Clash Of Clans Mafia Day Phase 1

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@420-1776
Get out of this thread.
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Do not read anything between my last tag to you guys and this one. It will only cause severe brain damage and neither of you deserves that. All you need to know is that 420 got themselves modkilled. Please vote pie now. Or whiteflame, idgaf. One of those two. Pie has more votes on them though.
Durrr, too late!

And yeah, ouch. Once again, sorry that I invited him to try out mafia. I was actually going to take my vote off him due to mharman's idea of how to find a replacement, but I doubt that will be available now.

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Do you have any thoughts to post or are you still thinking and/or typing?

Just trying to get the lynch on Pie here.
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@Barney
Eh. I’m glad ur back and I’m happy you read the brainrot…. it’s a necessary evil that may help your decision making.

Again, please vote Pie. I under you may want to read more first like Whiteflame, but please do at some point at least.
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*understand, not under
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I hope Lunatic gets here soon. I pinged him on Discord, hoping to speed up that process. If you’re reading this, that’s your cue to do so as well.

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Just got out of church. Catching up now
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@Mharman
Just trying to get the lynch on Pie here.
Why? For a nonexistent scumslip? Did you even bother asking if scum were provided game information? Or are you just going to sit here and be pretty and lynch me for no reason?

Anyways. 420 is going to be modkilled and he’s obviously town. Who instantly sussed him earlier today? Savant. 


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Thank you for trying out mafia, even if it wasn't your jam.

Up Dog is a classic dad joke...

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Why? For a nonexistent scumslip? Did you even bother asking if scum were provided game information? Or are you just going to sit here and be pretty and lynch me for no reason?
I gave other reasons. It’s not just the slip, it’s everything else that in context of your slip, makes me believe it is a slip.

Anyways. 420 is going to be modkilled and he’s obviously town. Who instantly sussed him earlier today? Savant.
I can’t even blame Savant at this point. To me, it looks like 420 joined just to troll. With that in mind, he was completely anti-town, just not in the way Savant said.
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@420-1776
You said that 10 years ago, you could beat up Mike Tyson.  That's why I said that
I could then and even that he is older I can. This is just a statement of fact, not be trying to be tough. By the way I also admit he would destroy me in a boxing match even now
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doubt
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Anyways. 420 is going to be modkilled and he’s obviously town. Who instantly sussed him earlier today? Savant. 
I legit want to lynch savant. I am trying to control the impulse right now. What did he claim anyway, I forget?

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What did he claim anyway, I forget?
Something confirmable. I don't think he gave anything specific, unless he did and I just forgot.
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I legit want to lynch savant. I am trying to control the impulse right now. What did he claim anyway, I forget?
He claimed an affiliation confirmable role that would be revealed tomorrow 
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doubt
Brown version of church. It’s basically a cult. I’ll tell you more about it later
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@Mharman
Do you have any thoughts to post or are you still thinking and/or typing?

Just trying to get the lynch on Pie here.
I'm organizing my thoughts, but I'm going to avoid making a long post out of it, so I'm going to try to summarize (not my forte).

There haven't been too many instances that I'm aware of where someone just commits die and gets modkilled, so it's not a circumstance I've had to deal with before. Given that we know 420's flip, his being modkilled doesn't give us any new information, it just narrows the potential scum pool a bit (though we were generally townreading him, so it's doubly unfortunate). So from that perspective, I've changed my mind about the prospect of lynching this DP, since scum is likely to kill more townread players and their flips are going to be less informative. It also just means delaying a lynch and hoping for the best with night actions, and given that my role is likely to be rendered useless NP1 and WyIted's wont give us information until NP3, I suspect the information we gain will be limited.

As for picking Pie, my gutread on his behavior still leans town (frankly, I don't think he's likely to engage in this kind of uncertain play as scum), but some of his more recent posts have been confusing. He kept mentioning how people were derailing the vote when he didn't even have a vote down, proceeded to VTL me because he perceives me as the only other viable choice despite his prior concerns about lynching an un-CC'd Cop. My choice would have been to get a claim from Barney, but now that we have 3 full claims on the table (even if one of those is dead), I don't think it's beneficial to keep seeking more this DP. If it's a choice between a VTNL and lynching him, I'd prefer to lynch Pie, since he's moved into my null pile at this point. It looks like he's making this a heads up between the two of us in the end, so I don't think I'm being given much choice anyway. I'll wait for him to post before making a decision.
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@Mharman
I gave other reasons. It’s not just the slip, it’s everything else that in context of your slip, makes me believe it is a slip.
You have to think the scum team is exactly Pie/WF for your context to make sense. I’m definitely not scum. If I was scum, you’d have to assume I purposely forced WF to claim and made him state his justification, which has holes in it.

