Neither Biden nor Trump is ideal, but Biden is preferable to Trump

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This is the fourm where SocraticGregarian96, myself, and others if they so choose can post about why they prefer one over the other.  I prefer Biden to Trump.
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Biden:
  1. Did not do Jan 6
  2. Is not a convicted felon
For anyone valuing law and order, these are very strong positives.  You have said that you lean left, so I will say some things about Biden that would appeal to a left winger
  1. Biden respects women enough to not commit adultery to his wife anytime she is pregnant with a porn star.  Biden is more feminist in this respect.
  2. Biden is less of a racist than Trump is.  Biden's most racist thing that he's done recently; generalized when he said if you vote for Trump, then you aren't black.  The racist stuff Trump did:
    1. Advocated for deporting undocumented immigrants from our southern border and by supporting a border wall there.  Keep in mind, the US doesn't have a border wall along our Canadian border (because Canada is stereotypically white).  But our Mexican border is different.  He says it's because the undocumented immigrants are rapists and drug dealers (the, "some I assume are good people" saved him).  Full disclaimer; if Trump said, "Most of the undocumented immigrants I'm certain are totally fine, but there are a few murderers and rapists in your group and we need to keep them out", then it wouldn't be racist.  But he didn't say "most I'm certain" are good people.  He said, "some I assume" are good people.  To claim the majority of undocumented immigrants are rapists and drug dealers is just sheer ignorance.
    2. Claiming we need people from Norway and not from Haiti.  I think the more people that want to come to America, the better.  His argument, "Norway is rich while Haiti is poor".  Does Trump prefer Russian immigrants or Qatar immigrants?  Trump talks more favorably about Russia than he does Qatar; so I would assume he prefers Russians (poor and white) over Qatar (rich and brown).  He can't say, "They are poor, therefore they shouldn't belong here" because many of Trump's supporters are poor.  He says Haiti is a bad place to live so he doesn't want their people.  This would be like saying the trailer park is a shithole so don't accept redneck travelers into NYC.
But Biden deported more than Trump
True.  But if Trump didn't run for POTUS, then Biden probably wouldn't have deported half what he did because a huge anti undocumented bias wouldn't exist in the US.

I'm curious as to why you believe Trump is better than Biden.

Virtually everyone that likes Trump I believe just likes the vibes of Trump, not any policies he did.  Trump is not the same as Hitler; the former never did a genocide.  But I love the vibes of Hitler (just as I do Trump).  It doesn't mean I would vote for them.  To me, Hitler speeches and Trump speeches are entertainment; I know better than to vote for him.

You can love the vibes of Trump while having enough sense to not vote for him.  Trump has great vibes and charisma, but he doesn't belong in the white house.
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Trump’s policies are better
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Which ones?

Do you like his policies?  Or do you only like his vibes?
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Which ones?

The ones Biden stole, like keeping the tax cuts, and suddenly deciding to secure the border months before the election.

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Which ones?

Do you like his policies?  Or do you only like his vibes?
Immigration, tax cuts, foreign policy, trade
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Immigration, tax cuts, foreign policy, trade
  1. America should be run like a business.  Buisinesses don’t care if you are documented or not; they just want your money.  This country should be run the same way and this means end deportations; have our borders be as open as the Harley Davidson buisiness is, and use massive population growth to grow our GDP to stay ahead of China.
  2. You support tax cuts.  What spending cuts do you support in order to make your tax cuts for the globalists a reality?
  3. What particular foreign policy are you referring to?  His Israeli foreign policy is not putting America first, so I don’t approve (same with Ukraine).
  4. I believe in capitalism and the free market; I therefore oppose tariffs on any country that both (does not use child slavery) and (does not have marital rape legalized in that country).  But other than that, I believe in capitalism, free markets, and free trade Bill Clinton style.

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The ones Biden stole, like keeping the tax cuts, and suddenly deciding to secure the border months before the election.
What government spending are you willing to cut to make your tax cuts a reality?  

