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I was going to say it's not from a behavioral perspective, but I suppose that makes it pretty obvious it has to do with my role one way or another. I am like 80% sure one of you is scum, but it looks like BK is heading for a lynch, so I guess I'll do it.

My PM mentions town PRs, plural. No other town players have claimed a PR, so the only possibility of there being more than one town PR is whiteflame + BK.


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The remarkable lack thereof.
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There are people who are unclaimed that is weak
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I was going to say it's not from a behavioral perspective, but I suppose that makes it pretty obvious it has to do with my role one way or another. I am like 80% sure one of you is scum, but it looks like BK is heading for a lynch, so I guess I'll do it.

My PM mentions town PRs, plural. No other town players have claimed a PR, so the only possibility of there being more than one town PR is whiteflame + BK.
Bullish and I still haven’t claimed. You can’t make that assumption without knowing if we are PRs or not. Either way that’s a bad assumption to run with just because he is the only claimed PR.

Also at this point scum knows you have a PR so you might as well just full claim
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So help me God if Austin has a protective role. 
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So help me God if Austin has a protective role. 
I would fr start crying
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Why aren’t you full claiming? Your telling everyone else to do so yet  you aren’t yourself. Seems to me like you are seeing who has the most vital role so you can kill them off and make it easier to win.
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Why aren’t you full claiming? You’re telling everyone else to do so yet  you aren’t yourself. Seems to me like you are seeing who has the most vital role so you can kill them off and make it easier to win.
No, it is never okay to just out and give claim. Hell all I wanted this DP was Korea and your claims cause I scumread yall. Wylted gave it out of his own volition and Austin just randomly admitted he was a PR to protect Korea. If you want me to claim, you put pressure on me, and rn there is no point to do that.
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Well let me clarify that, you generally don’t unless you have an SoP (standard operating procedure) claim like a miller or paranoia gun owner or lynchproof or Deathproof. That’s the only time I’ve willing outted (you’re welcome to check my past games). Otherwise you don’t unless there’s pressure. 
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Controversial take but Miller shouldn't claim
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Ok, I admit that I should have waited before you and Bullish softclaimed before outing my role PM. That's my bad. But you and Wylted were practically threatening to lynch BK right then and there.

Also kind of weird you are just randomly assuming I am a PR just because I got extra information in my role PM.
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Pie          <-most scummy
Joebob
Wylted
GP         <- null
Bullish
BK         <- most towny




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Controversial take but Miller shouldn't claim
That’s a topic for another day
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Ok, I admit that I should have waited before you and Bullish softclaimed before outing my role PM. That's my bad. But you and Wylted were practically threatening to lynch BK right then and there.
It was the 4 of us.

Also kind of weird you are just randomly assuming I am a PR just because I got extra information in my role PM.
So you’re not a PR and you’re defending BK on a hunch about multiple PRs without even knowing mine or Bullish’s role?
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Pie          <-most scummy
Joebob
Wylted
GP         <- null
Bullish 
BK         <- most towny
Alright so you never responded earlier. What about me is scummy. And while ur at it, why I’m curious to hear why Bullish is town to you?
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It was the 4 of us.
You and Wylted were clearly leading the lynch, you're the two most active players here.

So you’re not a PR and you’re defending BK on a hunch about multiple PRs without even knowing mine or Bullish’s role?
It's pretty obvious that you're not a PR at this point, you would have just claimed it when I defended BK on the basis of there being more than 1 PR. I did mess up by not waiting for Bullish, but we'll see about their role.

Alright so you never responded earlier. What about me is scummy.
-Your interactions with Wylted raise a huge red flag. You've been alternating between ignoring him, making flufftalk, and diverting attention from him. Then suddenly, you two decide in unison to try and get a lynch on BK despite the fact that even without my evidence, he claimed a protective role (a given in these kinds of setups) without a CC. I literally see zero reason to lynch a player mechanically likely to be town based instead of Joe, who admitted to hammering someone he thought was town.

And while ur at it, why I’m curious to hear why Bullish is town to you?
I don't think they're town, I think they're null.
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In light of the new information here, I'd like to hear some of your reads.
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You and Wylted were clearly leading the lynch, you're the two most active players here.
I was pointing it out that there were enough votes to lynch my other scumread. My top vote is still on JoeBob.

