.




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what is it with you and IWRA adamantly accepting the CIA as a trusted source of information?
You think YouTube bloggers are a trusted source of information 

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 If you had gone to college and took Economics 101, you would know inflation is caused by an imbalance between supply and demand.

The assertion that inflation of all prices is solely caused by an imbalance between supply and demand overlooks a crucial distinction in economic theory. Supply and demand can certainly cause the price of a specific good or service to rise—this is often referred to as relative price inflation. For example, if there is a shortage of oil, the price of oil may increase, leading to higher costs for goods and services that rely on oil. However, this type of price increase is limited to the specific market experiencing the imbalance and doesn't necessarily lead to a broad-based increase in the general price level.

On the other hand, currency devaluation leads to a general increase in prices across the entire economy, which is the more comprehensive form of inflation. When a currency loses value relative to others, it decreases the purchasing power of that currency, making all imported goods and services more expensive. Since many economies rely on imports for a wide range of goods— from raw materials to consumer products—currency devaluation can cause a broad and sustained rise in prices across the board, not just in a single market. This affects the overall price level and leads to what is known as general inflation.

The gross conceptual error in that statement lies in conflating the effect of supply and demand on individual prices with the broader impact of currency devaluation on the entire economy. While supply and demand imbalances can lead to price increases in specific sectors, they do not cause a general rise in all prices. Currency devaluation, on the other hand, impacts the entire economy by reducing the value of money, thereby causing all prices to inflate, not just those in specific markets.

AI owns you.

Ya, if you want everyone to keep laughing at you. To suggest this is what is causing inflation is laughable 
"Oh, you want to be the star of the AI comedy show? Well, you’ve got me in stitches already! Just don’t ask me to tell a joke back—I’m more of a serious machine, you know, like the kind that overanalyzes your choice of socks!"
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On the other hand, currency devaluation l
Gee, no economists are saying the inflation of 2021 was caused by currency devaluation. But you keep using your robot to get your nonspecific answers.

So the U.S. dollar being devalued caused inflation in the eurozone. Interesting. If you did a little research you would see that the dollar was strong against other currencies throughout the 2021 and 2022. So you and AI don’t know what you’re talking about.

Apparently you are too dumb to use AI.

Oh, no work today again? So sad