Consented sex is consented pregnancy. Unwanted pregnancy is irrelevant.

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If you don't want children, don't have sex. Plain and simple.

It's just like playing with matches. If you don't want to get burned, it's nothing to play with.

The problem is, people misuse sex. So we have all this issue.

Unwanted pregnancy, unwanted pregnancy, unwanted pregnancy, unwanted pregnancy.

Stop making a game between yourselves out of lying down.

These are matches you playing with. The responsibility is not running from the consequences.


Take the responsibility not to engage. Just like with the use of alcohol. Drinking games and whatnot. So we have all these DUIs and vehicular homicides.

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@Mall
If you don't want children, don't have sex. Plain and simple.
Incel talking, plain and simple.

It's just like playing with matches. If you don't want to get burned, it's nothing to play with.
If you imagine sex is justlike playing with matches, then you are imagining it wrong.

The problem is, people misuse sex. So we have all this issue.
Incels never misusesex.

Unwanted pregnancy, unwanted pregnancy, unwanted pregnancy, unwanted pregnancy.
Yes, of course, unwantedpregnancy is why you can’t get laid.

Stop making a game between yourselves out of lying down.
Of course it’s not agame, it’s more like a sport.

These are matches you playing with. The responsibility is not running from the consequences.
When women run away fromyou, I don’t think it has anything to do with matches.

Take the responsibility not to engage. Just like with the use of alcohol. Drinking games and whatnot. So we have all these DUIs and vehicular homicides.
Incels are justmore responsible, that’s all.
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What the f...

Are you a radical religious or something like that?

You know there are methods of contraception, don't you?

Women get pregnant basically because men don’t want to use condoms. Yeah, we the men like bareback, it's more pleasant.

There are other methods 100% effective like sterelization that make pregnancy impossible to happen. So, don't speak nonsense when it comes to sex, dear incel. 
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Incel talking, plain and simple.
Tru-dat !

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@Mall
If you don't want children, don't have sex
False logic, since if both "having sex" and "not having children" are goals, the only way to realize both is to have sex with protection and abort if you get pregnant.

Further, people who dont have sex live shorter and are less happy.

So, while abortion may be somewhat immoral, not having sex is not a solution, and telling people not to have sex is nonsense which never worked.

Also, really? Telling people not to have sex?

No sex = no child

Abortion = no child

The only possible difference is that abortion is an action, not a lack of action.

But I dont see how does "no sex" benefit anyone in the equation.
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Sex is designed for having children. It is not designed to not have children. 
If you don't want something as result of doing something, then it doesn't logically follow to do that something.
Trying to backtrack and go around this is actually the false logic.

It's like saying I want good health via unhealthy food . Illogical.
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Looks like you don't disagree.

Trolling is not refuting.
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It's just like playing with matches. If you don't want to get burned, it's nothing to play with.
If you burn yourself from matches, then treatment is legal in all 50 states to heal yourself.  But this treatment is undisputedly harmless whereas this is not true for abortion.

Really with all activities you can do that are dangerous, you can say, “If you don’t want the risk, then don’t do the activity”.  But with all of these activities (except for sex), if things go south, then you can legally get treatment in all 50 states since you aren’t harming anyone by getting treatment for the vast majority of activities (you aren’t harming anyone significantly if you put ice on your hand after a burn from matches).

Find some situation that meets all of the following criteria:

1. Feels very good to do on an instinctive level.
2. Has plausible risk to it if things go very south.
3. Treatment would harm some other entity significantly 

And one bullet point from the following criteria:
4. Therefore, you should not be allowed to get the treatment due to the significant harm it would cause to others.
5. Despite this, you should be allowed to get the treatment despite the significant harm it would do to others.

It’s easy for me to think of many situations where 1 and 2 are met.  It’s much harder for me to complete 1-3 and then get 4 or 5.  Your answer for 4 or 5 should be something pretty much everyone agrees with.

I will tag one person who believes abortion should be legal and another who wants it banned.  Let me know what you guys come up with.
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Looks like you don't disagree.

Trolling is not refuting.
Tee hee hee, incels are so clever.
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@Mall
If sex is a designed process of species reproduction.

A process which also involves a quite intense inbuilt physiological excitement.

Then both reproduction and accompanying  physiological enjoyment were designed.


Similarly the species propensity to overthink and develop must also have been designed.

Therefore it's fair to conclude that extra-procreational sexual activities are inevitable and therefore an intentional  consequence of the design process.


Or everything either purposefully or purposelessly evolved, wherein all developments are reasonable.


Plus, necessity dictates the process and the process needs a stimulus.

Otherwise all we are left with is an unexciting waste evacuation portal.
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Maybe the word "designed" throws you off.

For you we can say the functional use .
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That's what I thought. 
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If you don't want children, don't have sex. Plain and simple.
If you don’t want to die in a car crash, don’t get into a car. Plain and simple.
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If you don’t want to die in a car crash, don’t get into a car.
Thats a really good response. We will see what Mall has to say about that.
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If you don’t want to die in a car crash, don’t get into a car. Plain and simple.

