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@JoeBob
It tells you the name of who is town? Or their character or what?
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@JoeBob
Ok. I’ll just say it now. I am Nico. I am Emissary. Each night I get some insight on who a town member is. It probably won’t tell me flat out, but we could try to peice it together.
So... that doesn't make sense. I hadn't heard of an Emissary before, so I had to look it up. Here's how it's described:
The Emissary starts the game with reliable information of the identity of one town-aligned player in the game.
Given how he played last time - using the Motivator fake claim and having issues explaining the role accurately - this already reads as scummy to me.
Maybe this is some variant of it, but it's not one I'm familiar with and it seems at least a tad sus that you'll be given some unclear "insight." It's also strange that it's specific to a town member. Seems like an easy way to present information without having to be held to the results of a flip.
Also, I have concerns about his character claim, and I might as well bring this up now. Elements of my justification give me reason to believe that 7 of the characters in this game are part of the Prophecy of Seven. I'm not sure all of them are town-aligned. That's part of the reason why I'm having so much trouble with GP's claim: he's placed a member of the Prophecy of Seven, Frank Zhang, as his fake claim. I have a hard time believing that any of the Seven aren't in this game, let alone that one would be used solely as a fake claim. Still, that's a lighter sus than the one I have on JoeBob based on this claim.
So, yeah, I'm willing to pursue this lynch now.
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@whiteflame
Thanks for sharing that, I’m on lunch so minimal time for research and catch-up.
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@Greyparrot
I still don't understand your wild theories on soldier. If you have another game or source that says it isn't town, I would be happy to look at it.
If I'm being honest, I'm not sure how much I buy the Soldier part of that, specifically. I have an easier time believing you're actually Frank Zhang, but not so sure about the role.
Official Vote Count:
Greyparrot (5/6) - Best Korea, Wylted, JoeBob, Vader, Earth
JoeBob (4/6) - Grey, Lunatic, Whiteflame, Barney
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@whiteflame
The Emissary starts the game with reliable information of the identity of one town-aligned player in the game.
is that not what I said? Pie literally said you can’t paste the pm, so I paraphrased it.
Dashboard
PLAYER ROLE CHAR DP1 NP1
1. Barney ???
2. Lunatic ???
3. Austin ???
4. Whiteflame ???
6. JoeBob. Emissary ? Nico
7. Earth ???
9. Wylted ??? [must kill Octavian/GP]
10. Vader ???
Unvote
This is essentially a rolecop.
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@whiteflame
might as well bring this up now. Elements of my justification give me reason to believe that 7 of the characters in this game are part of the Prophecy of Seven. I'm not sure all of them are town-aligned. That's part of the reason why I'm having so much trouble with GP's claim: he's placed a member of the Prophecy of Seven, Frank Zhang, as his fake claim. I have a hard time believing that any of the Seven aren't in this game, let alone that one would be used solely as a fake claim. Still, that's a lighter sus than the one I have on JoeBob based on this claim
This makes zero sense. If you read any of the books, you can clearly tell he is good.
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@JoeBob
is that not what I said? Pie literally said you can’t paste the pm, so I paraphrased it.
You said:
Each night I get some insight on who a town member is. It probably won’t tell me flat out, but we could try to peice it together.
That's entirely distinct. If you followed the Emissary description directly, you would already have that information. You wouldn't need to garner it during the NP.
Official Vote Count:
Greyparrot (4/6) - Best Korea, Wylted, JoeBob, Earth
JoeBob (4/6) - Grey, Lunatic, Whiteflame, Barney
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@whiteflame
Ok I am right. This is a different version. Just because you google something and the first source says whatever you found doesn’t automatically mean your right.
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@JoeBob
This makes zero sense. If you read any of the books, you can clearly tell he is good.
That's not the point. Scum will either have received fake claims of "good" characters or, since you are so knowledgeable about the books, this would have served as a reasonably safe claim given that it doesn't feature among those central 7 characters. It's not proof positive that your claim is false, but it's one more reason why I distrust it.
I'm going back to VTL JoeBob
Starting off with confirming someone as town feels way to bastard for a Pie game IMO. If he really wanted to do that, he would've given him a different role that can be manipulated. With his behavior and overall attitude I think I'm willing to take the risk and lynch.
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@whiteflame
I said what was in my pm differently. I can’t paraphrase it so I worded differently. What do you want?
Official Vote Count:
JoeBob (5/6) - Grey, Lunatic, Whiteflame, Barney, Vader
Greyparrot (4/6) - Best Korea, Wylted, JoeBob, Earth
Ok I am right. This is a different version. Just because you google something and the first source says whatever you found doesn’t automatically mean your right.
I don't know why it would be called Emissary, then. Why not just the Cop? Or the Friendly Neighbor? Seems like either of those roles fit more accurately.
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@Vader
I don’t get that at the start or I already would’ve said that stuff. I get it every night.
I'm going to be busy over much of the remainder of this DP since I'm wrapping up at work. In any case, I now prefer this lynch over GP. Unless someone can give me a strong reason not to do it, this is where my vote will stay.
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@whiteflame
Ok, now it makes sense, but you are going to have to make an alternate scenario where Frank actually is my fake claim and square that with your pm. At some point anyway.
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@whiteflame
Also my question is why didn't he reveal something about a town revealed player? He could've said that oh in the beginning of the game I was told something about a town player as a softclaim. I honestly would much rather believe it
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@whiteflame
JoeBob is definitely lying about his role. My vote will stay
Ok. I have said this 5 god damn times. I get it at night. This is the last time I’m saying it.
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@whiteflame
To play devils advocate, I have seen Pie mislabel roles before in his game. I remember one time where I was a certain role but a justification of a different role
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@whiteflame
Also, now everything you have done is now towny AF
unvote vtl joebon
well
gg
Voted out an innocent person
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@Vader
To play devils advocate, I have seen Pie mislabel roles before in his game. I remember one time where I was a certain role but a justification of a different role
Yeah, that’s my main concern. It’s an odd choice for labeling, but it might be better suited to the character.
STOP POSTING
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@whiteflame
Yeah. I think there's enough evidence to take a risk at this point and with the NP, we will surely get more results, but I am fairly confident he was scum