Villainous Villains DP1

Additionally, there's the question of third party. I'm not sure if we have a third party, let alone what the third party could be.

Pie - Neutral: I feel like he's talking the whole "let's limit scum's fake claims" thing a little far. There's only so many hints as to what your character is before it gets too easy for mafia to guess.

Some franchises/IRL things have enough villains to facilitate asking "where's your character from", and some don't. Baiting people into making a guess easier is something scum Pie would do. However, the other side of the coin is that a lot of what he's saying seems like a continuation of Casey's idea after reading the DP. I've also seen Pie come up with plans that he strongly believes are correct as town, and this fits that. All in all, I'm not entirely sure what to make of it. I need to see more.

Okay back to null. Why did you choose Billy Mitchell as your character? 

Let’s pressure Wylted for a full claim. His character is very odd, and he sucks at fake claiming as scum. 

I would expect third party to be in the 12-player games, not the 9.

I'm just going to say this: The thing my character is from doesn't have a whole lot of notable villains. I'll consider telling you either the thing they're from or the year they were born. I won't give you both.

As for the Wylted train, I don't think it's that great of an idea to get his claim. All that's going to do is help scum sort out who has the stronger PRs from the weaker ones. Sure, they'd be doing a lot of guesswork, but I'll be educated guesswork, and I'm not comfortable giving them more information to work with.

I want more depth on your reasoning as to why you think we should get his claim. Why is his character strange to you?

And what's to stop Wylted from having a good fake claim in this game, where it can be anything that interests him?

Do you really think he's so bad at fake claiming that he would fail to come up with a good one here? Are there any additional reasons to get his claim that you have in mind?

He is a fucking here to me. He wins donkey Kong with the same flair and maybe even tactics that I win survivor or the presidential election with. Also he is hilarious 

We all picked characters and there is no theme. The character being odd is not even as odd as the one I picked the last time we did this

As for the Wylted train, I don't think it's that great of an idea to get his claim. All that's going to do is help scum sort out who has the stronger PRs from the weaker ones. Sure, they'd be doing a lot of guesswork, but I'll be educated guesswork, and I'm not comfortable giving them more information to work with.

And the things I asked don’t make it any easier. A Google search will have hundreds of things, but they’re going to be harder to justify for scum.

So you don’t want to get a claim from anyone? Why?

No one knows him. He’s not famous by any means. And is he truly a villainous villain? I don’t think so.

He sucks at fake role claiming, so he’ll either claim something crazy or something that will likely be CCed somehow.

But how’s he a villain?

I actually want to move to Mharman for insinuating that no one should claim because it would give scum information. This post in particular doesn’t make me feel comfortable:

That's fair, but that may also depend on thing your character is from.

Not yet. A full character claim will make things easier for the scum team. Unless we have a good FOS on someone, I say we shouldn't pressure a claim out of them.

Many of the characters here are going to be niche. They're either selected by the people in this game or by Lunatic, based on our/Lunatic's interests. I've heard of Billy Mitchell though. I would say he's pretty villainous.

Oh you mean fake role claiming when you say he sucks. This is a compelling point, I'll give you that.

I'm not full claiming.

Honestly most people should ve at the very least character claiming unless you literally picked like an evil cop like from terminator 2 or candy man who would obviously be a doctor. I assume most of us didn't make ignorant picks like that though

PART 1: As for the Wylted train, I don't think it's that great of an idea to get his claim. All that's going to do is help scum sort out who has the stronger PRs from the weaker ones. Sure, they'd be doing a lot of guesswork, but I'll be educated guesswork, and I'm not comfortable giving them more information to work with.

PART 2: I want more depth on your reasoning as to why you think we should get his claim. Why is his character strange to you? And what's to stop Wylted from having a good fake claim in this game, where it can be anything that interests him? Do you really think he's so bad at fake claiming that he would fail to come up with a good one here? Are there any additional reasons to get his claim that you have in mind?

Pie: So you don’t want to get a claim from anyone? Why?

Pie: He sucks at fake role claiming, so he’ll either claim something crazy or something that will likely be CCed somehow.

Mharman: Oh you mean fake role claiming when you say he sucks. This is a compelling point, I'll give you that.

My initial reaction would be to give you a townread for giving that up with no pressure, since it "looks" so bad, but I'm wary of a "refuge in audacity" bluff. You, or someone else, can correct me if this is wrong, but from the few posts I've seen from you so far, you strike me as someone who might try to pull that sort of strategy off.