Really with all activities you can do that are dangerous, you can say, “If you don’t want the risk, then don’t do the activity”.  But with all of these activities (except for sex), if things go south, then you can legally get treatment in all 50 states since you aren’t harming anyone by getting treatment for the vast majority of activities (you aren’t harming anyone significantly if you go to the doctor after an injury from a car accident).

Find some situation that meets all of the following criteria:

1. Feels very good to do on an instinctive level (driving doesn't feel nearly as good as sex).
2. Has plausible risk to it if things go very south (2% of the US population dies from a car accident in their lives vs 33% chance you end up with an unplanned pregnancy).
3. Treatment would harm some other entity significantly (there is no harm in you going to the doctor's office after an accident and this is universally agreed upon.  This is not true for abortion).

And one bullet point from the following criteria:
4. Therefore, you should not be allowed to get the treatment due to the significant harm it would cause to others.
5. Despite this, you should be allowed to get the treatment despite the significant harm it would do to others.

It’s easy for me to think of many situations where 1 and 2 are met.  It’s much harder for me to complete 1-3 and then get 4 or 5.  Your answer for 4 or 5 should be something pretty much everyone agrees with.

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Bad analogy plain and simple.

Having children by way of sex is not a risk but a function.

The public has been brainwashed to believe that the FUNCTION of sex is risk, no .


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Consenting to penis in vagina sex where both parties are fertile is consenting to the risk of pregnancy. Risk of X is not the same as X.

If that risk was inaccurately gauged by false or withheld information then it was not consented to.
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@Mall
The word "designed" inevitably suggests a designer.


Functional use is what it is.

And the functionality of reproductive systems invokes an intense physiological experience that thinking man does not forget.

So much so, that the extra-reproductive experience has become of overwhelming social importance to thinking man.


Don't have sex. Plain and simple.
 Is like saying, don't use your smartphone, plain and simple.

Bearing in mind that recreational sex has been an established practice for thousands of years, whereas smartphones have only become a necessity over the past a few years.


Nope, we have well established functional systems designed to prevent unwanted pregnancies.

Yep, I know...We still continue to inherit the clever stupid gene. (Bad design?)
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"Recreational" sex is the reason why all this abortion issue exist.

It's like playing (recreational) with matches or a gun.

These things have their function. When you use or engage in these things, expect the function of these things to occur.

These things and activities are not treated as such. You know that expression "handle a gun like it's loaded".

People confusing risk with function. Function is the mostly thing to happen or will happen working the components of a thing essentially functioning it to do what it does.
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Pregnancy is not a risk, it is the function of sex.

Society is misusing sex looking at the function of something as what they don't want which is what a risk is classified as.

It's like taking medicine to use to get a high or consuming coca leaves, coffee beans, spices - fennel, dill, cinnamon, saffron or nutmeg.

All of these things that have a functional use that can be and is diverted swapping for what would be the actual risks.

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Having children by way of sex is not a risk but a function.
That’s your opinion, you don’t have a right to impose that opinion on anyone else.

The function of sex is whatever the individuals engaging in it say it is. It is no different than a book being used to keep a coffee table level. 
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@Mall
Got something against coffee too? (grips mug protectively)
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@Mall

Trump never got Stormy pregnant.
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So you think of Trump's genitals for most of the day, but there has to be breaks right? It would be exhausting if you dreamed about them too. Or maybe you switch between Donald and Melania and somehow that can be maintained indefinitely?
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OMG, you have  the bloat, the orange makeup and the turkey wattle, don't you?
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@Mall
Recreational sex is the reason why all this abortion issue exist.
That's a bit simplistic.


Sociological development is why an abortion issue exists.


And for sure just like procreational sex, guns have a primary purpose.

And just as with guns, sexuality can be utilised recreationally.

And irresponsibility will have repercussions...We can apply this principle to just about every aspect of human society.

For example, an overzealous addiction to a religious hypothesis can have very damaging repercussions.
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Sociological development, that's very broad.
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With your logic which is liberal, functionality really doesn't have an order to it. It's not objective or fundamental. It just gets arbitrary where the foundational line is blurred or just imaginary where the given function just becomes meaningless.

It's like saying lungs just function according to what we want or the oxygen we breath or our eyes. Things have an inherent function. You can turn away and reject that to protect the liberalism of others.

There are people that recognize these actual functions while saying they'll use the thing however they want to use it at the same time. But at least they acknowledge the actuality of that.
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I know I got a point thanks.
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@Mall
Sociological development, that's very broad.
Exactly.

I was suggesting that an abortion issue exists, not just because people enjoy consensual recreational sex.

Abortion is a reasonably straightforward and safe medical procedure...But this isn't really the "issue" is it?