*least as in least scummy
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@Moozer325
I honestly forget why it's not a town read but we have overlap with lunatic. Maybe it could be what we look at next.
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@WyIted
I'm also fine Lynching Savant BTW. Luna's just in the PoE because of inactivity. Same with Earth mostly. I can't town read you or scum read you if you give me nothing to go on.
Honestly I only want to vote savant due to role l. Behaviorally he feels town to me. I am scared to say that because I don't want to be embarrassed later but I guess my real POE pool is joebob lunatic and pie. Pie I would also feel uncomfortable lynching because when he is scum usually it is more obvious to me
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@Moozer325
That's what I got. I want to town read everyone but luna and joebob are absent and I honestly think joebobs interactions are worse than lunatics at the momwnt
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@Moozer325
For those who still believe I am scum, just know that this is what you have to buy:
- Austin gave a scum the power to steal someone's vote at any time and hammer a player or steal the shirt, giving them an extra night kill or he allowed a scum player to use their role before the first day phase (as if it was a night phase), which is not how mafia works—this game does not have secret night phases.
- As scum, I somehow assumed my role would confirm me as town and gave up the chance to secretly hammer someone or secretly steal the shirt.
But if you are willing to believe both of those things, then by all means lynch me. Then, if I am revealed innocent (which I will be) lynch Pie. But enough talk. Let's get this party started.
VTL Pie
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@WyIted
Did you read the Invincible game where Pie is scum? He did the same thing to Barney that he's doing to me here.
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@Savant
No, your points are valid, it's just PoE for me at this point. I might be open to a Earth Lynch or something. There's almost no activity there.
Vote count:
Pie (2/5): Savant, Earth
Earth continues to run around, looking for his lost vote.
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@Savant
No but I will read it
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@Moozer325
Earth also seems to be ignoring everything I said about my role, but I just have less of a feel overall about him. Getting Pie's role seems like a low-risk move since he's going to "reveal" it tomorrow anyway.
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@Savant
Okay fine, I won't vote for you, but do you really have to try and Lynch Pie? We might be able to agree on someone in the PoE pool. I'm offering a compromise. Pie is a little scummy (like 3% scummy), but there are other people I want to go for more. It looks a bit like an OMGUS from you.
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@Savant
Wait, I forgot Pie was confirmable, so I would say he's more like 0.05% scummy, so we can both agree that there are much better options than someone who says they are confirmable next DP
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@Moozer325
I'm open to compromising solely for the sake of practicality. But I will still suspect Pie in later day phases unless he actually confirms his role and it's a town-aligned one.
But if you can give a good case for someone else and rally people to it, I will consider switching my vote.
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@Moozer325
Maybe push Earth for his role now. I'm likely to be accused of OMGUS for that, but no one else stands out as scummy.
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@WyIted
Is Pie usually this inactive? Like if he's town, why has he not responded to any of my points about my role? Why did he push me hard and then disappear when there wasn't pressure on him?
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@Savant
No one really stands out. I'll vote for anyone in my PoE pool. Joebob, Earth Lunatic, are all good to me. They're just not active enough for me to make an informed decision, so we kinda have no choice.
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@Savant
I'd give him a pass. He says he's on vacation.
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@Moozer325
He says he's on vacation.
Ok, that might explain it (not that it means I won't vote him later). For now, pressuring Earth for his role seems like the best move.
VTL Earth
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@Savant
Earth also seems to be ignoring everything I said about my role, but I just have less of a feel overall about him. Getting Pie's role seems like a low-risk move since he's going to "reveal" it tomorrow anyway.
You stole his vote. It might annoy him
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@Earth
Role, plz
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@Savant
I think we should, at least wait for him to get online so he can defend himself.
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@WyIted
You stole his vote. It might annoy him
That's possible, but I still think if he was town he would put more thought into a lynch than that.
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@Moozer325
Yeah, I'm not going to hammer him yet, just pressure him.
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@Savant
Is Pie usually this inactive? Like if he's town, why has he not responded to any of my points about my role? Why did he push me hard and then disappear when there wasn't pressure on him?
From my stalking he crosses me as a recent grad trying to get into a highly competitive industry while his family simultaneously leans on him.hard to help run the family business. He may be busy
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@Savant
That's possible, but I still think if he was town he would put more thought into a lynch than that.
If it was me I would be pretty pissed and gunning for your lynch even if I thought you were town, on principle alone. I would however merely pretend I scum read you to cover for the anger
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@WyIted
Also, does my role really strike you as possible scum given everything I said here? You said it's the only reason you would lynch me, but it seems more like a reason not to lynch me.
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@WyIted
If it was me I would be pretty pissed and gunning for your lynch
I wouldn't. We don't know exactly why Earth wants to lynch me (seemingly without a good reason), so getting his role at least seems like a good move.
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@Savant
I have played in a lot of games and I have only ever seen it as a scum role. You are using some sort of logic here but my experience suggests otherwise. Personally I would use it to balance something like popular or lynch proof. Admittedly my games are not that great though.
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@WyIted
Yeah but has scum ever had this version of the role where they could steal anyone's vote at any time and hammer with it? Without locking in whose vote they're going to steal the previous night? You have to see how that would break the game.