Ive been atheist for a while now, but I’m just realizing that I haven’t really heard both sides of the argument. No disrespect to Alex O’Connor, but I feel like sometimes the sources I’m getting this stuff from can be a little one-sided, and what better place to hear the other side, than right here?
I’m an atheist, but willing to be convinced otherwise
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@Moozer325
This is not a good idea. You might attract the attention of the thumpers, Like Brother D.
Here is a question, how would you know you're talking to god just because a being much more powerful than you does miracles?
Could be satan, could be aliens. Turns out it's not possible to prove to finite organisms that you are infinite.
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@Moozer325
If you have the patience to watch a 1hr debate and want to see Alex debate someone on his level, I'd recommend his discussion with William Lane Craig on the Kalam cosmological argument.
There are people who absolutely hate Craig, but he's probably as deep as you get into complex apologetics. If you want someone who appeals more to the "common man," I'd recommend John Lennox and his debate with Hitchens.
If you want to save time, you can always look up clips or compilations on YouTube, but those tend to be less in-depth and more focused on "owns."
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@Moozer325
You need like 15 maybe 20 " prop " people.
And set up a scenario of sorts. ( ive a hundred in me head )
By days end i can have you sooooo fucking religious it is funny.
Aint funny .
But it is .
Like funny .
It is funny.
Would be.
It would be funny.
But it aint.
You know what i mean .
Oh Yes my Father.
Helejulya ( spell that for me )
No but ummmmm, yeah .
Soooooooo
Ok Mr Moo Moo.
So i can pop you down for one .
Ore inspiring religious convert, turn over thingy.
And we can have that for you .
' searching '
' searching '
How does Wednesday of next week sound?
Ill PM you the details buddy.
Alrighty then.
We good?
Any questions?
Oh And thank you for choosing ( Life Changers )to change your life.
And Moo Moo.
You.
R.
Welcome .
Good day Sir.
Life changers will not be held responsible for
Blah , blah
Orrrr, death and blindnessess and that.
Long term injuries, of that or them even thoes and that.
_______________
Sign here.
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@Deb-8-a-bull
Yeah, you kinda got me wrong here. I'm definitely an atheist, but I don't like to decide things without properly researching it and hearing both sides. I'm probably not going to convert, but hey, go ahead and try, that's what I've set up here for you to do.
I can be VERY VERY per perswavis
Purswation.
I can MAKE ya is what im trying to say.
You just leave that little decision mak8ng thing you do up to me.
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@Savant
I recommend the video in which a dozen of established scientists react to his Kalam argument. It’s quite funny to see actual physicists reacting to his bold assertions with 0 math work behind them .
You don't need to convert.
The problem is that you think if you accept there is a creator and a creation you automatically become a christain believer. I guess you don't want that because you can't stand all the bullshit christian believers preach. Am I right?
I don't like abrahamic religions either but I needed answers anyway so I had to analyze as much information as I could including the bible. The more information you have, the better your approach is.
I suggest you check the eastern philosophies because there are a lot wise there that would allow you to understand better this reality. To me it's better to discuss about the nature of this existence rather than the existence of a "God".
This is GOD hear. Moo ' scrolls up '
Moozers. Fuck .
Im gonna start again.
forget this post.
Hey Moo Moo.
I was going to pretend that this post was like coming from the god thing.
Typing gods voice doesn't do it any justice.
I was gonna be all like .
Listen to me my son. I have personally chosen you to do this special thing.
And then you were going to be like .
YES MY LORD .
TAKE ME. TAKE ME,
On a scale of like 1 to 37
Is this something that you might have fallen for,
No?
Nah .
I need to practice that one.
That was so bad.
Butttttt i cant say i didn't try.
I need to think about this betterer.
Ill leave ya with it.
Ima gonna get cha.
Oh yes i am . Yes yes yes
' insert '
' inspector gadgets bad guy music '
Next time.
Moo Moo.
Next time
' punches desk '
THEM DARN ATHEISTS.
Your trickier then i thought.
Lets go straight to top of me tricks
Toast with jesus on it. ?
Moo, Moo.?
Jesus toast. ?
If that doesn't work , im not sure what else would .
Soòooo is that a No mo?
NO , to toast with jesus on it ?
I give up.
You mind is far to strong .
Hang on a sec.
Mind , strong,
I got it.
A Jedi. Im sure thats a religion.
Ill trick him intio that.
Back soon
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@baggins
It’s quite funny to see actual physicists reacting to his bold assertions with 0 math work behind them .
Why would actual physicists have 0 math work behind them, especially when they are reacting to bold assertions? 🙃
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@Savant
You misunderstood but its my fault because my English is broken. The physicists react to his claims that have 0 math work (his claims)
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@Savant
X is not always X
The appearance of magic is not magic.
