When BK is town, how seriously does he take the game? I mean this is the user who started debates called "Anyone who is not a Christian is on the path of sin and sodomy." and cited a Quora answer as his only source. Trolling doesn't always mean scum.
This BK post feels really inorganic to me. How common have janitors been in past BK games to make him especially worried about them?
My gut says that Austin and BK are the scum team. Austin pushes the BK lynch after the doctor claim, which he knows won’t go through. If BK then fails to doctor then flips scum, Austin gets town cred for having been after him since day 1.
How common have janitors been in past BK games to make him especially worried about them?
My gut says that Austin and BK are the scum team.
Intuitively I feel that either Pie or BK is lying about their role. Doctor and Commuter are basically the strongest possible protective roles (unlimited protection of others and unlimited self-protection respectively). A Bodyguard or Jailkeeper would make more sense imo. Not really any actual evidence, just my feeling in terms of game balance.
I find it very difficult to believe that GP isn’t town based on his claim, which is easily verifiable. If it isn’t verified during the NP, then he’s the obvious lynch, so I don’t know why he’d do that.
I stand by my earlier idea of letting the fully confirmed townie lead the charge. If he rolls the dice, there’s a 25% chance he catches scum. An educated guess will hopefully be better odds than that; but it’s a wagon at least initiated with the assurance of no bad motives behind it (any wagon started by someone else, as a 25% chance of being lead by scum)
Austin "suspects" me because he thinks I want to frame best Best.Korea. Then he turns around and advocated lynching Best.Korea.
Given how confident Austin was about lynching Pie, the fact that he's continuing to push hard seems like a scum strategy. I could see a scum player panicking and sticking to their guns even after making a mistake, fearing that pivoting would be seen as unnatural. Whereas I think a town player would be willing to immediately adjust their accusation based on new evidence. It's not necessarily WIFOM, just an instinctive response. Austin said he would "bet his account" on Pie's claim being fake and entirely failed to deliver evidence for this.
We could debate whether a scum player would pretend to act rationally or irrationally, but I think a town player would act more rationally than Austin has been so far.
That said, whiteflame knows Austin much better than I do and has outed him before as scum. So if he feels strongly about this, I'd be willing to go with him and let Austin live for at least today. But if we do lynch Austin later and he's scum, that puts some suspicion on whiteflame in my opinion.
I am down to lynch either Austin, Pie, or Barney, as none of them stick out to me as scum.Rest of the people can be confirmed or are seeming town to me.
inconsistency with his role justification being from the characters personality and not power
It could just be a ballsy fakeclaim, and the role doesn't match up very well. He's also behaved relatively scummily throughout the DP, such as deliberately misconstruing my arguments in order to make my reads seem inconsistent when they're not.
I tunnel as town and sheep as scum. That's pretty much my meta, and you can check my previous games to confirm it. Do you really think I would still be pushing Pie so hard when I know for a fact it's making me look bad? I could've just dropped it after he claimed, with the logic of "he claimed MC, no CCs, sorry for pushing you". There's reasons why I didn't. Town acts rationally, scum behaves rationally.
This BK post feels really inorganic to me. How common have janitors been in past BK games to make him especially worried about them?My gut says that Austin and BK are the scum team. Austin pushes the BK lynch after the doctor claim, which he knows won’t go through. If BK then fails to doctor then flips scum, Austin gets town cred for having been after him since day 1.
Odd that you would address that specifically, but yes, I admit that's probably not a great line of reasoning for now.
You can? Yea I didn’t see that part.
inconsistency with his role justification being from the characters personality and not powerNot to straw-man, but that logic is flawed when you consider JoeBob’s claim of Oliver…A Viltrimite/insect hybrid who ages and learns super fast, with a truly perfect memory such that he fondly remembers Omni-Man from listening in the womb… Being an innocent child has nothing to do with his powers.You can also scroll over the character list for the squishy humans who don’t have powers at all.
You've also been in two games where Pie is scum. His playstyle is near-identical. Buddying the majority of the players while "helping" town by driving a single lynch hard. He did this with BK and you in Indie Games, as well as in Wylted's Mafia.
I honestly can't really tell what this could be for Austin. For me it seems like it's a desperation attempt to try and get lynch off him at some point. I also have seen him do this a few times before as scum when he was first starting. Granted that was awhile ago and I think his game has evolved, but I think it was only 2 games I personally played with him and seems to contrast. However in the last game, he benefited a lot from laying behind and me and whiteflame did a lot of the bickering. This is a different story here and if he tried to do the same thing I think he would be likely scum read.IDK man. If you really don't see a difference between my play last game and this game, then I'm not really sure what to say. If you think that I'm trying to get a mislynch by pushing two moderately townread players (Pie and Savant), then I'm a little bit annoyed that you think I would play this blatantly as scum.
Hard to say. I still think Barney is my top candidate solely because of the inconsistency with his role justification being from the characters personality and not power,I'm not a fan of pushing Barney, but lynching without even asking him for his justification is crazy. Not even mentioning that Lunatic said that the justifications don't necessarily make sense...
but I could see the behavioral reasons as to voting Austin. I also think Austin claiming makes it easier for town to decipher. I also think his role aligns pretty damn well with his character for the most part. However, Austin could be trying to pull a fast one with the Bleeder. Here is what I thinkHis role has a flavor of Bleeder where it also includes DP. I think what is in the realm of possibilities is that Austin can claimed he had been NK'd in like DP2-3 and draw out a mislynch while sacrificing himself. I could see that as a play but could Austin pull it off?Can you clarify what you mean by this?
Not sure. I think his behavior aligns a bit with scum enough to where I wouldn't have problem lynching him. I'd rather not put the hammer until I analyze the full situation a bit more in depthThat wouldn't really be the worst of all possibilities, I suppose, but I'm not going to let myself get mislynched without a fight.