Immigration: America should be run like a business.  Buisinesses don’t care if you are documented or not; they just want your money.  This country should be run the same way and this means end deportations; have our borders be as open as the Harley Davidson buisiness is, and use massive population growth to grow our GDP to stay ahead of China.
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  1. America should be run like a business.  Buisinesses don’t care if you are documented or not; they just want your money.  This country should be run the same way and this means end deportations; have our borders be as open as the Harley Davidson buisiness is, and use massive population growth to grow our GDP to stay ahead of China.
That’s irrelevant to the quality of life Americans currently have that will suffer. Not to mention that most that come are low skilled laborers who will solely provide cheap labor. And if your hypothesis is true then businesses wouldn’t pass down costs. Either way, it goes against common sense that we wouldn’t have a border while every other nation does. Sole disarmament never works. Period.

  1. You support tax cuts.  What spending cuts do you support in order to make your tax cuts for the globalists a reality?
Cut foreign aid. Cut the Department of Education. Let social security and Medicare collapse under its own weight, so the band aid gets ripped off.

  1. What particular foreign policy are you referring to?  His Israeli foreign policy is not putting America first, so I don’t approve (same with Ukraine).
His policy is not having war. He will end the war in Ukraine. End the war in Israel. Hell he will not get into any other wars. 

  1. I believe in capitalism and the free market; I therefore oppose tariffs on any country that both (does not use child slavery) and (does not have marital rape legalized in that country).  But other than that, I believe in capitalism, free markets, and free trade Bill Clinton style.
You believe in capitalism and the free market, but other countries don’t. So again, why should we be the only country that’s idiotic and gets ripped off, while other countries don’t. Free trade is great…if it’s actually free and other countries don’t tariff us.
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If Trump loses, it'll probably spell the death of political pluralism in America. If he wins, political pluralism will survive. Even if he doesn't do a good job as president in his second term, the survival of political pluralism is worth this in the long run.

Let me explain:

In June 2015, Trump announced his candidacy. His brash rhetorical style aside, his underlying ideas did for the most part have objective merit and weren't radical. The US has unequal trade arrangements with many countries. Most NATO member states weren't spending enough on defense, which the 2022 Russian invasion decisively proved in hindsight. The Obama Administration had indeed bungled the Arab Spring and sent a huge wave of migrants into Europe. Stopping illegal immigration, while allowing legal immigration, is something a moderate can get behind, and per a March-April 2024 poll a whopping 42% of DEMOCRATS support mass deportations.


In short, Trump deserved to be taken seriously. And don't go crying about Jan. 6 or hush money payments, because at this time he was accused of basically nothing, aside from having multiple divorces and filing for bankruptcy in the 1990s. Neither was relevant in 2015; the Moral Majority's push to Christianize America had all but died, and it was accepted by almost everyone that a secular personality could be president for either party. The bankruptcies did reflect poorly on him at the time they were happening, but he was evidently competent enough to save his company and his fortune, so that by 2015 he was a multi-billionaire again.

Weighing the above, it seems that in a fair world, America's most influential figures should've been split, with some supporting Trump and others opposing Trump. Instead, they nigh-unanimously opposed him and did everything in their power to keep him from getting elected. This mass collusion, and cynical weaponization of every institution the public once trusted to tell them the truth against Donald Trump, reveals the existence of a vast politico-social machinery in America.

I often refer to its members as oligarchs, which IMO fits the bill because at this point we're not super different from Putinist Russia. The oligarchs want a single governing ideology, which given the refusal of Republicans to kneel to it means a one-party state, over America. They would control the party behind the scenes, and they would be the esteemed champions and spokespersons of party-sanctioned ideas. As we speak they are tightening the noose around the average person, demanding ever stricter and stricter purity tests, so that now you're a "bad person" for watching films with wrongthink content, for playing video games associated with wrongthinking producers or authors, for trying to keep a neutral stance on Israel-Gaza or being indifferent about politics, for saying "all lives matter" and believing it, for being upset because your only son just cut his testicles off, and so on. The rightist intellectual Curtis Yarvin has dubbed this emergent status quo the "Cathedral", and it certainly resembles the medieval Catholic Church albeit without any God. It has its high priests and its bloodthirsty inquisitions, its patronage of the state and its liturgy-like group rituals.

