Dissenting supreme court judge urges Biden to assassinate trump

Author: WyIted

Posts

Total: 188
Sidewalker
Sidewalker's avatar
Debates: 8
Posts: 2,669
3
2
5
Sidewalker's avatar
Sidewalker
3
2
5
l legal, and all justified if the President feels he is serving in his official capacity.
I think his feelings would be inconsequential to how a court would rule
The highest court already ruled, they authorized everything I said.
"How the court would rule" is completely inconsequential, the President has full immunity, and he has the military.

Sure, the judiciary has those cool hammers, but I still think the military can take them
Sidewalker
Sidewalker's avatar
Debates: 8
Posts: 2,669
3
2
5
Sidewalker's avatar
Sidewalker
3
2
5
-->
@WyIted
The highest court already ruled, they authorized everything I said.
I think the ruling was it had to be an official duty not that it had to feel like an official duty
You are really not following what this means at all. 

Yes, It has to be an official duty, and the President has full immunity from prosecution, so he will decide what his official duty is, and there are no consequences, he is legally immune, there will be no prosecution, nothing gets before the court, and the court doesn't get to have anything to say about it.

The Supreme Court just made a military dictatorship perfectly legal in the US, explicitly in support of a man who has declared that is what he will be on day one.  The one who's running a campaign of retribution and vengeance.

This country is fucked.




WyIted
WyIted's avatar
Debates: 32
Posts: 5,462
3
4
9
WyIted's avatar
WyIted
3
4
9
-->
@Sidewalker
The Supreme Court just made a military dictatorship perfectly legal in the US, explicitly in support of a man who has declared that is what he will be on day one.  The one who's running a campaign of retribution and vengeance.
This is why I can't take you seriously. He did not say day one. He only said on the first day and only the first day. The other lie is that you know this was taking a swipe at Biden for all his executive orders on day one (executive orders are dictatorial by definition)

Sidewalker
Sidewalker's avatar
Debates: 8
Posts: 2,669
3
2
5
Sidewalker's avatar
Sidewalker
3
2
5
-->
@WyIted
The Supreme Court just made a military dictatorship perfectly legal in the US, explicitly in support of a man who has declared that is what he will be on day one.  The one who's running a campaign of retribution and vengeance.
This is why I can't take you seriously. He did not say day one. He only said on the first day and only the first day.
The Supreme Court made it legal every day, after the first day what, we've all seen how Trump responds to transfer of power, I'm sure Trump would never break his word and decide to stay Dictator for life.  Whew, good thing we can trust his LOL....you guys crack me up.

The other lie is that you know this was taking a swipe at Biden for all his executive orders on day one (executive orders are dictatorial by definition)
Nope, I don't know shit about your lame ass distractions.  You and your clown brigade aren't going to gaslight me.
WyIted
WyIted's avatar
Debates: 32
Posts: 5,462
3
4
9
WyIted's avatar
WyIted
3
4
9
-->
@Sidewalker
The Supreme Court made it legal every day, after the first day what, we've all seen how Trump responds to transfer of power, I'm sure Trump would never break his word and decide to stay Dictator for life.  Whew, good thing we can trust his LOL....you guys crack me up.
so you are going to deny this was directed as a sarcastic statement about Biden's executive orders? https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/in-depth-here-are-the-17-executive-orders-joe-biden-issued-on-day-one/


Moozer325
Moozer325's avatar
Debates: 20
Posts: 1,186
3
2
8
Moozer325's avatar
Moozer325
3
2
8
-->
@WyIted
This just in, some democrats have said limited immunity means full immunity and have misinterpreted an easy to answer supreme court decision. 
There are stupid democrats and there are stupid republicans. You can’t judge either side by it’s worst.
Tidycraft
Tidycraft's avatar
Debates: 0
Posts: 135
0
2
4
Tidycraft's avatar
Tidycraft
0
2
4
-->
@WyIted
You can't be a check on other branches and not be above the law. Otherwise, your country would be simply ruled by a court of judges that are above the people that create laws and amendments. All your 3 branches are above the law at times and below it other times. You Americans don't even know your own system.
Discipulus_Didicit
Discipulus_Didicit's avatar
Debates: 9
Posts: 5,758
3
4
10
Discipulus_Didicit's avatar
Discipulus_Didicit
3
4
10
Maybe what I said in post 13 was wrong. Maybe you can't do better. Sad.
WyIted
WyIted's avatar
Debates: 32
Posts: 5,462
3
4
9
WyIted's avatar
WyIted
3
4
9
-->
@Discipulus_Didicit
You never countered my argument that Sotomayor should only be making a decision based on her interpretation of the intentions of the constitutions framers not trying to impose her morality on the decision by falsely claiming this could open up the ability to assassinate rivals. 

