Battlebots Mafia DP1

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@Best.Korea
Lurker's strategy is to keep quiet and let others fight each other.

Its a brilliant strategy, because you always have the excuse of "oh I was so busy this day", "I have a job", "bla bla bla".

This. Lurking is also different from not being active. Lurking is inherently scummy because it assumes you are letting town fight between each other as scum. I don't have a problem voting obvious lurkers but there hasn't been one from what I seen at this current moment
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Luna's reactions read me as town. I haven't played with him in a minute but the behavior of pointing mod errors to try to town confirm people is usually what I've seen him as town. Granted I have not played mafia in little over a year let alone with Luna so I could obviously be wrong 
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You planning on joining this discussion? Also, good to have you back and love the Gurren Lagann pfp.
Mostly back to play mafia but it is good to finally play after a while

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Alright I've done a bit of a mild skim, gonna go deep reads later during my break between classes. I'm going out with my girlfriend tonight (shocking I know), but here are my initial thoughts

-7k is dead weight. Dead weight = scummy. We will go back and forth on this no matter what. This allows scum to capitalize on this and lead to easy town mislynches
-Grey is town. This role is inherently pro town role but I still would like to add more. The character claim doesn't necessarily mean confirmed (I know I said it earlier but I reevaluated my stance), but it gives an indication he is telling the truth. Also we were all given a video as well. Mafia were given fakeclaims and I don't think they'd be given videos as well, so it makes the case stronger for Grey as town
-Luna is a lean town for my reason stated above. This is something I've seen Luna do as town and his overall analysis seems to be more town then scum but again I could be misreading
-RMs defensiveness reads more town. I also think his behavior analysis of people leans more of what I've seen before as town 

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Town
Grey

Lean Town
Luna
RM

Null
Everyone not listen

Lean Scum
7k

Scum

Granted I need to analyze things a lot more for scum play and check behavior of other games, so that's why my scumlist is so small (besides 7k who is inherently hurting town) 
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As for lynching. There is 100% no reason as to why we need to quickly jump to a lynch. It's DP1 and I believe the game started either last night or this morning. We have 48hrs since OP to post. Let's get some actual discourse and discussion verses lynching are primary target right now
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@whiteflame
No I initially Townread him that game.

It's why I voted you over him.
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Btw the video Iw as sent doesn't work even with VPN for 3 different countries one is US.

Idc about this nerdy bot battle shit though, no offense. I just wondered if there's a video clue.

My boy is in season 6.

I claim a bot in season 6.
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All claim your season RIGHT NOW


FAST.

Faster the better for town.
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The video you were sent tell the season RIGHT NOW
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NOW IMMEDIATE claim the season your video is from
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You too
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@Vader
Weirdly, my pm doesn't exactly say, although when I researched, it says bleeder only works if you are targetted during the night, which is kind of what my pm says.

So I am guessing it means lynching works since it's not at night.
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Quarter Final 1 - Battlebots Championship 2020 Season 5 Finals - Bots Fan
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@Greyparrot
I said season not episode but you already claimed role anyway so this hardly helps.

I have e 2 theories of how the split has been done ATM but it can easily be another than the 2.

I want to know the seasons of all first.
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@Greyparrot
Hardly hurts us I meant not hardly hells
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NOW IMMEDIATE claim the season your video is from
I think its from 2019, as I wasnt even given link to video but to search.

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Video says Season 5.
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@Best.Korea
Interesting.

When you searched what season was the bot most prominent in?
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@whiteflame
One theory I have is we are split perfectly across. This would me you're scum if GP isn't. In that if 2 share a season one is fake.

This of course can be total BS. I need more claims to see.
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@RationalMadman
The fight happened 2019.

I dont know what season is that. I will try to figure out.
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@7000series
You will not get a claim out of me.
If I claim, scum will just get me during the night.

Unlikely in your case for 2 reasons:

1) Scum will keep around a cannibal town that tries to help scum lynch town.
2) Lunatic almost always dies the 1st night.

But still don't claim unless you really think it helps.
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Okay, I finally found video with description saying its season 4.
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One theory I have is we are split perfectly across. This would me you're scum if GP isn't. In that if 2 share a season one is fake.

This of course can be total BS. I need more claims to see.
Seems a little too broad, but worth exploring at least.
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@whiteflame
This theory doesn't protect against fakeclaims so I'm not stupid and assuming direct rivalries will be exposed but I think Austin may have kept the fakeclaim in the same seasons as the scum pair have for real claims.

I can be wrong, I don't care. At the very least this forces people to be more boxed in later and not have full freedom to fake too well. They choose now which season to fakeclaim and are held to it later no matter what.

I am also standing by my scumread on Wylted.

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All vote 7kseries, Wylted or Joebob immediately. All 3 will need to be exiting the game for a Town win, thanks for cooperation.
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I'm not trolling, vote them.
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I will lynch them when we get 10 hours till end.

But right now, I will be happy with their claim.
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VTL 7000series

I think your "new player" protection has expired.

Now, I hope you have some convincing role or character to tell us.
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@7000series
If I regularly act suspicious, then nobody will suspect when I am actually scum.
True, or they will always suspect you which will work against you both when scum or vanilla.

Then the only time such behavior will benefit you if you are some important role town wont lynch and scum wont kill..

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@Best.Korea
The problem with waiting for a claim is it merely enables scum to help out the other three by the cc they force but I do not know a way around this that doesn't significantly risk cutting off a key PR so it's a lose-lose reality.