Anyway, as much as I hate the left, it wouldn't be so bad if they were one of two factions in American politics, one of two camps your average American was born into. When ideas are pitted against each other and neither can dominate, you achieve a sort of livable balance where moderation eventually prevails and people learn to coexist.
The alternative is a de facto theocracy. This is what we'll get if Trump loses, because the oligarchs will seize this opportunity to smash the Republican Party. The techniques they've honed against Trump, such as lawfare and the threat of imprisonment for phony or at least petty charges not warranting more than a misdemeanor and a fine, will be employed against other Republicans in the future, should they prove successful against Trump.
Furthermore, at this point they've made thousands of allegations of "bad stuff" against Trump, ranging from speech only a jerk would utter to committing literal rape. I believe that if Trump loses and his life gets wrecked post-election, these allegations will be believed by most Americans going forward. It will tarnish the Republican name, and this will be all anyone remembers about Trump. Not the booming pre-Covid economy or the stable foreign affairs situation. Just...Stormy Daniels, January 6, and supposedly being a white supremacist. That'll be pretty much it.

But more importantly, the Biden Administration will continue to let illegal immigrants into the United States. This will have consequences in 2030 for Congressional reapportionment, and in the long run either they or their children will be eligible to vote in US Federal and state elections, where they'll vote like 90% Democrat so they enjoy a patron-client relationship with the party that let them get away with staying in this country illegally. These elections will be morally illegitimate, but legally binding, so the GOP will disappear.


If Trump wins, it won't make the oligarchs disappear. Trump is nowhere near powerful enough for that. It MIGHT, however, force them to reconsider their political alignment. Trump winning once was a fluke. But if he won again in 2024, after the avalanche of capital they sunk into burying him, then they'll realize that Republicans with similar ideas to Trump will remain politically viable in the future. In this event, some will defect to the Republican side, or hedge their bets between the two parties.
The oligarchs will not be united anymore, and so they'll be unable to totally determine the future of America. It's not exactly freedom for us but it would be a far less bleak future than if he loses. If you want the normalcy you've known your whole life to continue, then vote for Trump.
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That’s irrelevant to the quality of life Americans currently have that will suffer.
How would Americans have a worse quality of life due to more customers coming here?

Not to mention that most that come are low skilled laborers who will solely provide cheap labor. 
The GDP per capita of undocumented immigrants (with all the job restrictions that they deal with) is comparable to the Canadian GDP per capita.  Canada is not a poor country.

And if your hypothesis is true then businesses wouldn’t pass down costs. 
What does it mean to pass down costs?  Companies make a profit margin of a comparable amount whether there are more or less people in the US, but they make more profit due to more people buying their stuff and more of their stuff being produced, creating more jobs.

Either way, it goes against common sense that we wouldn’t have a border while every other nation does. 
Every other country in the world is based on an ethnicity; America is based on an idea; Liberty.  This is what makes America the greatest country in the world.

Cut foreign aid. Cut the Department of Education.
I agree, but this will raise little revenue for the federal government compared to the deficit.

 Let social security and Medicare collapse under its own weight, so the band aid gets ripped off.
You've just lost the elderly vote (who normally goes republican).  We are keeping social security, and that's what Trump said.

His policy is not having war. He will end the war in Ukraine. End the war in Israel. 
Trump wants us involved with Israel, but you are right on Ukrainian interventionism.

 Free trade is great…if it’s actually free and other countries don’t tariff us.
Yes; free trade should be mutual.
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How would Americans have a worse quality of life due to more customers coming here?
Quality of care will decrease. More low skilled workers, same amount of doctors = worse care

The GDP per capita of undocumented immigrants (with all the job restrictions that they deal with) is comparable to the Canadian GDP per capita.  Canada is not a poor country.

