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I gave an ideal so we can coalesce around somebody. Let's all listb3 people we are willing to lynch. I go first.

1. Bk
2. Gp
3. Bullish

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I think I already listed two.

1. Wylted
2. Pie

And in that order.

Now, I dont have a 3rd target, and I doubt I even need it given that I die by scum irrelevant of what I do this dp.

But if it wasnt for Wylted and pie, I guess the only other two options would be bullish and joe.
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Well you are scum read enough that perhaps if nobody lynched you and you are town you are seen as a mislynch so they may target elsewhere.  

We have to collectively agree to some sort of action that will likely not be the first choice of most of the people agreeing
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Be honest. Is the read on me and Pie just OMGUS
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We have to collectively agree to some sort of action that will likely not be the first choice of most of the people agreeing
I am kinda hoping for the two I listed, but the 3rd one would be Bullish.

So,

1. Wylted
2. Pie
3. Bullish

In that order of priority.
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I actually think I would prefer a no lynch over voting bullish for now. 
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I actually think I would prefer a no lynch over voting bullish for now. 
Its 5 - 2 likely.

If we lynch, we are at 3 - 2 in case of mislynch.

If we skip, we are at 4 - 2, then if we skip again we are at 3 - 2.

So I would agree that no lynch twice in a row gives us more time to read.



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The scum pool for me is very narrow though and the rest of the game sees procedural. The only think that has stopped me from going full steam ahead with you is the thought there could potentially be 3 scum. 

If we have 2 scum it I between you GP and Bullish. 

I dont think it bodes well for you that your scum list has 2 definite town in it at the very least. 

I mean I could be wrong on a town read. Joebob is probably closer to null than town. I keep flipping my opinion on bullish. 

Austin could just be scum playing well. Pie is not good enough as scum to trick me so he is definitely town. I am pretty sure as long as I agree to zero lynches outside of my scum pool and I last in the game than we should be good. 
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Other than best korea my scum list is mostly just POE though. Which usually means I am playing well. I usually am playing poorly when I lynch through POE rather than scum reads
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We know 2 players that are definitely town due to flips. It might be worth it to look at their interactions last DP. Anyone standoffish with 7k should be suspicious. 


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Maybe we should lynch joebob and if BK is town just let the scum team handle him. I know GP and Bullish are definitely off the table and there may be some utility in seeing if best korea survives although I wouldn't dismiss BK as scum opting out of an NK in some attempt to prove his role
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Maybe we should lynch joebob
Lets see.

We are at 5 - 2.

If joebob is town, the only one who can lynch him is scum because:

1. I wont lynch him

2. He wont lynch himself

So that means only 3 town voters can vote him, so one of 4 necessary votes would have to be scum.

Go ahead. Lynch him. Lynch him and expose yourself, because if he is town and I am town, which will be proven soon, one of the votes lynching Joe must be scum.
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1. I wont lynch him

2. He wont lynch himself
Okay you raise a good point.

unvote VTL best.korea 
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And if you lynch me,

Same case applies if someone else who can confirm his role doesnt vote me, because then only 3 town players at max would vote me.

If I am lynched and turn town as I will, what do you think who is the next obvious target?

Who was so eager to lynch the player who is the only confirmed town player alive in the game?

Its interesting how all I had to do to find scum was set bait for them to attack, and only scum would think that we should lynch doctor who wasnt cc by anyone.
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Same case applies if someone else who can confirm his role doesnt vote me, because then only 3 town players at max would vote me.
It's not the same case because you are either scum or anti town while joebob is either scum or protown.  

There is a completely different calculus here. 

If I am lynched and turn town as I will, what do you think who is the next obvious target?
The scum pool  will be pretty small. So either bullish or GP most likely unless something changes. Joebob is still a target and hey if one of them is NKed it makes it even easier. 

Its interesting how all I had to do to find scum was set bait for them to attack, and only scum would think that we should lynch doctor who wasnt cc by anyone
On DP1. Early in Dp1 I stated that it is going to be atleast 1 scum between you and 7k. Pue also was leaning scum on you dp1 . So if you set bait to see who would be willing to lynch you and it is literally the same people who scum read you DP1. Well then how well did that trap work?