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@baggins
Ik, it was a joke.
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@Savant
Oops
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@baggins
Lol, it's all good
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@Moozer325
Help me Moo Moo , your my only hope.
Help me Moo Moo , you my only hope.
This will catch the kunt , belive me you.
I mean .
You will believe me .
Oh crap , im typing this out loud again.
Blast.
O no, this is worst then i thought.
Unfortunately ya may need To Go to jail for 5 years .
Gods always hanging out and talking with fallons.
You cant not run into him there.
5 years there you'll be teaching the word of the great lord .
Can i get a AMEN.
You will.
Get men .
mmmmmm men.
Men men men men .
Many many men.
Ha say that.
Many many men.
Many many men .
Ok then ummmm,
' kicks dirt "
Good game .
Good game.
Ive invented a religion that looks like a darts club .
I mean
I have invented a darts club that is actually a religious group.
Game of darts pal.?
Can i get a 180
Hey moo moo.
Where abouts are you right now.
Whats ya adress mate.
Ya got a family? ( hehehe its not a real question )
Yeah ya got a family hey. ?
Yeah.
Very nice.
Ok then.
Have a good day sir.
Knock knock.
You say whos there.
God .
Then you go.
God who.
Soooo aleast weve made some progress.
Your Willing to accept god.
I know , i know . Its a long drawn out process butttttt.
You asked for it pal.
Im just trying to help is all.
Im just trying to help
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@Moozer325
I'm also a traditional atheist.
And also willing to be convinced otherwise.
Though I would require hard evidence.
Not myth and legend fantasy magical stuff.
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@zedvictor4
What qualifies as hard evidence?
Personally I only believe the Earth revolves around the sun because of hearsay.
Of course there's scientific proofs, experiments,
But I've never actually 'preformed any of them.
I 'think I've read about them before,
But I've forgotten them.
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@Lemming
True.
Everything is an internal simulation.
Sensory input signals converted into electro-chemical data.
We can only assume that the conversion process is reasonably accurate.
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@zedvictor4
Ive been feeding him nonsensical nonsense after nonsense but yet, nothing.
Not a fucking bite.
He straight out does not believe it.
He doesn't.
He does this thing he said. And quote , "inside his head."
Like he weighs things up in his head.
Crazy right. ?
Really zed ya cant help people with half a brain.
( wow that line is like the joke butttttt ive made it run in reverse. )
Thank you.
But ummm yeah .
Scales his got.
And there in his fucking head he says .
And he point to his head like its him in head.
Like thats where the weighing device is.
Yeah i said that.
Look im getting confused now.
But listen.
This is important zed.
Listen.
' Breaths deep '
ive noticed.
THE GRASS IS VERY VERY GREEN THIS TIME OF THE YEAR.
You know what i mean Z ?
Other then that.m
Im At wits end
non conversational, . I mean Conversion ul .conversing.
He can't be converted is what im saying.
We need him converted by the least , this weekend.
Here's what we do.
Ive got his ummm, cough " living quarter s didgets " ,
ill swing by and pick you up.
Yes .
Yes we are gonna need them large sports bags if we are to play some games together.
Nudge nudge .
Wink fucking wink.
Yarrrr mean .
Aslo the small " sport bags " .
Yep.
C u in 15 mins.
Wont covert he says .
ffffff.
ffff.
Now you write back saying.
Well thats all about perspective.
As the Grass around here is bloody horrible this time of the year.
So im not quite sure what your on about.
Then i swear at ya,
And you go like. Oh.
Yep yep .
I got ya.
I know what you mean now.
I know what you mean .
c u soon.
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@Lemming
Do ya reckon we'd have what it takes to capture us a Zed.
Imagine how much $$$ The ummm, " team " would pay for him.
Let us not discuss here butttt,m
I'll PM you some ideas.
I reckon we could get him.
If its hard everdence he wants , its hard everdence we will give him.
' dramatic music '
But ummm yeah .
Ill PM you later.
Im thiking like a mini series.
The conversion al ist a,
The coverter.
The changerer
So its just this guy that get people to believe NONSENSE.
And then in turn , has that peson doing odd crazy stuff.
Oh and the way he does it.
So cool.
But Im not goona give away to much , it is however, in the pipe.,
THE CHANGER ER.
i mean
The bloody ummm , the con verterer.
The converter.
Yeah that it.
Coming this spring.
Keep ya eyes out.
Try to picture what may lay inside this
RELIGIOUS " HARD EVERDENCE. " ROOM 38p
I reckon its just going to be full of, toasts with jesus on it.