Battlebots Mafia DP2

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@RationalMadman
do you feel jailkeeper and you cancel out in terms of rolebalancing? Or would Austin potentially put both in?
Like I said multiple protection roles makes sense, it is a rolemadness game, a vig and two different mafia teams. The only reason I’m really suspicious of at least one of the other claims is that whiteflame got CCed and we know they got fake claims, so his partner(s) had to have used the other one. The only non protective roles on that list are you and the motivator. So one of them has to be fake. (Not counting wylted since he’s already admitted he’s scum)
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why does motivator have to be fake if vig is 1x and real and you are probably not unlimited or why did you not use a protective power np1?
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I mean motivator only makes sense if it's a negative motivator as in when he dies we lose our powers so I kind of agree this type of motivator is so strange if it's just the vigilante. It's almost like BK and him colluded to make that up.
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Whiteflame is the partner of Wylted. Why would Wylted risk it with a partner who isn't a tryhard?
Not 100% sure I agree this is a fact but it’s plausible. If it is true then whiteflsme probably has an important scum role because wylted is trying to deflect  a lynch on him. And whiteflame is trying to redirect the lynch to wylted so wylted may not have a crazy good role if they are indeed partners.
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why does motivator have to be fake if vig is 1x and real and you are probably not unlimited or why did you not use a protective power np1?


I didn’t say the 1x vig is real, just that is compensates for multiple protective roles if it is. Didn’t say the motivator was fake either.
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The only non protective roles on that list are you and the motivator. So one of them has to be fake.
'one of them' doesn't apply to myself vs motivator then?
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I am back online.

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To explain it better, let’s say I protected you last night as I originally intended. If scum targeted you then we would still have a factional bulletproof. But we wouldn’t know who scum targeted so it would blur the lines unnecessarily. I’d rather know the factional bulletproof is gone so when I protect people in the future I know that it was because of me there wasn’t a night kill. Situation is still relatively the same assuming mafia aren’t going to target a bulletproof or bleeder, only I have to guess work with the other Jailkeeper assuming he wasn’t cc’ing whiteflsme as a mafia ploy to get town confirmation (something we should actually consider btw)
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@RationalMadman
The only non protective roles on that list are you and the motivator. So one of them has to be fake.
'one of them' doesn't apply to myself vs motivator then?

Yes I’m saying one of the protective roles is likely fake.
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that's pretty wild reasoning esp as for all you knew a roleblocker is ther eand other roles aren't that defensive.

I also was confused at first abou tthis factional shit but basically you just wasted the factional shield for no reason from what I understand
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if vigilante is the only 1x power, motivator has to be fake.
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that's pretty wild reasoning esp as for all you knew a roleblocker is ther eand other roles aren't that defensive.

I mean the existence of a role blocker makes an even better case for me to forfeit and not blur the lines unnecessarily.

I also was confused at first abou tthis factional shit but basically you just wasted the factional shield for no reason from what I understand
What? It’s literally impossible to waste it. It’s a guaranteed protection for our faction and it satisfied its job last night just fine. Unless mafia targeted BP, assuming that wasn’t a fake claim.
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Done reading.

I am confused so far, but WyIted has basically admitted to being scum and said he will role block me which isnt too bad, since that way cop survives if claim of doctor is true.

And if I am not role blocked, I take out the most likely scum in np2, and we will see who is most likely other than WyIted by the end.
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Did you forget that whiteflame was both guiltied by the cop and character claimed?
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Both my powers are only once and in np2. After that, I can no longer use them.
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I am a bit confused about that one, but sure, if we all agree, I will take out whiteflame np2 unless I am blocked.
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if vigilante is the only 1x power, motivator has to be fake.
yeah this is likely mafia. I don’t see the mod putting a motivator in for one person. I guess it’s possible but seems very unlikely
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Whiteflame- whiplash- Jailkeeper
Ijb1- Tantrum- Jailkeeper
Oh, I see it now.
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I am a bit confused about that one, but sure, if we all agree, I will take out whiteflame np2 unless I am blocked.
I think it would be better to just lynch him. He’s vying for survival by trying hard to redirect the lynch to wylted which makes me think he has an impactful role, I’d use your vig on either wylted or  ijb.

Remember there is also a factional bulletproof so the big probably wouldn’t work anyway even if you weren’t role locked 
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Remember there is also a factional bulletproof so the big probably wouldn’t work anyway even if you weren’t role locked
If that prevents me, then my role is basically useless this game.
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What? It’s literally impossible to waste it. It’s a guaranteed protection for our faction and it satisfied its job last night just fine
from what i understood it actually lasts beyond np1 until the first kill would happen.
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WTF why would you want best korea to vig ijb?
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do NOT vig ijb please. you vig wylted if whiteflame is lynched. Do not risk misfiring please.
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If that prevents me, then my role is basically useless this game.
which means motivator with you does make sense as a duo.
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from what i understood it actually lasts beyond np1 until the first kill would happen.
Yeah but no matter what it only works one time and if I used my protection we’d basically never know if we still had it or not, and it gives us the same value if it’s used np1 or if it’s used np4 for example, so I’d rather get the value out of it np1 and not be confused about whether or not it was used or not. 
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WTF why would you want best korea to vig ijb?
because it’s super unlikely that a motivator exists for one role like you yourself just said.
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I’ve never seen motivator used as a duo btw have you
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motivator claim isn't ijb?
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It seems that I am the only town player with night kill ability, and I only get to use it once, so I will use it on Whiteflame or WyIted.

I have to use it this np2, because I activated it in np1 to use in np2.