Heroic Heroes Mafia DP3

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I agree with that. I still want to hear your thoughts on Earth.
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So I’ll point out that, even if we assume you visited WyIted instead on NP1, you’re still in trouble with your role claim. Let’s have a look at the list:

Dead players:

Casey- Perseus- Reflector- Town - Killed NP1
Wylted- Julius Evola- Dreaming God- Mafia- Lynched DP2
Lunatic- Brienne of Tarth- Brave Townie- Town - Killed NP2

Living:

Whiteflame- Arataka Reigen- Watcher- (targeted Luna NP1 [visited self], targeted JB NP2 [visited by Austin and Savant]
Earth- Dreamer - (failed NP1, NP2 dreamed of Savant, Austin and Owen)
Owen- Ear of Donald Trump - Strengthener (used on self both nights)
JoeBob- Iron man- Compulsive Interceptor (redirects actions to himself, targeted wylted np1)
Savant- Atticus Finch- Probate Lawyer (can confirm self if either WF or JB die)
Austin- Hans Niemann- Chess Grandmaster (predicts death twice in a row, gets role, chose JB DP1,  Luna NP1, JB DP2, WF NP2)

Admittedly, I’m deriving Owen’s role from his claim, since he didn’t state it directly (that’s the reason you’re tagged on this post @Owen), and Earth hasn’t claimed his character to my knowledge (hence I tagged you @Earth). I don’t love that Owen chose to use a role that could have been pretty useful on himself, since that’s a waste, but that also comes off as a townie, if overly careful, choice.

One of these things is not like the others. I can find very easy comparisons to known roles for everyone else, even if I’m wrong about the Strengthener. The only one I can’t find a comparison for is yours, @Austin. It’s a weird, difficult to obtain (seriously, twice in a row to get one one-shot role?!) and strangely limited (again, 24 hours? Why?) role that absolutely stands apart.

As for sussing Earth, I think your logic relies on WyIted holding it together through his frustration and actively tying himself to his scum partner, the same mistake Savant and Casey made last game that Wylted moderated. I don’t buy that he’d follow their lead and just out publicly that he visited his own scum partner to give him towncred. Wylted’s aim was clearly to give himself cover, and when it failed, his frustration was obvious. You’d have to believe all that was manufactured, and I don’t.

Not to mention, your timeframe for getting a message from Pie only makes sense if you sent him a message much later than you said you would. Pie posted at 11:54 PM, over two hours after you said you’d ask, and he’s consistently on top of his PMs when he’s online and moderating a game, much to his credit. You posted at 1:07 AM and gave no info. So either I buy that Pie got to it late, or you never sent him a PM. The latter is much more believable.
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@AustinL0926
Earth is an interesting case, and if you flip town I'll have to reevaluate a lot of what he said. But WF is right that the case for you being scum requires less leaps in logic. It could be Earth, but lynching him seems like more of a shot in the dark.
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I do feel like Austin is the better lynch.
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@whiteflame
I character claimed way back in DP1. I'm Shulk.
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@Earth
I character claimed way back in DP1. I'm Shulk.
Ah, my bad, I remember now. What’s the justification for Dreamer?
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@whiteflame
The Monado gives Shulk a glimpse into the future based on current actions and allows him to change/react to said visions to change the future. 
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Earths almost instant response to that is good enough for me

Vtl Austin
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ping for the vote
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Vote Count:

Austin (3/4) - Savant, Whiteflame, JoeBob
Owen (1/4) - Austin

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VTL Austin

If somebody targets me with an action my role can be confirmed this NP.
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Again, I'm not going to fight against my lynch today.

Earth's justification is okay. Nothing unfakable.

Let's revisit Day 1, starting here.


Earth has two votes. Wylted suddenly shifts to Joebob. He then gives a chat-GPT written explanation for why when WF asks him to elaborate. His tone is panicked, he's tagging everybody and anybody.

He says he's fine with making Earth claim but refuses to actually vote him.

Wylted again defends Earth when Casey questions him. He doesn't take the opportunity at all to try and lynch a townie. Why?

(Also, Casey mysteriously disappears into the night after that. Interesting.)

Going into day 2:

Wylted outs a result that semi-clears Earth. This is well before Joebob claims a contradictory result. Then Joebob comes in and it becomes Joebob vs Wylted.

Earth votes Joe and literally says he's fine with a mislynch.

When it looks like that isn't going to work, he immediately takes the opportunity to call Joebob vs Wylted a possible town vs town fight.

(Also as a bonus, Owen asks Wylted to claim when he already claimed - I think if they were scumbuddies they would at least know each other's claims).

Earth again says that Joebob vs Wylted might be town vs town.

Then suddenly, when Wylted is at L - 1, Earth says he'll consider hammering. There's no progression whatsoever, no reason given for why he's willing to hammer someone he strongly thinks is town.

I think it's just Earth here.










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Good luck town.
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Dang it sorry I though we were ready for hammer
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Joebob/Savant always clear

whiteflame likely clear

Owen is the only alt but unlikely

try to get at least one mechanical clear tonight

but yea take a closer look at Earth.
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Also, sorry in advance for my incompetency. I really was distracted with helping my family with some stuff last night.
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@AustinL0926
Owen is the only alt but unlikely

alt?
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STOP POSTING
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@AustinL0926
Well, if you’re actually town, I do appreciate your detailed thoughts. I’ll probably be dead this time around, so it’s MYLO after this. If I have a chance to post my own thoughts, I will.
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Guess not…
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Vote Count:

Austin (4/4) - Savant, Whiteflame, JoeBob, Owen
Owen (1/4) - Austin


Austin was lynched. He was…INNOCENT. Please submit night actions ASAP.
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@whiteflame
Lock please