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How would you know that? He is a big backer of project 2025
Citation needed and some left-wing media source does not cut it. Actually find a clip of him saying it.
here you go. he was nice enough to put it in writing. In a book written by the main architect of project 2025 talking about how great project 2025 is, he wrote the foreword to the book. Part of what JD vance wrote is “In the fights that lay ahead, these ideas are an essential weapon,”

Hard to say you don't support project 2025, when you said those ideas are an essential weapon.

Okay so we are talking in generalities here. In general you will find more people with children that care what the world will look like after they are dead than people who will not even exist in that world or have children 100 years from now. 
citation needed. Sounds like you're just pulling that out of your ass.

Wrong, the economic freedom index which tracks how republican a countries economic policies are, finds a direct correlation between economic freedom and quality of life. 
And that quality of life has been declining for decades in large part due to republican policies. The real purchasing power of a worker today is a fraction of what it was in the 70's and 80's. That is what republican policy has been doing. Your generation is poorer than your parents generation. Your children will be poorer than you (statistically speaking). That is just a fact.

I am literally trying to prevent my kids from living in the economic interventionist states that have the same policies you support such as Venezuela, North Korea, South Africa or Nazi Germany.
lol what? No one has suggested policies like those countries, except trump. He says stuff that would be right at home in those countries all the time. 

It doesn't make sense that people vote democrat for free shit
this is a common, and stupid, assumption. Public services aren't free. Everyone knows that. They are just much better services that are available to everyone. We all pay into them, we all get the benefit. The alternative is everyone being gouged and paying way more for worse service. Like americans paying WAY more for healthcare than any other country and getting worse outcomes, unless you're rich.

at the expense of the future and even at the expense of the economy where if we rejected welfare people would not need it because of how prosperous society would be. 
lol, this is just sad. Trickle down economics doesn't work. It was bullshit they sold to you to make you think that letting the rich take all the money would somehow benefit you. Decades later the rich have gotten richer, and the middle class is being crushed out of existence. But sure, if you just keeping handing the rich more money, maybe some day that work.

So why do you oppose prosperity, reduced poverty and support cutting the dicks off of children?
I absolutely support prosperity. I vehemently disagree that republicans' definition of prosperity is the same as the one everyone else uses. To republican elected officials, prosperity just means that the rich get richer. They don't care about anyone else and actively work against their interests.
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“In the fights that lay ahead, these ideas are an essential weapon,”
which ideas...this looks suspiciously like one of those gotcha quotes out of context. The ones propagandists are famous for.

Full text or gtfo.

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which ideas...this looks suspiciously like one of those gotcha quotes out of context. The ones propagandists are famous for.
he wrote that in the foreword of a book on project 2025 “Dawn’s Early Light”. Even if you ignore the quote entirely, he wrote the foreword in a book about project 2025 written by the primary architect of project 2025. You don't write the foreword of a book about project 2025 without knowing what it is and liking it. 

Here is the top of the "about" page for that book:
With a Foreword by J.D. Vance
Heritage Foundation president and Project 2025 head Kevin Roberts outlines a peaceful "Second American Revolution" for voters looking to shift the power back into the hands of the people.


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I found the full text of the foreword:

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Well, Jesus didn't have any kids.
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citation needed. Sounds like you're just pulling that out of your ass
Gave the Citation to best Korea but it is retarded to think those with a stake in the future care about it at the same level as those with no stake in the future.

And that quality of life has been declining for decades in large part due to republican policies. The real purchasing power of a worker today is a fraction of what it was in the 70's and 80's. That is what republican policy has been doing. Your generation is poorer than your parents generation. Your children will be poorer than you (statistically speaking). That is just a fact.
Again. retard logic. If there are more workers than jobs what happens?

Are democrats big into things that like immigration or more women in the work force and other things that create more workers than in jobs and depress wages.

Do democrats create more currency by spending more on social programs, sending money to Ukraine and Israel etc. Or do Republicans print .ore money inflating the currency to do that?

Do democrats create more regulations and tax corporations at a higher rate so they send their corporate offices over seas and remove high paying jobs from America or do republican?

Be less retarded. Learn some economics
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The full text is NOT in your source... I did see this:

But the inspiration for that extreme language can be found in Vance’s foreword, which ends with a call for followers to “circle the wagons and load the muskets,” 

This is more of the same "bloodbath" bullshit typical of propagandists taking shit out of context. You don't know the ideas he was talking about. I don't know either. So guessing the worst when no info is available is the work of children and fiction writers.

Feel free to cut and paste the entire forward or provider an actual link to the full text.

You don't write the foreword of a book about project 2025 without knowing what it is and liking it. 
Now you are full of shit. The source says nothing of the book being about the entirety of project 2025, and neither does the forward.

If you have to play these 6 degrees of separation games, then there is no there there. It's like saying Trump admired one thing Hitler did, therefore Trump is literally Hitler in all things. GTFO.
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In the forward, Vance wrote: “We should encourage our kids to get married and have kids. We should teach them that marriage isn’t just a contract, but a sacred – and to the extent possible, lifelong – union. We should discourage them from behaviors that threaten the stability of their families.”

