Clash Of Clans Mafia Day Phase 1

Author: Lunatic

Posts

Read-only
Total: 742
ILikePie5
ILikePie5's avatar
Debates: 3
Posts: 14,592
3
7
10
ILikePie5's avatar
ILikePie5
3
7
10
-->
@Mharman
@Discipulus_Didicit
I know the point you both are trying to make. In an ordinary game, I would agree with you 100%. My only issue is Luna explicitly saying the game could end fast, which I interpret to mean DP2 or NP2. 

I’m also still hesitant on lynching a claimed Cop. Granted that this could just as easily be a fake claim cause Luna gave me and Supa Cop as fake claim in Invincible I think. It was a choice between Cop or Doctor with Luna telling us one of the two was in the game and the other wasn’t.

The main issue for me is Guard Post. It’s not the first thing I would think of to make Cop. It makes more sense as a defensive role. Something like a redirector also makes sense just cause the troops in the post are annoying when attacking. 

I’m going to sleep on it. 
WyIted
WyIted's avatar
Debates: 28
Posts: 4,577
3
4
9
WyIted's avatar
WyIted
3
4
9
Before the DP ends I just want to say that if anybody NKs me, they are gay
Lunatic
Lunatic's avatar
Debates: 3
Posts: 8,629
3
3
6
Lunatic's avatar
Lunatic
3
3
6
Official Vote Count:

Whiteflame- 2/5-  DD, wylted
Barney- 1/5-  pie
iLikePie5- 1/5- savant
420- 1/5- Barney

15 hours remain
Barney
Barney's avatar
Debates: 53
Posts: 3,422
5
9
10
Barney's avatar
Barney
5
9
10
-->
@whiteflame
@ILikePie5
@Discipulus_Didicit
@Savant
@WyIted
There is a high probably of us mislynching DP1.

420 won't do any good sitting there being idle. If anyone knows of an inbound replacement, great, but if not he should be our kill.

If we don't kill him, every day we'll have one less vote, even while the votes needed will stay the same. This gives scum too much control.
Savant
Savant's avatar
Debates: 23
Posts: 1,966
3
7
6
Savant's avatar
Savant
3
7
6
-->
@Barney
@whiteflame
@ILikePie5
@Discipulus_Didicit
@WyIted
I hate that the bar is this low, but defending a confirmed cop makes Pie less scummy in my eyes. Discipulus_Didicit could easily be scum given how quicky he jumped on lynching an un-cc'd cop.

VTL Discipulus_Didicit
Savant
Savant's avatar
Debates: 23
Posts: 1,966
3
7
6
Savant's avatar
Savant
3
7
6
*un-cc'd, not confirmed. Though to me it seems pretty much the same.
Savant
Savant's avatar
Debates: 23
Posts: 1,966
3
7
6
Savant's avatar
Savant
3
7
6
-->
@420-1776
Plz participate or you're going to get lynched. Vote against Discipulus_Didicit if nothing else.
Savant
Savant's avatar
Debates: 23
Posts: 1,966
3
7
6
Savant's avatar
Savant
3
7
6
-->
@whiteflame
Right now your head is on the chopping block, and we are in danger of losing our only cop. Even if Discipulus_Didicit is town, leaving him alive will always be a liability. I recommend voting against him if you don't want to be mislynched.
Savant
Savant's avatar
Debates: 23
Posts: 1,966
3
7
6
Savant's avatar
Savant
3
7
6
-->
@Barney
@whiteflame
@ILikePie5
@WyIted
@420-1776
And town protective should 100% be on our only cop claim (whiteflame). We can sus him later if he fails to deliver results, but losing an investigative role like that is too big a loss, especially in a game that Luna says is very swingy.
Savant
Savant's avatar
Debates: 23
Posts: 1,966
3
7
6
Savant's avatar
Savant
3
7
6
-->
@Casey_Risk
See above. Also vote Discipulus_Didicit.
Mharman
Mharman's avatar
Debates: 23
Posts: 4,779
3
6
10
Mharman's avatar
Mharman
3
6
10
-->
@Barney
420 won't do any good sitting there being idle. If anyone knows of an inbound replacement, great, but if not he should be our kill.