You seemingly townread WF based on your response as to what changed. So here’s the question. If Pie is scum and WF is town, why is Pie hesitating to vote WF?
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As for picking Pie, my gutread on his behavior still leans town (frankly, I don't think he's likely to engage in this kind of uncertain play as scum), but some of his more recent posts have been confusing. He kept mentioning how people were derailing the vote when he didn't even have a vote down, proceeded to VTL me because he perceives me as the only other viable choice despite his prior concerns about lynching an un-CC'd Cop. My choice would have been to get a claim from Barney, but now that we have 3 full claims on the table (even if one of those is dead), I don't think it's beneficial to keep seeking more this DP. If it's a choice between a VTNL and lynching him, I'd prefer to lynch Pie, since he's moved into my null pile at this point. It looks like he's making this a heads up between the two of us in the end, so I don't think I'm being given much choice anyway. I'll wait for him to post before making a decision.
I don’t have a choice. Mharman’s logic is completely flawed. Disc seems to believe it for no reason. And Savant has been after me the entire DP. If it’s you or me, I know I’m town. I’m also fine with VTNL in light of 420 being modkilled.

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Okay, so 420 really threw a wrench in the works here. He's about to get modkilled, which will leave us with 6 town and 2 mafia. If we mislynch somebody today, that puts us at MYLO tomorrow, which is nuts. The consensus here seems to be that if we are going to lynch somebody, we lynch either Whiteflame or Pie. I'm not crazy about either of those tbh. I don't like the idea of killing WF due to him claiming cop (I realize that Wylted's role sheds some doubt on his claim, but it's still not a direct cc), and I'm not entirely convinced by the Pie train either. I really don't like the idea of being at MYLO DP2, which makes me think that maybe we should just No Lynch today.
A townie is already dead. Realistically the DP ends automatically on a modkill, unless Luna has some weird policy. No Lynch is optimal. We get information tomorrow. 
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Player                          Character             Role                       NP1
Wylted                          Clan Recruiting   Neighborize 
Whiteflame                 Guard Tower        Cop
iLikePie5                      
Savant                                                             (affiliation confirmable)
Casey_risk
Discipulus_didicit
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420-1776                       Klause!                   Dark Lord          🪦🪦🪦


No theme split.

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Savant and iLikePie5 have a feud going on (if one dies, it could be an attempt to frame the other, but it could also be the other is legit guilty). 

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I'll be voting. I just want to see an updated vote tally first.
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Here’s the problem with Mharman’s argument. Mharman believes I’m scum and Whiteflame is town. But that makes zero sense. If that were the case, I would’ve voted Whiteflame long ago instead of sitting there twiddling my thumbs. 
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Brown version of church. It’s basically a cult. I’ll tell you more about it later
Please do. I love that stuff and study cults, though I never get the chance to talk about them here
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I'm more trusting of Wyiteds claim now that we know other townies have weird claims like that.

He needs time for his investigation, and we're already down one person.

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Official Vote Count:

Pie- 3/ 5-savant, mharman, DD
VNTL- 3 /5- Wylted, pie, Barney


Okay first of all I appologize for putting a newbie in the game. I figure most noobs usually try to understand at least the most basic of basic rules before they join and post. He seemed to have some similarity with mafia at first, and I was trusting barneys reccomendation a lil bit (not to blame barney, he couldn't have known he would do that). Anyways, what I am going to do is change his role to a third party survivor. I know number wise, it still hurts the town, but I don't really know what else to do with that slot. I feel like giving a benefit to town would be unfair to mafia also since it's not really their fault either. It's just an unfortunate situation. I was going to replace him with the first dead townie, but it looks like he posted his pm before I could. Oh well. In fairness to him I also don't think he intended to rule break, I think he genuinely didn't know, but at the same time if he was reading or even caring about playing I am sure the players would have told him there was a reason why everyone is paraphrasing. Ultimately he didn't care, so it is what it is.

So yeah, just turning him into a 3p survivor.

I feel like ending the day phase here would also be unfair to town, so I'll leave it up to town as a whole if they want to no lynch in this circumstance, rather than rob them of a lynch.

There is still roughly 3 hours in the day phase. If a lynch isn't reached by then it will end in a no lynch regardless. Good luck. 


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with 8 players left, it takes 5 votes to reach a lynch.
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tl;dr 420 was modkilled and turned into a 3p survivor. 
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2 hours and 20 minutes remaining in the day phase.
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If an extension is wanted I can grant one if three or more people want it, since the day phase was stalled until I woke up. It would only be like a two hour extension max though since I got up fairly early