Clash Of Clans Mafia Day Phase 1

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@Savant
Could be Mharman and Discipulus_Didicit
I actually see this. The derailment is real
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@Mharman
give ur thoughts anyway. Say where ur confused if you are.
I got spammed with like 13 different fourm posts.  I feel very bewildered.  I'll have to do my best to read the posts and try and make conclusions.
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Ok. Please try to get something posted before the DP ends, ty

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@Discipulus_Didicit
420 if you are an alt of someone tell us now so we can read you easier.
I'm an alt of someone.  I don't want to say who.
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I think that he saw a warning of a potential bomb from Lunatic, and said “oh damn I gotta watch for that”…. Then, when the time came to say why he didn’t want to wait for your claim, the confusion happened and he slipped 
Where did this talk of a Bomb even come up? This talk of a bomb is very interesting to me. 
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Where did this talk of a Bomb even come up? This talk of a bomb is very interesting to me. 
Let’s just say it just makes sense.
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As for the elucidation of your claim, I don't really get why the PM apparently says scum will "get a leg up" when you recruit them, then says that you would also get info on whether scum is in that pool. So within the same PM, you're being told that your role can help scum somehow... and allow narrow the pool of likely scum substantially?
So essentially a carrot and a stick. The carrot for recruiting would be my ability to investigate on NP3 and the stick would be that if I recruit scum they get some advantage. Maybe an extra power or something. It wasn't made clear to me. 




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@420-1776
I'm an alt of someone.  I don't want to say who.
We already know who you are Alec. The DP ends in 5 hours. I know you don't know what that means, it's really frustrating that you signed up for a game but aren't playing.
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@Barney
The main way to determine who is scum, is just by asking people questions and such, and look for contradictions, or simply your own gut instinct. 
What would be good questions to ask?
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@Discipulus_Didicit
 If so I request that you vote Mharman to increase your chances of winning.
I'll vote Mharman because of this.
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@Mharman
Post #71: (paraphrased)

Wylted: I’ll give you my claim next DP

Pie: No because Lunatic said the game could end NP1

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The problem? Lunatic never said that. I checked all of his posts up to that point. He said the game could end quickly for either side, but he never said NP1.

I’ve been feeling that Pie was irrationally and unusually scared ever since he started to promote the idea of a VTNL, but this might be why. 
Pushing for the VTNL has had me wary for a while now, mainly because I don't think I've ever seen Pie do that in DP1. I kind of get why he'd do it based on the claims we have on the table, but it's unusual to see Pie take this long to pursue more claims if he's this uncertain. The problem is that it's so unusual for him that I can't really place whether it's a scum move or a town move, though I'm still leaning towards the latter since I don't think he'd let a DP go by without a lynch as scum (call that a gutread from playing with him for so long).

But to get to the meat of what you're saying, I agree that it's odd to say so definitively that the game could end in NP1. I have a hard time believing that Luna would have said those specific words to Pie, though Luna might have emphasized that part about the game ending quickly and Pie could have just extrapolated. I don't know if I'd go so far as to call it a scum slip, since I don't think Pie would have revealed this view as scum, but I'll admit that's WIFOM and another gutread on Pie.

I did say a possible teammate for Pie couldn’t be established conclusively… but I didn’t say one couldn’t be established at all.
Not sure what this is in response to, but... alright.
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Bruh. I’ll let Disc handle that.
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Let’s just say it just makes sense.
Ok fair. I think I know what you mean. Either way. You can just ask Luna if he told scum anything about the setup—which he probably didn’t. I’m fine lynching WF over myself any day. Don’t forget that I was the one who even asked for justification to begin with. 

VTL WF
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@ILikePie5
Are you seeing the derailment I’m seeing?
Yes, not sure what to make of it TBH
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@420-1776
Please say and bold the following. It must be bolded:

VTL whiteflame
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@Barney
Dude, you need to bring us some more Up Dog or we're going to have to put you down.
What else do you want me to tell you?
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Not sure what this is in response to, but... alright.
It should be obvious to you… go back and look
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@WyIted
So essentially a carrot and a stick. The carrot for recruiting would be my ability to investigate on NP3 and the stick would be that if I recruit scum they get some advantage. Maybe an extra power or something. It wasn't made clear to me. 
In other words, your PM implies an advantage that you don't know and won't be informed of?
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@Mharman
Bruh. I’ll let Disc handle that.
lmao already got it before I saw this
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@Discipulus_Didicit
I really do not want to lynch Whiteflame.
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lmao already got it before I saw this
Thx
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Any questions so far?
I think I understand.  But how will I figure out who committed the murder?
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@Mharman
I want to see ur reads
What does this mean?
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@WyIted
Yes, not sure what to make of it TBH
It’s odd for sure. I think I know why he’s thinking the way he’s thinking based on what he just said
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@420-1776
It means I want you the read the DP, and then give ur thoughts on who you think is what
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@WyIted
I really do not want to lynch Whiteflame.
You were fine with it last night it. What changed? 
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@Barney
Everyone is supposed to pretend to win with town
Here is a quote from Lunatic about my role:

420- You are Klause! Klause is considered one of the best clash players in Clash of Clans, and is known to pull off some of the craziest strategies to pull off 3 star victories over his opponents in wars. You are the Dark Lord. Because you have the ability to end attacks early, you can decide to end a day phase early at any point. The day phase will end in a plurality lynch, meaning whichever player has the most votes on them will automatically be lynched. This is a 1x ability that can be used in the day phase. You win with the town.
Highly unlikely I made it all up.
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Any questions so far?
I think I understand.  But how will I figure out who committed the murder?
There have not been any murders yet. The first murder will come in NP 1. We are in DP 1. It goes DP1--->NP1--->DP2--->NP2---> etc.
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@ILikePie5
What category is your character in?
Is this information relevant (from Lunatic):

420- You are Klause! Klause is considered one of the best clash players in Clash of Clans, and is known to pull off some of the craziest strategies to pull off 3 star victories over his opponents in wars. You are the Dark Lord. Because you have the ability to end attacks early, you can decide to end a day phase early at any point. The day phase will end in a plurality lynch, meaning whichever player has the most votes on them will automatically be lynched. This is a 1x ability that can be used in the day phase. You win with the town.

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@Lunatic
Please replace 420 with the first town death. I know it will pass off scum if they targeted somebody based on their skill level and not other reasons but I don't think the game can be fair without it and if I have to deal with 420 at Lylo, I am just going to quit. I think anyone stuck in that situation will have a similarly unenjoyavle experience as well.