Low skilled Americans can increase the GDP will higher wages.

What does it mean to pass down costs?  Companies make a profit margin of a comparable amount whether there are more or less people in the US, but they make more profit due to more people buying their stuff and more of their stuff being produced, creating more jobs.
Again, why don’t they do that in their own nations?

Every other country in the world is based on an ethnicity; America is based on an idea; Liberty.  This is what makes America the greatest country in the world.
America has laws and sovereignty. By definition, if you accept everyone then America becomes more like Latin America. There has to be balance, not just allow people to pour in. As for liberty, why can they not do that in their own nation?

I agree, but this will raise little revenue for the federal government compared to the deficit.
It’ll make a dent. Discretionary spending is still 30-40% of the budget. 

You've just lost the elderly vote (who normally goes republican).  We are keeping social security, and that's what Trump said.
Do you even know how social security works? It will eventually become insolvent, which is when it will have to be reformed. Let it run on until it becomes insolvent, then people will realize.

Trump wants us involved with Israel, but you are right on Ukrainian interventionism.
Trump has said he wants Israel to end the war quickly. Not the US. Israel. Right now Biden is actively hindering Israeli operations because of “muh human rights.”

Yes; free trade should be mutual.
So you agree we need tariffs until other countries agree to remove their tariffs. Great—vote for Trump
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I don’t have problems with his age like anyone else, my main problem is that he’s too moderate, but definitely better than trump.
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I don’t have problems with his age like anyone else, my main problem is that he’s too moderate, but definitely better than trump.
How is he better?
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His policies and Ideas align more with mine than Trump’s do.
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His policies and Ideas align more with mine than Trump’s do.
Such as? Lemme guess: you think climate change is the biggest problem America has right now
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Maybe not yet, but it’s definitely up there. In about a decade or two, it will be the biggest problem that the world faces. I also don’t like the relationship that trump has with Putin, and Trumps attitude towards the border has also been very inhumane. Biden hasn’t been great on many of these fronts, but has been better.
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Maybe not yet, but it’s definitely up there. In about a decade or two, it will be the biggest problem that the world faces.
You know what’s funny? Al Gore and the Democrats said the exact same thing in 2000. It’s been two decades.

I also don’t like the relationship that trump has with Putin,
Do you think Putin would have invaded Ukraine if Trump was President? No. Do you think Biden is a stronger leader than Trump? Who do you trust more to keep Americans safe from our foreign adversaries?

and Trumps attitude towards the border has also been very inhumane. Biden hasn’t been great on many of these fronts, but has been better.
Inhumane? Did you know the Biden administration has continued the child separation policy at the border? The very same thing Biden criticized Trump of? Do you think it’s inhumane to deport violent criminals instead of releasing them into the US with a court date and no way to track them? Do you think Biden and the Democrats are responsible for the Ecuadorian illegal alien who kidnapped and raped a 13 year old in broad daylight? The same illegal who had prior minor convictions that were just given a slap on the wrist because of the policies of the NYC City Council and DA. Give me a break. 
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You know what’s funny? Al Gore and the Democrats said the exact same thing in 2000. It’s been two decades.
Yeah, but it has gotten worse, no? We are starting to see very real signs of the climate turning, and even if it's not totally top of our minds right now, we still need to do something about it.

Do you think Putin would have invaded Ukraine if Trump was President?
Frankly, Putin would have "done whatever he wants". You can't say that one of Putin's best friends when it comes to world leaders would have stopped him doing something. Trump still maintains that Putin can "do whatever he wants", so why would you think the opposite?

Inhumane? Did you know the Biden administration has continued the child separation policy at the border? ...
Exactly what I'm saying! I hate Biden for this, but at least he's slightly better than Trump. He isn't going to build a wall and force Mexico to pay for it, (why did anyone think that was going to happen?), and whatever Biden is continuing, Trump did worse and will do worse if elected.
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Yeah, but it has gotten worse, no? We are starting to see very real signs of the climate turning, and even if it's not totally top of our minds right now, we still need to do something about it.
They said we’d be underwater by now. It’s fear mongering. Innovation is how we solve this, not cancelling coal prematurely.

