Conspiracy Theories are Spoilers?

It's like when you beat the shit out of your wife, but the pitbull comes into the house from taking a shit. He isn't intentionally keeping you from finishing the ass whooping, but you aren't going to finish it in his presence

It's like when you beat the shit out of your wife, but the pitbull comes into the house from taking a shit. He isn't intentionally keeping you from finishing the ass whooping, but you aren't going to finish it in his presence....

Not a single liberal will apologize for calling trump a liar when he said his campaign was spied on. 

Just two weeks after the Central Park attack, before any of the boys had faced trial and while Meili remained critically ill in a coma, Donald Trump, whose office on Fifth Avenue commanded an exquisite view of the park’s opulent southern frontier, intervened.

He paid a reported $85,000 to take out advertising space in four of the city’s newspapers, including the New York Times. Under the headline “Bring Back The Death Penalty. Bring Back Our Police!” and above his signature, Trump wrote: “I want to hate these muggers and murderers. They should be forced to suffer and, when they kill, they should be executed for their crimes. They must serve as examples so that others will think long and hard before committing a crime or an act of violence.”

Salaam, now 41, cannot remember exactly where he was when he first saw the ads. He had no idea who Trump was. “I knew that this famous person calling for us to die was very serious,” he recalled.

“We were all afraid. Our families were afraid. Our loved ones were afraid. For us to walk around as if we had a target on our backs, that’s how things were.”

All five minors had already been paraded in front of the cameras and had their names and addresses published, but Salaam said he and his family received more death threats after the papers ran Trump’s full-page screed. On a daytime TV show two days later, a female audience member called for the boys to be castrated and echoed the calls for the death penalty if Meili died. Pat Buchanan, the former Republican White House aide, called for the oldest of the group, Wise, to be “tried, convicted and hanged in Central Park by June 1”.

“Had this been the 1950s, that sick type of justice that they wanted – somebody from that darker place of society would have most certainly came to our homes, dragged us from our beds and hung us from trees in Central Park. It would have been similar to what they did to Emmett Till,” Salaam said.

Kharey Wise in court when he was arraigned in the Central Park jogger case. Photograph: NY Daily News Archive via Getty ImagesAll five boys pleaded not guilty at trial the following year. The prosecution’s case rested almost entirely on the confessions they had given shortly after the incident. As would become crucial later on, there was no DNA evidence linking any of them to the crime scene and Meili, who made a miraculous recovery and testified in court, could not remember any details of the attack.

The jury found all five boys guilty. The court condemned them to prison to serve sentences ranging from five to 10 years and five to 15 years. Wise, who had remained in the city’s notorious Rikers Island jail, was sentenced as an adult.

Michael Warren, the veteran New York civil rights lawyer who would later come to represent the Central Park Five, is certain that Trump’s advertisements played a role in securing conviction.

“He poisoned the minds of many people who lived in New York and who, rightfully, had a natural affinity for the victim,” said Warren. “Notwithstanding the jurors’ assertions that they could be fair and impartial, some of them or their families, who naturally have influence, had to be affected by the inflammatory rhetoric in the ads.”

I mean if your saying everyone in the government is part of the deep state by virtue of the fact they are government officials and elected government office holders it just makes no sense.

Nope. Still not understanding what you are trying to say. Especially if it concerns the deep state and some kind of explanation why you believe there is a deep state and exactly what it is and who is in it.

*anyone wondering why I have not tagged RM, he blocked me due to apparently saying g trump was truthful in one instance and giving him a warm welcome. Take that as a reflection on his character however you will

As far as the central park 5 is concerned, they were guilty of being part of the group that attacked that jogger. If one person is guilty of attacking her but 10 others stand around and cheer it on, then obviously she will be afraid to fight back and defend herself and any onlookers will be afraid to rescue her when a large crowd of people are on the side of the attackers. 

Those kids aren't innocent. They were engaging in mob violence and criminal activity. If you have 5 people do a bank robbery but only one of them kill the teller when it is done and over with, all 5 get charged with murder. 

Perhaps their punishment was disproportionate to the crime, but they absolutely were engaged in criminal behavior and deserved to lose at least a few years of their life for it. 

No, it's representative of a certain mentality that has taken hold. If anyone is claiming an organized conspiracy they are incorrect. If they are claiming all billionaires, leaders in government institutions or politicians are deep state, they are incorrect. 

When the word deepstate is stated…

just a easy way to make burnham's hypothesis more digestible to the masses.

They don’t think the deep state is a “mentality”. They do believe it is organized.

No academics on the right are referring to it that way. 

please name right wing sources you'd consider valid that have referred to the deep state and said it's an organised group as opposed to a mentality?

Actually he claims the deep state is NOT organized 

I want a non schizo source from a serious republican that overtly describes the deepstate as an organized illuminati type organization or any sort of organized group for that matter. 

Here is a good source I found. Watching video now to comment

https://www.americanmoment.org/features/unmasking-the-deep-state/

• Jacob Seigel at Tablet breaks down the Deep State’s deployment of “disinformation” as a tool to manipulate and control the masses. Split into thirteen parts, the piece connects the dots between the 2014 Euromaidan Revolution in Ukraine to ‘Russiagate’ to COVID-19, and the militarization of the bio-medical security state to censor and surveil citizens.
  
• Key excerpts:
  
  • “Since 2016, the federal government has spent billions of dollars on turning the counter-disinformation complex into one of the most powerful forces in the modern world: a sprawling leviathan with tentacles reaching into both the public and private sector, which the government uses to direct a “whole of society” effort that aims to seize total control over the internet and achieve nothing less than the eradication of human error.”

• • CIA officers at Langley came to share a cause with hip young journalists in Brooklyn, progressive nonprofits in D.C., George Soros-funded think tanks in Prague, racial equity consultants, private equity consultants, tech company staffers in Silicon Valley, Ivy League researchers, and failed British royals. Never Trump Republicans joined forces with the Democratic National Committee, which declared online disinformation ‘a whole-of-society problem that requires a whole-of-society response.'”
    

“The crime is the information war itself, which was launched under false pretenses and by its nature destroys the essential boundaries between the public and private and between the foreign and domestic, on which peace and democracy depend. By conflating the anti-establishment politics of domestic populists with acts of war by foreign enemies, it justified turning weapons of war against American citizens. It turned the public arenas where social and political life takes place into surveillance traps and targets for mass psychological operations. The crime is the routine violation of Americans’ rights by unelected officials who secretly control what individuals can think and say.”

“In a technical or structural sense, the censorship regime’s aim is not to censor or to oppress, but to rule. That’s why the authorities can never be labeled as guilty of disinformation. Not when they lied about Hunter Biden’s laptops, not when they claimed that the lab leak was a racist conspiracy, not when they said that vaccines stopped transmission of the novel coronavirus. Disinformation, now and for all time, is whatever they say it is. That is not a sign that the concept is being misused or corrupted; it is the precise functioning of a totalitarian system.”

How is this a mentality and how is it unorganised?

Then you are also lying the deep state is evil, corrupt blablabla.

Doesn't add up. Your own source would disagree with you.

Knowing this, any threat to "the process" is a threat to the managerial class, and they will use all the power they have and any means available, legal or otherwise, to prevent that outcome. The Rubric is clear on this. It's a matter of self-preservation over the good of the Nation, simple them vs us.

I am seeing many references to it but nobody saying exactly what it is or defining it in any sort of way

If any person deeply indoctrinated in the dogma of the left-tribe ever asks you again to explain what the deep state is, just redirect them to this ageless clip that will forever be the quiet part screamed out loud.