What do people think of Biden’s Supreme court reforms?

My point about that was that they got removed. Are you saying our nation worked because we disenfranchised most of the population?

Well at least that way the court is representative, and I’ll remind you that my system doesn’t actually change this.

The average justice only stays on the bench for 16 years, so just because they have the option to stay on for longer doesn’t mean that they will.

In short, it already evens  out so that on average, four president get to appoint 8/9 of the court. This is no new info.

You know, the president ends up appointing on average 2.14 justices per term. You made this whole point about how the current system is more separate because the president doesn’t appoint justices as much, but clearly this is just not true.

If you count stability as having less appointments, then this is much more stable. 

This proposed amendment has everything you want, less appointments, fairness, and a more separate court, and you still oppose it. Why? I really hope it’s not just partisan politics.

 The only reason you think the system is unfair was because you and your puppet Hillary lost in 2016 when you had the backing of the media, Never Trumpers, and hardcore Dems.

No. A 2 term president gets 4 (minimum). 

Justices are going to stay till they die or can retire under a President who shares a similar ideology to them. 

Representative of what? I already said how the justices are already representative of the people via the President and Senate.

A court isn’t going to be separate if every President makes 4 nominees.

Republicans weren’t calling for term limits or an end to the Senate when the Dems controlled everything for literally decades

But that's the thing, I just proved that that isn't the case. Justitices stay on average for about 16 years, so a 18 year term limit doesn't even do much to stop people from serving.

I don't think you get the point. Sure, the president is elected representative, but they then go on and appoint a random number of justices, so some presidents with lots of support end up less appointments and some presidents with little support appoint a lot. It's not representative.

Again, you are just ignoring my statistics. The Average appointments per term is already 2.14, so this law actually decreases the number of appointments!

That's a logical fallacy, It has nothing to do with the actual substance of the argument at hand.

But it reduces independence for those who go past the average, especially with lifespans increasing

If you want to appoint more justices, win more elections and it will naturally happen.

Not my fault Hillary lost. Presidential victory and Senate confirmation occur indirectly via the people, so it’s false to say it’s not representative.

But you want to increase it to 4 nominees every term lol.

But you want to increase it to 4 nominees every term lol. 2 in first term and 2 in second lol. When the average President gets 2-3 in two terms. So you’re actually wrong.

Let’s face it, this request wouldn’t have come up if Hillary had won and appointed Scalia’s and RBG’s seat.

Yes, but that’s the whole point of an average. Most justices won’t be limited by the time frame.

Or just wait around and it will happen artificially.

No, I want to decrease it to 2. 18 years and 9 justices. 18 / 9 = 2 so justices get replaced every two years. 4 / 2 = 2, so each term there are 2 appointments, and two terms get 4. It’s simple math. Lol.

No, the average president gets 2.14 per four year term, so they get 4.28 per 8 year term. You are making up a statistic about each president getting 2-3, when it reality it’s four.

You’re right, it probably wouldn’t have, but it’s still a logical fallacy. We had no reason to repair a system that we didn’t think was broken. We didn’t think the system would be abused like this, so there wasn’t a need to fix it.

Ya but that’s still more than the current average of 2-3 lol, so you’re reducing independence.

That’s not how math works when the terms of justices are unlimited. No President has got 4 since Reagan I think. So the average is 2-3 in two terms, not 4 lol.

Again, it’s not abuse to follow the rules that have been in place for more than 2 centuries. And you have zero credibility bringing this policy up because your part is not in power in terms of the SCOTUS. We can talk again when your party is in control.

I think you're a little confused. The average for one four year term is 2.14, and for two four year terms, it's 4.28, not 2-3 as you keep saying. The proposed amendment would make it a solid 4, so it's going from 4.28 to 4, so less appointments.

That's still just a number you came up with in your head. The actual calculated average is 4.28 per 8 years. That is a fact you cannot dispute.

Still a logical fallacy, but yeah, let's do it.

No, what I’m saying is that your premise of just multiplying by 2 is false because of life tenure playing a factor in the number of seats available to fill.

It’s a misleading fact is my point because you’re just multiplying by 2, without considering the nuance of doing so. It’s not a linear relationship.