A lot of people said it is highly unlikely to be interpreted as a free pass to kill Trump
Discipulus_Didicit
Discipulus_Didicit's avatar
Debates: 9
Posts: 5,758
3
4
10
Discipulus_Didicit's avatar
Discipulus_Didicit
3
4
10
-->
@WyIted
falsely claiming this could open up the ability to assassinate rivals. 
Falsely?
WyIted
WyIted's avatar
Debates: 32
Posts: 5,462
3
4
9
WyIted's avatar
WyIted
3
4
9
-->
@Discipulus_Didicit
Well yes. Do you think the other 9 judges intend for that to be the result of their ruling?  Do you believe those judges think that will be a result of their decision?

Hell it's technically not even supposed to be considered because they are only supposed to consider original intent, but where do you get that they even believe that their decision Wil result in that?

Do you think these people are like mustache twirling villains because they seem to be pro life?
WyIted
WyIted's avatar
Debates: 32
Posts: 5,462
3
4
9
WyIted's avatar
WyIted
3
4
9
I am skimming through the decisions now and almost every judge is saying stuff about how it is not absolute immunity and if it is self interested acts that the would automatically fall outside of the scope, so Sotomayor claiming Biden can legally murder Trump appears incorrect 
Discipulus_Didicit
Discipulus_Didicit's avatar
Debates: 9
Posts: 5,758
3
4
10
Discipulus_Didicit's avatar
Discipulus_Didicit
3
4
10
-->
@WyIted
I still don't think Donald Trump's lawyer lied about that in official testimony like you claim but let's go back to the post where you first said that and what my response to that was.

You don't think that a political assassination could be argued to be part of a president’s role as commander in chief?
Not a domestic one.

Stephen Wermiel, a law professor specialising in the supreme court, said that such an action could be.

WyIted
WyIted's avatar
Debates: 32
Posts: 5,462
3
4
9
WyIted's avatar
WyIted
3
4
9
-->
@Discipulus_Didicit
I read the article he said it was ludicrous and highly unlikely but mentioned a possibility.  My impression is he thinks the possibility is infitesimally small
WyIted
WyIted's avatar
Debates: 32
Posts: 5,462
3
4
9
WyIted's avatar
WyIted
3
4
9
-->
@Discipulus_Didicit
This is what the article you are referencing says

A US president using the power of the state to kill political rivals and maintain his grip on power would be an unprecedented – and hugely unlikely – development.

Stephen Wermiel, a law professor specialising in the Supreme Court, said the notion was “preposterous”, but said proponents could argue it was covered by the president’s role as commander in chief.
He called it preposterous 
Discipulus_Didicit
Discipulus_Didicit's avatar
Debates: 9
Posts: 5,758
3
4
10
Discipulus_Didicit's avatar
Discipulus_Didicit
3
4
10
-->
@WyIted
I read the article he said it was ludicrous and highly unlikely but mentioned a possibility.  My impression is he thinks the possibility is infitesimally small

Stay on topic. You and I aren't talking about what is going to or likely to happen, we are talking about what the ruling does or does not allow. Do you disagree with this guy in the article you cited that the ruling allows this?
IwantRooseveltagain
IwantRooseveltagain's avatar
Debates: 0
Posts: 7,597
3
3
6
IwantRooseveltagain's avatar
IwantRooseveltagain
3
3
6
-->
@WyIted
There’s no interpretation necessary. They said the President needs immunity for all official acts.

If conspiring with the Justice Department to overturn an election is legal, basically turning our democracy into a dictatorship, then what’s the problem with killing one person. How can you put a higher value on one person over American Democracy?
IwantRooseveltagain
IwantRooseveltagain's avatar
Debates: 0
Posts: 7,597
3
3
6
IwantRooseveltagain's avatar
IwantRooseveltagain
3
3
6
-->
@Sidewalker
How the court would rule" is completely inconsequential, the President has full immunity, and he has the military.
Sure, the judiciary has those cool hammers, but I still think the military can take them
Biden, as President, could direct the military to kill the conservatives on the Supreme Court. It would be in his official capacity to protect the country.

IwantRooseveltagain
IwantRooseveltagain's avatar
Debates: 0
Posts: 7,597
3
3
6
IwantRooseveltagain's avatar
IwantRooseveltagain
3
3
6
-->
@WyIted
The evidence for this is a call with the Georgia official and he was recorded saying to find all the votes so that everyone's vote is counted.
There’s way more evidence than that. For example, he told the Justice Department to just declare the election was fraudulent and let the Republicans in Congress do the rest.

IwantRooseveltagain
IwantRooseveltagain's avatar
Debates: 0
Posts: 7,597
3
3
6
IwantRooseveltagain's avatar
IwantRooseveltagain
3
3
6
-->
@WyIted
Nope, nearly every speech where he says he wants to close the border he also mentions increasing legal immigration. 
Bullshit. He has said why can’t we get more immigrants from “non shithole countries”

IwantRooseveltagain
IwantRooseveltagain's avatar
Debates: 0
Posts: 7,597
3
3
6
IwantRooseveltagain's avatar
IwantRooseveltagain
3
3
6
-->
@WyIted
Not really true, and proven in case after case where there is false claims of this are exposed for what they are. 
Like George Floyd? 

