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@Best.Korea
I'm confirmable, but I need to die first.
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@Best.Korea
Or be attacked, technically. I'd still be alive a day.
I am Purah. Justification is kind of mid though. Because I age slowly, I am a bleeder.
Alright then. That is an odd claim. I know absolutely nothing about the character, so I'm going to look into her a bit.
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@Savant
So if you got lynched, you would be alive the next day?
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@Savant
Meant to tag you.
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@Savant
I'm confirmable
But only if you die, which is a problem.
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@Best.Korea
No. Only if I die at night.
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@Best.Korea
But only if you die, which is a problem.
Yeah, that was a joke.
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@Savant
Thats basically non-confirmable, as scum wont target you at this point.
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@Best.Korea
Yep.
Okay, whats left is that we need to hear from Luna. We cant progress this further unless he comes online.
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@Best.Korea
Agreed. I think we can start with a claim from Luna and go from there.
I'm fine with that. I think we have a solid start with theme, and even if it doesn't pan out, I don't see the harm of locking in claims this early, especially as Moozer hasn't made his justifications make a lot of sense.
61 hours remain in the DP
We need to hear from Austin and Lunatic. I don't really want to play too deep into thematic analysis because it seems cheap, but whatever.
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@Earth
Austin has hinted at his role being confirmable but also said a few things that make me doubt whether he will actually confirm it. Luna will likely post tonight.
We need to hear from Austin and Lunatic. I don't really want to play too deep into thematic analysis because it seems cheap, but whatever.
Not really sure exactly what you mean by this, I said that I'm not one of the six and my role is confirmable.
The part about not playing too deep into thematic analysis makes me a little bit uncomfortable. What benefit does town get from not going for it? Moozer's a newbie mod, theme is going to be relatively obvious, and it's an additional way to gain info.
DP1 always is a struggle for me. Like as scum I can just post off-the-wall reads by abusing my informed minority powers, but as town it feels like we're poking each other around without enough pressure to really generate info.
I would caution against putting too much stock in thematic analysis btw. After Moozer posted his setup last game, I gave him some advice (as a fellow mod) that a good setup will either give scum fakeclaims or deny town of an obvious themesplit. While it's possible that all six main characters are in the game, I wouldn't be surprised if there's something deeper behind it.
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@AustinL0926
The part about not playing too deep into thematic analysis makes me a little bit uncomfortable.
I would caution against putting too much stock in thematic analysis btw.
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@Savant
I don't really see the contradiction there. It's possible to simultaneously acknowledge that thematic analysis is not the be-all-end-all while also saying there's no reason not to do it.
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@AustinL0926
Ok, sure. Just kind of confused me on what your position was.
Yeah, my position is that we should get as much thematic info as possible (since as a narrow theme where justifications are fairly loose, the risk of outing info to scum is reduced), and use it to inform decisions in conjunction with behavior. If the themesplit becomes obvious, great. If it's non-obvious, then we lose little.
lunatic won’t post for a while I bet, he’s usually late on DP1
The six seem like a fine starting place, but there’s a high probability of a mod provided fake claim among them. Still, locking scum in on a fake claim is beneficial.
Due to the theme split from LotR, I assume it’s the same classic Good v. Evil. Still, we should be open to the possibility that there are any other number of theme splits, such as in LotR, it could be humans driving out the mythical races, or girls against boys, or anything else wherein one trait unites and isolates two characters from the pack.
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@Barney
Well for races, I'm not sure there are enough notable humans/Hylians in BoTW to comprise Town. It's possible that Link/Zelda are mafia, but w/e. Depends if you consider the Shiekah human.
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@Barney
Due to the theme split from LotR, I assume it’s the same classic Good v. Evil. Still, we should be open to the possibility that there are any other number of theme splits, such as in LotR, it could be humans driving out the mythical races, or girls against boys, or anything else wherein one trait unites and isolates two characters from the pack.
Honestly, I don't remember the last time that a game was actually solved by a themesplit, and I generally have a pretty good memory for DART games. I think theme analysis is useful both as a basis for locking in softclaims (especially if it's unlikely to give scum too much knowledge of roles), as well as a starting point to analyze interactions and such.
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@AustinL0926
By last game I mean the aborted LotR one.
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@Savant
Whoa, you don't want to claim that role. If you weren't a new player, I would scum read you for that.
I was in a game once on DDO where it ended like day phase 2 because one player was a Paranoid Gun Owner (basically a granny) and literally every visiting role visited RoyalPaladin who was the PGO and mafia won because town basically yeeted themselves. It was pretty fvcking funny. But yeah thats definitely an SOP role.
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@Casey_Risk
So one person immediately tells me that was a bad call, and another immediately says that was a good call. I don't know what to think, lol.But yes, to be clear, anyone who visits me at night will die.
You get some decent town cred due to the fact that this role existed in the failed LOTR game (gimli had it). Seems moozer was pretty attached to this role.