Frankly, Putin would have "done whatever he wants". You can't say that one of Putin's best friends when it comes to world leaders would have stopped him doing something. Trump still maintains that Putin can "do whatever he wants", so why would you think the opposite?
Let’s see Putin’s history. Obama presidency, takes Crimea. Trump presidency, takes nothing. Biden presidency, invades Ukraine. Putin can do whatever he wants, but he knows Trump isn’t weak like the other two clowns.

Exactly what I'm saying! I hate Biden for this, but at least he's slightly better than Trump.
I love how you ignore my rape example. Biden brought back catch and release. Biden eliminated Remain in Mexico. Biden ended Title 42. Under Trump, the border was the safest and most secure it had been. 

He isn't going to build a wall and force Mexico to pay for it, (why did anyone think that was going to happen?), and whatever Biden is continuing, Trump did worse and will do worse if elected.
Well Mexico did indirectly pay for it—via the tariffs. And no, Trump will end Biden’s open borders policy and close the border by reimplementing remain in Mexico and ending catch and release. What “worse” will Trump do? Build a wall to give Border Patrol enough time to apprehend the crossers? The same wall that they as the experts have said they want countless times? But ofc Biden is smarter than the people who do this on a day to day basis as a full time job. It’s ridiculous.
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One thing to note first, I’m relatively left-leaning in my policies. (For example, I am pro-cheap healthcare)But I got a job and another debate on here, so I’ll keep this quick:

When I go to the grocery store to buy eggs and milk and the prices are higher than they were under trump, My vote says Trump

When I turn on the news and see biden falling off another staircase, My vote says Trump

When my dollar is worth less than it was under Trump, my vote says trump

When there are fewer wars and we aren’t going into trillions of dollars in debt for foreign countries, my vote says trump.

When Millions of illegal aliens are flowing through our southern border, my vote says trump

When stores are shutting down and in CA you can steal up to $900, my vote says trump

When Biden takes crack to seem somewhat senile, and is pedophilic with children, my vote says trump

When it’s hard to find a job and wages are cheaper and when I do make the money, it’s worth less. Then my vote says trump.

When he embarrasses our troops in taliban, like truman did with vietnam, my vote says trump

When Trump wants to make america great, and biden wants to enforce stupid identity politics and DEI and just keep bending the knee to woke garbage, my vote says trump.

When Biden is controlled by Obama and all the other puppetmasters, my vote says trump.

When Trump makes great speeches and biden mumbles, my vote says trump.

When Trump is strong (for his age) and Biden is weak, my vote says trump

Trump can be extreme on some stuff, and he says some stupid crap (norway and haiti), But I hoenstly don’t give a crap, he did a much better job as POTUS.

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One more thing about the Border btw. 

There are a reported 7.2 million illegals that have crossed the border under biden. And when you look at all the interviews of ICE, that’s an extremely conservative estimate. 

Anyways, let’s use that number just for kicks. If even 1% of those people commit a homicide, even just once, we have 70+ thousand killers on our hands. To put that into perspective, there have been about only 5000 killings from gun violence this year (as of Feb.’24). Who knows how many of those are illegals?

How many more Laken Rileys will have to be killed in order to secure the border. And don’t tell me Biden is trying to close the border. We both know that’s bullshit to get more votes.
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Biden is a zombie. How can a zombie rule a super power country like the US? 🤣
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If Trump loses, it'll probably spell the death of political pluralism in America. If he wins, political pluralism will survive. Even if he doesn't do a good job as president in his second term, the survival of political pluralism is worth this in the long run.
Definition of political pluralism:

Pluralism as a political philosophy is the diversity within a political body, which is seen to permit the peaceful coexistence of different interests, convictions, and lifestyles.
This label only applies to libertarians.  If your lifestyle is getting abortions every Sunday, then the right would not accept that (and they shouldn't) but political pluralism is not unconditionally good or bad.