If we don't kill him, every day we'll have one less vote, even while the votes needed will stay the same. This gives scum too much control.
I hate it but if he really isn’t going to do anything all game long I can see where you’re coming from and the idea is something to consider. However, I think we should give Lunatic at least until DP2 to find someone to replace. I haven’t seen it done in a while, but maybe a dead townie can replace.
Mharman
Mharman's avatar
Debates: 23
Posts: 4,779
3
6
10
Mharman's avatar
Mharman
3
6
10
-->
@ILikePie5
If this game is that swingy, that doesn’t mean town can lose NP1 like you fear. That’s likely mafia that can lose that quickly.

The soonest I can see us losing is NP2. Knowing it’s a 9 player game, the soonest town can lose normally would be DP3, but I can see some weird stuff happening that allows mafia to end the game on NP2. I remember in another Lunatic game (MMA Mafia, where I was scum), Whiteflame and I abused it for the win.
Discipulus_Didicit
Discipulus_Didicit's avatar
Debates: 9
Posts: 5,757
3
4
10
Discipulus_Didicit's avatar
Discipulus_Didicit
3
4
10
-->
@Barney
@Casey_Risk
It's up to you two to vote for the guy that is basically a CCed cop with a weird justification.

420 isn't going to vote for whiteflame because he isn't playing

Savant isn't going to vote for whiteflame because of his tunnel vision

Whiteflame isn't going to vote for whiteflame because he is whiteflame

Pie isn't going to vote for whiteflame... God knows why... probably whiteflame's scum buddy.
Mharman
Mharman's avatar
Debates: 23
Posts: 4,779
3
6
10
Mharman's avatar
Mharman
3
6
10
Wait a minute
Discipulus_Didicit
Discipulus_Didicit's avatar
Debates: 9
Posts: 5,757
3
4
10
Discipulus_Didicit's avatar
Discipulus_Didicit
3
4
10
-->
@Mharman
If I die tonight follow your heart on that Pie scum read. I think you were definitely onto something.
Savant
Savant's avatar
Debates: 23
Posts: 1,966
3
7
6
Savant's avatar
Savant
3
7
6
-->
@Discipulus_Didicit
If I die tonight follow your heart on that Pie scum read.
Too late, bud. I would have helped you on this earlier in the day phase, but your flip-flopping here and accusing a claimed cop is way more suspicious than Pie's behavior. Also you can't accuse me of tunnel vision when I literally just took my vote off Pie.
Discipulus_Didicit
Discipulus_Didicit's avatar
Debates: 9
Posts: 5,757
3
4
10
Discipulus_Didicit's avatar
Discipulus_Didicit
3
4
10
-->
@Savant
Also you can't accuse me of tunnel vision when I literally just took my vote off Pie.
I was referencing your tunnel vision of assuming WF was town even after the CC.
Mharman
Mharman's avatar
Debates: 23
Posts: 4,779
3
6
10
Mharman's avatar
Mharman
3
6
10
ATTENTION

I think I may have found a scum slip.

—————————————————————

Post #71: (paraphrased)

Wylted: I’ll give you my claim next DP

Pie: No because Lunatic said the game could end NP1

—————————————————————

The problem? Lunatic never said that. I checked all of his posts up to that point. He said the game could end quickly for either side, but he never said NP1.

I’ve been feeling that Pie was irrationally and unusually scared ever since he started to promote the idea of a VTNL, but this might be why. 

The only real way Pie can say that Lunatic said the game could end NP1 is, hear me out:

1. It were true.
2. It was privately confirmed to Pie.
3. That there is something potentially lethal to scum that Lunatic wanted to warn them about because he feels that it would otherwise be unfair; for example, a bomb.