It's pretty obvious that you're not a PR at this point, you would have just claimed it when I defended BK on the basis of there being more than 1 PR. I did mess up by not waiting for Bullish, but we'll see about their role.
You’re entitled to your opinion. I’m not going to confirm or deny either way. If we mislynch here (I strongly doubt we will unless we don’t go JoeBob or Korea) , I will obviously out tomorrow if I live.

-Your interactions with Wylted raise a huge red flag. You've been alternating between ignoring him, making flufftalk, and diverting attention from him. Then suddenly, you two decide in unison to try and get a lynch on BK despite the fact that even without my evidence, he claimed a protective role (a given in these kinds of setups) without a CC. I literally see zero reason to lynch a player mechanically likely to be town based instead of Joe, who admitted to hammering someone he thought was town.
Wylted and I go way back lol. We literally have each other’s phone numbers. I caught him as scum a couple of games back. His behavior does not match that game. Wylted can fight his own battles, but I do lean town on him. Even if I am diverting attention, I am refocusing on my scum reads. I’ve never shifted from the fact that I scumread BK. He is my next scumread behaviorally.

As for BK’s claim, it’s not a given that his role has to be in the game. There could be other roles that make up for a doctor not being in the game. It comes down to balance of the game. Not all games require a doctor or some form of protective role. Either way, my vote has been on JoeBob for a while as he is my top scumread. No one wants to shift to him though, which is why I’m considering my second scumread. Let’s lynch JoeBob.

I don't think they're town, I think they're null.
So why is only GP null?
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Also in case you didn’t know, a PR is a non vanilla role. Vanillas are not even any other information per the flip on 7000series, so you’re definitely a PR
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I feel like I always have a good bead on pie after 3 or 4 posts. I am confident enough in the read to lose the game based on that read if it is me pie and literally anyone else at LYLO
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If PR role was even mentioned in his PM he I probably that role that makes active roles stronger or something.  I forget what it is called. Something like enabler
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If PR role was even mentioned in his PM he I probably that role that makes active roles stronger or something.  I forget what it is called. Something like enabler
Enabler keeps the power on for another PR. I think you’re thinking motivator, which allows PRs to have an extra shot. Basically doctors can protect two people, cops can investigate two people, etc
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Post #348:

I'm not going to reply to all that individually, but I'll buy it for now. If JoeBob flips innocent, then the lynch is between you and Wylted tmrw.

Also in case you didn’t know, a PR is a non vanilla role.
MB, wasn't aware of that. Yes, I am a non-vanilla role.
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MB, wasn't aware of that. Yes, I am a non-vanilla role.
It was obvious. Scum already know about it at this point and they’re going to have an option of killing BK or you assuming you both are telling the truth. So you might as well just say what it is so we can plan it out. I already town read you for a while
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I want to hear from Bullish first.
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BTW, I will be gone for most of tomorrow morning. Don't do anything especially stupid while I'm gone, we still have over a day and a half left.
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I won't be able to handle it if korea is town. To have both him an Austin as useless just handicaps us too much against the scum team
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Fantastic job Joe.  I like this new effort. 
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Before I start reading in detail whats been posted by now,

From my point of view, Pie and Wylted are obvious scum.

They are both making bunch of false claims, or just posting nonsense to seem active or bait lynch.

Also, Pie never even engages Wylted but is focused on engaging me and even saying nonsense that doctor isnt a confirmed town.

Well, no one has cc me with anything, and there is almost always doctor in the game, so take from that what you will.

The way I see it, if pie is so eager to defend Wylted for no reason and ignore all scummy things he says, and still come after a doctor rather than vanilla, then pie is scum and Wylted is also likely scum.

I will admit that my first targeting of pie was just to see reactions and possibly reveal scum by seeing who will jump on me.

Given that pie and Wylted were the only ones to jump on me for almost no reason other than that I am jumping on them, is a scum tell.

Also, pie keeps making up nonsense arguments, such as

"best.korea's game isnt same as previous game".

Well, maybe thats because my previous game was like a year ago, and the fact that you think my gameplay wont change during that period is quite funny, given that my debating style itself changes every month.

And Wylted is literally deflecting all over the place just to bait a lynch on someone.

This is about as scummy as scum gets, but JoeBob isnt very far from them either.
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Oh lord lol.