As we speak they are tightening the noose around the average person, demanding ever stricter and stricter purity tests, so that now you're a "bad person" for watching films with wrongthink content
If Big Tech wanted to censor conservatives, then nobody would know who Ben Shapiro is because he would have been banned before he became famous.  Big tech has a vested interest actually in censoring leftists because the more people vote red, the more republicans are in power and therefore, the lower Big Tech's taxes can be.

 for trying to keep a neutral stance on Israel-Gaza or being indifferent about politics
This doesn't get you censored.

 for saying "all lives matter" and believing it, for being upset because your only son just cut his testicles off, and so on
And neither does this.

But saying, "From the River to the sea, Palestine will be free" will get you censored on X.  I don't even care about Israel/Palestine, but people should have the right to state pro Palestine views.

 This is what we'll get if Trump loses, because the oligarchs will seize this opportunity to smash the Republican Party.
Trump lost in 2020.  Why didn't the oligarchs smash the GOP right now?  You think the oligarchs are going to smash the party that keep their taxes low?

 It will tarnish the Republican name, and this will be all anyone remembers about Trump. 
Why do you care if the GOP name gets tarnished?  It's not your name.  It's the name of an organization.  It would be like me caring if my school's name gets tarnished; there is a school in my area that had a teacher rape an underage student; that school's name is tarnished.  But you aren't shamed upon simply by you going to that school.  You want to clean up the GOP image?  Then get rid of Trump.

But more importantly, the Biden Administration will continue to let illegal immigrants into the United States. This will have consequences in 2030 for Congressional reapportionment, and in the long run either they or their children will be eligible to vote in US Federal and state elections, where they'll vote like 90% Democrat so they enjoy a patron-client relationship with the party that let them get away with staying in this country illegally. 
What is wrong with immigrants being more likely to be democrat (or republican)?  Like what's the worst that would happen?  So what if the person living in the white house is more likely to have a D next to their name?  How does that objectively make anything worse?  If you want immigrants to vote republican, then stop threatening to deport their families and they would be more willing to vote republican.  Until that happens, prepare for a blue waive.

BTW, this idea of deporting undocumented immigrants is a contradiction of when you claimed Trump supports political pluralism because undocumented immigrants have being undocumented as part of their lifestyle.
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But saying, "From the River to the sea, Palestine will be free" will get you censored on X. I don't even care about Israel/Palestine, but people should have the right to state pro Palestine views.
If you looked into the history of the phrase you know that is a call for the genocide of every jew in Israel and giving the land to Palestinians. 

It's pretty obvious that platforms will censor calls for genocide
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Quality of care will decrease. More low skilled workers, same amount of doctors = worse care
More low skilled workers, roughly proportional amount of doctors = same care.  You want more doctors?  Then make medical degrees free so people are more willing to become doctors.  Raising taxes on the globalists can help pay for this.

Low skilled Americans can increase the GDP will higher wages.
Yes, and so can workers that want to move here.  Why not both?

Again, why don’t they do that in their own nations?
Definition of Group A: Indians in India, Nigerians in Nigeria, etc.

Definition of Group B: Indian Americans in America, Nigerian Americans in Nigeria, etc.

For every $1 someone from group A earns, someone from Group B earns about $4-5.

People earn more when allowed to live in America.


America has laws and sovereignty.
So change the laws.  How would our sovereignty be threatened by abolishing ICE?

 By definition, if you accept everyone then America becomes more like Latin America. 
Latin American countries don't have open borders.  In fact, Latin American countries didn't even unite; American states did.  Latin America is tougher on immigration than America is.  They shouldn't be, but they are.

As for liberty, why can they not do that in their own nation?
Too much government red tape in their own nation.  America has much less government red tape.  Too strict gun laws, making gun ownership rare and thieves more likely to take your stuff.

It’ll make a dent. Discretionary spending is still 30-40% of the budget. 
So what discretionary spending do you want to cut to balance the budget?

Let it run on until it becomes insolvent, then people will realize.
If this happens, then a lot of erldely people would die due to lack of social security.  Everyone who is on social security should stay on it for the rest of their lives.