Your focus here makes no sense. Here is why. If that was an actual trap than joebob and Bullish should be the ones you perceive as caught in it based on the fact neither mentioned scum reading you DP 1
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Here you go. Post 93 and Pie a few posts after agrees with me that you re are scummy


So if that was a trap it failed. Or you failed to analyze the results of your trap correctly.  2 people had you in their scum pile dp1. Those 2 people remained consistent and this was your trap? 
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Option 1. If I am doctor and you lynch me, you certainly kill at least 2 town players because scum will take out another town and I cant protect.

So you risk 3 town players.

Option 2. If you lynch Wylted, you possibly kill scum and I die anyway by scum.

So you risk 1 town player or 2 at max.

If I am scum, I will survive to dp3, then you will be certain I am scum anyway and can lynch me.

So its an obvious choice to lynch Wylted.

Scum would have to be extremely bad to actually not kill doctor.
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than joebob and Bullish should be the ones you perceive as caught
I literally listed them, but you and pie are more eager than any of them.

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Option 1. If I am doctor and you lynch me, you certainly kill at least 2 town players because scum will take out another town and I cant protect.
That's your own fault then for not being willing to vote somebody other than me or pie. Joebob is fine as a lynch. He int my top choice either but you want to be stubborn so if it is a mislynch it is your own fault. 

If you lynch Wylted, you possibly kill scum and I die anyway by scum.
That isn't happening. Every experienced player in the game town reads me and that is for a reason. 

Scum would have to be extremely bad to actually not kill doctor.
Not really. They know you have me pie and bullish in your scum list so it's pretty easy to predict who you will protect and since there is likely a power role between bullish and pie they don't need to worry about you yet. 

If bullish is town and I was scum I would just take out pie and since your reads are so off I would definitely try to keep you in the game as long as I can predict who you would protect
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I literally listed them, but you and pie are more eager than any of them.
We are also both emotionally immature and impatient so maybe use your brain. 
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Fucking asshole. 

unvote

i know the scum team now but I don't feel like dealing with the bullshit of solidifying my reads. Town fucking sucks this game
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Bro are you town? 
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He int my top choice either but you want to be stubborn so if it is a mislynch it is your own fault.
There is no mislynch if we lynch you.

And I dont see how you mislynching Joe would be my fault. Its your action.

Every experienced player in the game town reads me and that is for a reason
Which experienced player are you talking about?

Pie was already wrong 2 times in a row, and I dont think Bullish is exactly reliable.

They know you have me pie and bullish in your scum list so it's pretty easy to predict who you will protect and since there is likely a power role between bullish and pie they don't need to worry about you yet.
They cant predict who will I protect, but if they get it wrong, they not only lose kill, but I confirm another player as town.

Take the risk if you want.

If bullish is town and I was scum I would just take out pie and since your reads are so off I would definitely try to keep you in the game as long as I can predict who you would protect
Bunch of made up claims.
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So my scum pool is now B.K., Joe and GP

Want to lock in your scum pool and see whose is more accurate? 

The thing is I am starting to think you are just bad town and I am tempted to just say my scum pool is joe, GP and bullish.

So yes we go with the 2nd scum pool. Go ahead and give me 3 people and I will be bringing up how stupid your guesses are in the end game. 
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Pie was already wrong 2 times in a row, and I dont think Bullish is exactly reliable.
WtF does this mean?

Who cares. The game us about narrowing your scum pool and slowly tightening the noose. It isn't about accurate lynches as much is it is about shrinking your scum pool so in the endgame your team wins. 
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I am starting to think he is just dumb town. I am down for joebon
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Joe's jump on BK seemed opportunistic
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Go ahead and give me 3 people 
I already did.

Two times.

I guess you just cant handle that you and pie are among the 3.
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Joe's jump on BK seemed opportunistic
Thanks for letting us know that Joe isnt scum.

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He is literally a liability if he is town though so still open to lynching this is absurd.