That’s my new theory. In this context, a lot of the weird bacon from Pie that rubbed me the wrong way makes a lot more sense too.

VTL Pie
Mharman
Mharman's avatar
Debates: 23
Posts: 4,779
3
6
10
Mharman's avatar
Mharman
3
6
10
-->
@Barney
@whiteflame
@Discipulus_Didicit
@Savant
@WyIted
I think I found a scum slip, see above and lmk
Mharman
Mharman's avatar
Debates: 23
Posts: 4,779
3
6
10
Mharman's avatar
Mharman
3
6
10
-->
@Casey_Risk
@420-1776
See above
Mharman
Mharman's avatar
Debates: 23
Posts: 4,779
3
6
10
Mharman's avatar
Mharman
3
6
10
-->
@ILikePie5
???
Mharman
Mharman's avatar
Debates: 23
Posts: 4,779
3
6
10
Mharman's avatar
Mharman
3
6
10
-->
@Discipulus_Didicit
Oh, you’re also already looking at Pie more. Word. 
WyIted
WyIted's avatar
Debates: 28
Posts: 4,577
3
4
9
WyIted's avatar
WyIted
3
4
9
-->
@Savant
And town protective should 100% be on our only cop claim (whiteflame). We can sus him later if he fails to deliver results, but losing an investigative role like that is too big a loss, especially in a game that Luna says is very swingy.
Did everyone literally miss where I CCed him?

I didn't even say it is a perfect CC but it should be discussed
Discipulus_Didicit
Discipulus_Didicit's avatar
Debates: 9
Posts: 5,757
3
4
10
Discipulus_Didicit's avatar
Discipulus_Didicit
3
4
10
-->
@Mharman
Oh, you’re also already looking at Pie more. Word. 
Yup. New conspiracy theory just dropped... it's whiteflame and pie with pie pushing the no-lynch because he is defending his buddy.

I'm cool with lynching either one.
Discipulus_Didicit
Discipulus_Didicit's avatar
Debates: 9
Posts: 5,757
3
4
10
Discipulus_Didicit's avatar
Discipulus_Didicit
3
4
10
-->
@WyIted
Did everyone literally miss where I CCed him?
Not everyone. Literally only Savant missed it.
Mharman
Mharman's avatar
Debates: 23
Posts: 4,779
3
6
10
Mharman's avatar
Mharman
3
6
10
weird bacon from Pie 
Behavior*
Mharman
Mharman's avatar
Debates: 23
Posts: 4,779
3
6
10
Mharman's avatar
Mharman
3
6
10
-->
@WyIted
read what I said about the potential scum slip and lmk plz
Savant
Savant's avatar
Debates: 23
Posts: 1,966
3
7
6
Savant's avatar
Savant
3
7
6
-->
@WyIted
Oh wait I did miss that. What is your CC?

Savant
Savant's avatar
Debates: 23
Posts: 1,966
3
7
6
Savant's avatar
Savant
3
7
6
-->
@WyIted
"I might have a sort of cc" is just too vague.
WyIted
WyIted's avatar
Debates: 28
Posts: 4,577
3
4
9
WyIted's avatar
WyIted
3
4
9
-->
@Mharman
The problem? Lunatic never said that. I checked all of his posts up to that point. He said the game could end quickly for either side, but he never said NP1.I’ve been feeling that Pie was irrationally and unusually scared ever since he started to promote the idea of a VTNL, but this might be why. 

My brain personally does shortcuts like this


Lunatic- game could end early

Me- NP1 is early maybe it could end NP1

How I relay information might be

Me- lunatic said game could end on np1

I think it's just how the human brain works. We don't really remember what is said, but our interpretation of what is said. 

Even though I am guilty of this it does also piss me off when people do that with my words, because occasionally I slip off into telling things with layered meanings or something I say is more nuanced than the person hears.