Trump has said he wants Israel to end the war quickly. Not the US. Israel. Right now Biden is actively hindering Israeli operations because of “muh human rights.”
Israel ending the war would be the same as Israel hindering it's operations.

So you agree we need tariffs until other countries agree to remove their tariffs. Great—vote for Trump
NAFTA and TPP made free trade more expansive and mutual; I heard Trump ended it.  We need like a GFTA (Global Free Trade Agreement) between all the nations in the world that don't have child slavery or legal marital rape.
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When I go to the grocery store to buy eggs and milk and the prices are higher than they were under trump, My vote says Trump
Infation exists and it's the federal reserve that does that, not any POTUS directly.

When I turn on the news and see biden falling off another staircase, My vote says Trump
We've had POTUSes in wheelchairs before.  I've fallen before.  Biden might be mentally incompetent; but then he's being controlled.  Lets say it's Jill Biden that's controlling him.

Treat the election as Jill Biden vs Donald Trump.

When there are fewer wars and we aren’t going into trillions of dollars in debt for foreign countries, my vote says trump.
Trump and Biden both got us deeper in debt.  I don't like either one of them.

When Millions of illegal aliens are flowing through our southern border, my vote says trump
Ice should be abolished and the US should open our borders in the name of running the country like a business.  Businesses don't care if you are documented or not, they just want your money.  This country should be run the same way.  If the business can make money, then it's borders are 100% open.

When stores are shutting down and in CA you can steal up to $900, my vote says trump
This is an argument against Newsom.  Like, I hate Trump and Newsom.

When Biden takes crack to seem somewhat senile, and is pedophilic with children, my vote says trump
If sniffing children's hair is pedophillia, then my Dad is a pedophille.  The only thing that should be illegal regarding pedophillia is having sex with children.

When it’s hard to find a job and wages are cheaper and when I do make the money, it’s worth less. Then my vote says trump.
The unemployment rate went down under Obama, Trump, and Biden.  The GDP per capita has consistently gone up.

When Trump wants to make america great, and biden wants to enforce stupid identity politics and DEI and just keep bending the knee to woke garbage, my vote says trump.
What is Trump's plan to make america great?  Affirmitive Action got repealed under Biden's presidency and it's not the law in any state (not even California where Affirmitive Action lost the vote).

When Trump makes great speeches and biden mumbles, my vote says trump.

When Trump is strong (for his age) and Biden is weak, my vote says trump
Both presidents have made speeches.  I don't know how strong physically each POTUS is.  Trump is definitely fatter, but he could have more muscle.

One more thing about the Border btw. 

There are a reported 7.2 million illegals that have crossed the border under biden. And when you look at all the interviews of ICE, that’s an extremely conservative estimate. 

Anyways, let’s use that number just for kicks. If even 1% of those people commit a homicide, even just once, we have 70+ thousand killers on our hands. To put that into perspective, there have been about only 5000 killings from gun violence this year (as of Feb.’24). Who knows how many of those are illegals?

How many more Laken Rileys will have to be killed in order to secure the border. And don’t tell me Biden is trying to close the border. We both know that’s bullshit to get more votes.
Far fewer than 1% of undocumented immigrants are murderers.

The undocumented might be more or less likely to commit murder as the native born depending on the source.  The penalty for murderer should be beheading, blood and organs taken from them, and it goes to save the lives of AMERICAN PATRIOTS!!  But the vast majority of undocumented immigrants are totally harmless.

If an undocumented immigrant is 4x as likely to commit murder, then they should be 4x as likely to get executed for murder.  All of the peaceful undocumented immigrants should be left alone.

Just like men are more likely to rape, but that doesn't justify executing every single man.
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If you looked into the history of the phrase you know that is a call for the genocide of every jew in Israel and giving the land to Palestinians. 

It's pretty obvious that platforms will censor calls for genocide
In other words, according to X, hate speech is not free speech.

In reality, hate speech should be classified as free speech.