WyIted
WyIted's avatar
Debates: 32
Posts: 5,462
3
4
9
WyIted's avatar
WyIted
3
4
9
-->
@IwantRooseveltagain
Bullshit. He has said why can’t we get more immigrants from “non shithole countries”
It's a fair question. The average IQ in Somalia is like 65. It doesn't benefit the United States much. Ideally you just important doctors and engineers with IQs in the top 1%
IwantRooseveltagain
IwantRooseveltagain's avatar
Debates: 0
Posts: 7,597
3
3
6
IwantRooseveltagain's avatar
IwantRooseveltagain
3
3
6
-->
@WyIted
Plus if they really cared they would increase funding for better training and to recruit higher quality candidates but instead they promote defending the police. And giving their funding to social service workers or something.
The Obama Administration did just that, money to train cops not to be racist and engage in police brutality and Trump defunded it.

IwantRooseveltagain
IwantRooseveltagain's avatar
Debates: 0
Posts: 7,597
3
3
6
IwantRooseveltagain's avatar
IwantRooseveltagain
3
3
6
-->
@WyIted
Not true, my platform actually deviates from those sources 
What exactly is your platform or source of information? Tim Pool?

WyIted
WyIted's avatar
Debates: 32
Posts: 5,462
3
4
9
WyIted's avatar
WyIted
3
4
9
-->
@Discipulus_Didicit
Stay on topic. You and I aren't talking about what is going to or likely to happen, we are talking about what the ruling does or does not allow. Do you disagree with this guy in the article you cited that the ruling allows this?
I concede he did insinuate there was a 1 in a million chance some retard could interpret it that way and get away with it. 

Here is the quote where he said the chances are essentially so small it is not worth considering.

A US president using the power of the state to kill political rivals and maintain his grip on power would be an unprecedented – and hugely unlikely – development. Stephen Wermiel, a law professor specialising in the Supreme Court, said the notion was “preposterous”,
WyIted
WyIted's avatar
Debates: 32
Posts: 5,462
3
4
9
WyIted's avatar
WyIted
3
4
9
If he thinks it is preposterous to think it has any possibility of happening then to me it sounds like he is saying the ruling will not and should not be interpreted that way
IwantRooseveltagain
IwantRooseveltagain's avatar
Debates: 0
Posts: 7,597
3
3
6
IwantRooseveltagain's avatar
IwantRooseveltagain
3
3
6
-->
@WyIted
Yep there is the programming. Even the phrase "big lie" which Hitler used to describe Jewish tactics. I guess Maga and Trump are the new jews so these false convictions are fine as are laws banning free speech etc.
Do you think Hitler was a victim of free speech bans? Wrong. Trump is the new Hitler. MAGA MORONS are the idiots who followed Hitler into a fiery path of total destruction 

WyIted
WyIted's avatar
Debates: 32
Posts: 5,462
3
4
9
WyIted's avatar
WyIted
3
4
9
-->
@IwantRooseveltagain
What exactly is your platform or source of information? Tim Pool?
So you know how you just agree with the democratic party platform entirely without deviating.

Pro abortion
Pro welfare state
Pro abortion
Pro tranny stuff
Pro racial quotas

I would have a nuanced view of topics. For example, while you blindly just accept those ideals without critical thought

I deviate from the party in a few ways

The republican party is okay with gerry wandering school districts. I think they should cut that out 

The republican party is usually against bam the box initiatives and I think they are a good ideal.

It's a bit different t. You should look at an issue from a few different angles instead of just blindly following Cenk Unger and CNN
IwantRooseveltagain
IwantRooseveltagain's avatar
Debates: 0
Posts: 7,597
3
3
6
IwantRooseveltagain's avatar
IwantRooseveltagain
3
3
6
-->
@WyIted
A report from the Election Integrity Partnership (EIP) said that Pool was a "superspreader" of fake newssurrounding voter fraud before and after the 2020 United States presidential election.[59]

So your idea of credible news source is a 38 year old high school dropout who wears a beanie. I guess if he wore a pinwheel hat you would consider him an expert on international relations. 

You are a pathetic example of an American citizen unable to exercise critical thinking skills.
WyIted
WyIted's avatar
Debates: 32
Posts: 5,462
3
4
9
WyIted's avatar
WyIted
3
4
9
-->
@IwantRooseveltagain
Do you think Hitler was a victim of free speech bans? Wrong. Trump is the new Hitler. MAGA MORONS are the idiots who followed Hitler into a fiery path of total destruction 
Hitler was against free speech. He would do what the Democrats did and try to shut down dissent on social media sites but his platform is remarkably similar

1. Hitler wanted to ban guns
2. Hitler believed in hiring people not because of their merit but because of their skin color
3. Hitler was an economic intervention is
4. Hitler was Pro choice
5. Hitler was for socialized medicine.

The platforms are almost identical, but the tactics are eerily similar such as the bans on free speech. Some kids recently were charged with a felony for doing a peel out on some gay pride graffiti that was on the street for example. Usually peel outs are not that illegal just a fine but because of the symbol being akin to something like a religious symbol the kids were dealt with. 

You also have the judicial system being used against political opponents etc.