 Do you suppose he's talking about cheating on all three wives, sleeping with porn stars, sexual assault, that kind of thing? 
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“We should encourage our kids to get married and have kids. We should teach them that marriage isn’t just a contract, but a sacred – and to the extent possible, lifelong – union. We should discourage them from behaviors that threaten the stability of their families.”

I'm deeply shocked J D Vance didn't say he encouraged his daughter to become a cat lady and his sons to become incel beta bros.
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“We should encourage our kids to get married and have kids. We should teach them that marriage isn’t just a contract, but a sacred – and to the extent possible, lifelong – union. We should discourage them from behaviors that threaten the stability of their families.”

I'm deeply shocked J D Vance didn't say he encouraged his daughter to become a cat lady and his sons to become incels.
No, he taught his daughter if a man is a celebrity, she should let him grab her pussy, and he taught his son how to put on eye makeup.


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Celebrities are a better source for kids than a cat for sure.
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The study measures impulsiveness. That's a decision to be impulsive or patient. 
So the study offers no evidence about proper vote cast. Maybe if you showed me a study which says that women with many children are more likely to vote democrat, I would support your idea.

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Well, Jesus didn't have any kids.
Jesus obviously didnt care about future.

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"So the study offers no evidence about proper vote cast. Maybe if you showed me a study which says that women with many children are more likely to vote democrat, I would support your idea."

The argument is not that people with children are more likely to vote for destroying the economy by boting democrat or not be evil by voting republican but on whether they have a long time horizon when thinking. 

It's important because a policy like hand everyone a million dollars tomorrow would benefit somebody in the short term, while having a disastrous 100 year impact
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The argument is not that people with children are more likely to vote for destroying the economy by boting democrat or not be evil by voting republican but on whether they have a long time horizon when thinking. 
So your argument is irrelevant then. I only care if it will make person more likely to vote democrats, since thats the proper decision in voting. Thats the only proper decision.

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So your argument is irrelevant then. I only care if it will make person more likely to vote democrats, since thats the proper decision in voting. Thats the only proper decision.
Why are policies that are harmful better to vote for than policies that are good ?

Unless you are a retard who thinks babies should get murdered, gay boys get castrated or to turn America into a 3rd world country. 
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Why are policies that are harmful better to vote for than policies that are good ?
It is my goal to make democrats win, so it is better. Think of a way how democrats can win easily.
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Unless you are a retard who thinks babies should get murdered, gay boys get castrated or to turn America into a 3rd world country. 
I may be a retard, but that doesnt change my goals. Plus, I think you just admitted that your idea helps republicans, so bad.

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It is my goal to make democrats win, so it is better. Think of a way how democrats can win easily.
Ever since you turned to the dark lord you have been promoting democrat values,  but Satan is just not that evil. He's evil but not that evil. You are going too far and you risk usurping him
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Satan is just not that evil. He's evil but not that evil
I know, but democrats are still better than republicans. Its not my fault that I am forced into dichotomy between retarded socialists and delusional Christian retards.
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You used to have a point but now the Christians are not in control of the right and it is just people who value things like freedom and patriotism
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Well, it doesnt matter. I still hate right.

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it is just people who value things like freedom and patriotism
I dont want freedom which right offers.

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Well, it doesnt matter. I still hate right.
Satanismnis not about the duality of right and wrong. You don't have to hate everything good
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I hate right. If you had proof that right was good and that left was much worse, then I would still hate right more.
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Everyone knows that when government manages economy, people become less cost effective. If government gives more welfare, people dont feel the need to work as much.

And now we have a situation where

left wants a welfare state failed economy with individual freedoms

And right wants to take away individual freedoms while creating somewhat better economy but not much better.

So both sides are shit, but I prefer individual freedoms and living on welfare.
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Listen, both of us are above this "left / right" nonsense.

Both of us know that society and economy can only prosper through survival of the fittest, and both of us know that neither the left neither the right have the fittest system.

Most of the people are retarded, and both the left and the right serve the wishes of retards who are digging their own and everyone else's economical grave with huge and careless government spending.
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God you are a retard for needing a study to prove those with a stake in the future care more about the future than those without a stake in the future
So since you are fully on board with the idea that people who have more steak in our future should have their votes counted more...

Do you support a cut off age for voting, along with some kind of weighted system that gives more weight to the votes of younger people?
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Do you support a cut off age for voting, along with some kind of weighted system that gives more weight to the votes of younger people?
Nobody is advocating for that. What has been said is that those with a stake in the future care more about the future than those without a stake in the future. That is what people are up in arms about. Stating that is not a policy proposal, it is merely a statement of fact
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Someone who's 75 cares about the next ten years. Someone who's 85 cares about the next five. Someone who is 35 cares about the next 50. Shouldn't that mean the 35 year old's vote counts most, and the 75 year old's count more than the 85 year old then? 
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Someone who's 75 cares about the next ten years. Someone who's 85 cares about the next five. Someone who is 35 cares about the next 50. Shouldn't that mean the 35 year old's vote counts most, and the 75 year old's count more than the 85 year old then? 
That depends on whether they have offspring or not and their IQ levels