Battlebots Mafia DP2

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@Lunatic
the vigilante should only use the power on whiteflame or wylted.

the motivator can be confirmed or denied by the vigilante the next dp. if the vigilante dies (because you wasted factional shield for reasons we'll never know) that's just life.
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@ijb1
is your jailkeeper power unlimited or not? you need to answer this ASAP

also tell what you did NP1
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WyIted said:

I am definitely roleblocking you this NP.
We could take out WyIted this dp, and I take out Whiteflame np2, because WyIted seems to admit to having a role block which will make my role useless if he uses it on np2.

Of course, he could be making false claims, so it can go both ways.
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I also dont know how motivator works with my role?

If he motivates me, will I be protected from role block?

Or

Will I get extra kill in np2?

Or

Will I have to activate my role again in np3 to use in np4?

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motivator claim isn't ijb?
Whoops I’m getting him and joebob mixed up 
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@RationalMadman
Stop saying I wasted the factional shield. You are obviously confused about how that works. Read the OP of day phase 1 and ask Austin if you have any questions because I’ve explained it to you the best way I can and you still aren’t getting it. It’s literally impossible to waste it we got utility out of it no matter what
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Also telling him to vig only one person instead of giving him options when the person your asking him to vig is confirmed mafia is asking for a role lock btw that’s why I’m adding other scum list options for him to hit. 
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@Lunatic
I can agree to disagree though I am not sure Mafia targetted me as maybe they were paranoid about a role like yours not being what 7k had and that it would protect me.

Either way I think the shield's been ruined. I do wonder why we aren't told it's been hit though.
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WyIted said:

I am definitely roleblocking you this NP.
We could take out WyIted this dp, and I take out Whiteflame np2, because WyIted seems to admit to having a role block which will make my role useless if he uses it on np2.

Of course, he could be making false claims, so it can go both ways.
wylted could be really saying that and meaning it or a complete liar.

he also claimed he's not a roleblocker and that he's the only partner in his pair that can kill and that to kill he has to 'activate' it the odd night to do the even.
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@Best.Korea
If he motivates me, will I be protected from role block?

Or

Will I get extra kill in np2?

Or

Will I have to activate my role again in np3 to use in np4?

The way he described it after I questioned him is that all three are 'no'.

You'd be told as DP3 begins that you had the power reactivated ready for Np3.
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Please can you give us the video you chose for 7kseries? It's very important.
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@Lunatic
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it's strange that austin posts 'one of the classics' with your bot in the fight yet the one he sent you was a different one.

GP why did you not reveal the video you were sent before Lunatic had a chance to say what it was?
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@RationalMadman
if the vigilante dies
That will only happen if I am role blocked.

I am immune to night kills the next np.

It doesnt say one night kill, but it says immune to night kills, plural.

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oh i'm lucky i'm clear then that would seem a scumslip otherwise by me.

I genuinely forgot your BP vest for a minute.

I have to say I don't see how vigilante role fits Duck the bot at all, having watched the fight.

I think scum has an armor penetrating role though, because there are very aggressive battlebots that can saw through metal etc.
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I have to say I don't see how vigilante role fits Duck the bot at all, having watched the fight.
There is no explanation.

The only explanation I got was that I destroy other bots through endurance, but every bot destroys other bots in some ways, so the vigilante role can probably fit most bots.

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@RationalMadman
I think scum has an armor penetrating role though, because there are very aggressive battlebots that can saw through metal etc.
Its better if all scum focus me, which they have to do or risk me killing one of them.
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@ijb1
Please elaborate on your role, is it unlimited tries or limited and what did you do NP1 with your power? Do not ignore answering these.
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@Vader
claim ASAP, don't sign up if you must lurk to this degree. 
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@JoeBob
Are you willing to cooperate with a plan to confirm yourself and use your power NP1 on the vigilante claim or not? If not we have absolutely no reason to townread you.
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@AustinL0926
If motivator were in game and this role happened to work actively meaning it gives people +1x of depleted uses of their power, then if it is used on same night as a town role, whether vigilante or not, is it the case that the motivator would enable the person to reload their power or is there any town role where motivator acts first and the motivator can be told they didn't give the vigilante for instance their power back another time as the vigilante hadn't yet used it?

Perhaps I'm asking a different question:
if role Y was 2x and motivator gives power, does motivator give Y the 3x or 2x regardless, depending whether or not Y uses power or is there a 'max barrels in chamber' concept you'd apply?
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We need to figure out other two scums this dp.

Even with 2 figured out, even if we manage to take out both by dp3,

We will likely be at 4 vs 2 in dp3 regardless.

From what I conclude, whiteflame wasnt  given fake claim, so scum teams probably only get 1 fake claim per team.

But I assume WyIted wasnt given fake claim either, so the remaining two scums both have fake claim, from what I see so far.

I will take out the two scum we know about right now, but then we need to figure out which claims are fake among remaining players.


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You know what? Just watch it. No spoilers for this one.
that's kind of a sexy one, I didn't know you're allowed to fully know your opponent's bot and then counterbuild it, I also didn't know it can be 2-parts.
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We will likely be at 4 vs 2 in dp3 regardless.
did you suddenly forget factional saves?
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From what I conclude, whiteflame wasnt  given fake claim, so scum teams probably only get 1 fake claim per team.

But I assume WyIted wasnt given fake claim either, so the remaining two scums both have fake claim, from what I see so far.
they both were...
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I have no any experience in figuring out fake claims, so I will leave it to you guys.

I will just take out 2 scums by dp3, and then we likely cant afford a mislynch in dp3.
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did you suddenly forget factional saves?
I dont know if we used it or not.

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@Best.Korea
I think something strange is happening though.

GreyParrot's reason for being bleeder is your reason for having only 1 bulletproof vest. both of your bots take beatings well. Something is a bit strange, for both of you to be so defensive and yet you're vigilante? Sounds strange as hell to me. There are much more aggressive bots around to have your vig power, that aren't flimsy. Why did Austin pick the least offensive bot and not make it a pure defense role?
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@Best.Korea
I dont know if we used it or not.
I meant for the mafia.

DP3 is likely a 5v3 not a 4v2
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@Best.Korea
It doesnt say one night kill, but it says immune to night kills, plural.
is your bulletproof vest only on for NP2 and never after that?
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@Lunatic
If scum targeted you then we would still have a factional bulletproof. But we wouldn’t know who scum targeted so it would blur the lines unnecessarily.
now we lack a factional bulletproof and have no idea who scum targeted instead... I think this situation is worse.