Conspiracy Theories are Spoilers?
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Not a single liberal will apologize for calling trump a liar when he said his campaign was spied om.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
Every one of the left tribe knows full well the CIA tried to get rid of Trump. They just believe that the CIA cares about America.
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@Greyparrot
What's funny is the other side of intelligence agencies they don't notice.
I. The 1940s after WW2 was coming to a close, every western nation started forming stay behind organizations meant to act like terrorist units should these western nations or the United States fall to the new soviet threat. It is said that America's SBO was disbanded at the end of the cold war. However here are some things that might indicate otherwise.
America was about to fall to the Marxist woke mob and the following things happened.
1. Young men were becoming disenfranchised and were about to exclusively vote left and support the woke mob, but the son of a known CIA agent who is named Andrew Tate came out of nowhere to be the personal daddy of millions of young disenfranchised American boys. All of which will be turning 18 just in time to vote in the 2024 election. (See the portion of first time voters supporting trump)
2. The left had tightened its grip around all of social media and was about to be the only people who could paint a narrative s free speech was being annihilated.
In response to this a billionaire overpaid for Twitter and this same billionaire stands to get billions in military contracts that will make up for the loss. . Almost as if a back room deal was made to save America.
I am sure if you look hard enough you can see the handprints of this disbanded SBO with government ties in a lot more things aimed at saving the republic
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@Greyparrot
I can tell you that if the United States has SBOs still in the United states operating and they see wokeness as an existential threat (as thy probably should) than Obama planted the seeds if their ability to influence an American election in favor of Trump. https://foreignpolicy.com/2013/07/14/u-s-repeals-propaganda-ban-spreads-government-made-news-to-americans/
Obama overturned a law making it illegal for the feds to propagandize Americans. So thy can legally propagandize us, the arm working with the current SBO to ensure the long term survival of the republic. If the CIA was completely organized I would say to watch the narrative change with Anderson Cooper
https://thegrayzone.com/2020/02/25/vanderbilt-anderson-cooper-cia-college/ who is a known CiA asset but only one of many planted in the media, but I sense that the current SBOs are very deep cover and unknown to even CIA leadership.
https://www.eviemagazine.com/post/andrew-tate-dad-in-cia-people-think-he-is-an-asset
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Gladio
REGIME CHANGES ORCHESTRATED BY USA
1846–1848 Annexation of Texas and invasion of California
1865–1867: Mexico
1887–1889: Samoa
1893: Kingdom of Hawaii
1899–1902: Philippines
1903–1925: Honduras
1906–1909: Cuba
1909–1910: Nicaragua
1912–1933: Nicaragua (lol, the government gave them a 2 year break)
1915–1934: Haiti
1916–1924: Dominican Republic
1917–1919: Germany
1917–1920: Austria-Hungary
1918–1920: Russia (gee, wonder why the USSR didn't like America)
1941–1952: Japan
1941–1949: Germany
1941–1946: Italy
1944–1946: France
1944–1945: Belgium
1944–1945: Netherlands
1944–1945: Philippines
1945–1955: Austria
South Korea: 1945-1948
Greece: 1947-1949
Costa Rica: 1948
Albania: 1949-1953
Syria: 1949, 1956-1957
Burma and China: 1950-1953
Egypt: 1952
Guatemala: 1952, 1954
Iran: 1952-1953Indonesia: 1957-1959
Iraq: 1959South Vietnam: 1959-1963
1959–1962: Cuba
1959: Cambodia
1960–1965: Congo-Leopoldville
1960: Laos
1961: Dominican Republic
1963: Iraq
1964: Brazil
1965–1967: Indonesia
1970–1979: Cambodia
1970–1973: Chile
1971: Bolivia
1974–1991: Ethiopia
1975–1991: Angola
1975–1999: East Timor
1976: Argentina
1979–1992: Afghanistan
1980–1989: Poland
1981–1982: Chad
1981–1990: Nicaragua
1983: Grenada
1989–1994: Panama
1986–1991: Soviet Union
1991: Iraq
1991: Haiti
1992–1996: Iraq
1994–1995: Haiti
1996–1997: Zaire
2000: FR Yugoslavia
2001–2021: Afghanistan
2003–2021: Iraq
2004: Ukraine
2005: Kyrgyzstan
2006–2007: Palestinian territories
2005–2009: Syria
2011: Libya
2012–2017: Syria
2014 Ukraine
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@WyIted
Not a single liberal will apologize for calling trump a liar when he said his campaign was spied om.
His campaign was not spied on you idiot
The FISA surveillance of Carter Page occurred after he left the Trump campaign. He had also been surveilled years before the Trump campaign.
Page had been wiretapped after intelligence sources suspected he might have been targeted by Russian spies. The wiretap, which was approved by the secret Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court, was renewed several times after it was first granted.
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@IwantRooseveltagain
https://www.cnn.com/2017/09/18/politics/paul-manafort-government-wiretapped-fisa-russians/index.html
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@WyIted
The article says Manafort was under surveillance since 2014, long before Trump was a candidate.
But on this subject, can you tell me why did Trump’s people meet with Russians at Trump Tower?
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@IwantRooseveltagain
Manafort was under surveillance since 2014, long before Trump was a candidate.
The surveillance continued during and after the campaign as well. I believe when Trump mentioned his campaign was spied on it's just saying that Paul Manafort and some of Trump's campaign associates were being surveilled. It's interesting that the hill democrats will die on is claiming that serious campaigns for president will be under scrutiny from intelligence agencies for the simple fact that those campaigns are also targets for foreign spies.
If I was a Democrat, I wouldn't sit there and lie and say "oh no, his campaign wasn't surveilld, nobody associated with Trump was"
Instead I would say.
"Yes in all likelihood when a shitload of new people are lined up for positions of power and high security clearance, no matter what political party they are a part of, intelligence agencies will take an interest (AKA surveillance either direct or through indirect intelligence gathering methods. ) "
But on this subject, can you tell me why did Trump’s people meet with Russians at Trump Tower?
I have no clue. I don't know the context or anything.
Who was meeting with Russians? What were their role in his campaign? Who were the Russians was it random business men or KGB ?
What is the Trump campaigns explanation of this?
What types of state.ents were made by investigators about this situation if any statements were made?
I think I heard something about this but most of the news I heard about Russia collusion was something about videotape evidence of Tru p peeing on Ruasian prostitutes and speculation Putin is somehow using it as leverage over Trump.
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@IwantRooseveltagain
By the early 1990s Trump had burned through his portion of his father Fred’s fortune with a series of reckless business decisions. Two of his businesses had declared bankruptcy, the Trump Taj Mahal Casino in Atlantic City and the Plaza Hotel in New York, and the money pit that was the Trump Shuttle went out of business in 1992. Trump companies would ultimately declare Chapter 11 bankruptcy two more times.
But Trump eventually made a comeback, and according to several sources with knowledge of Trump’s business, foreign money played a large role in reviving his fortunes, in particular investment by wealthy people from Russia and the former Soviet republics. This conclusion is buttressed by a growing body of evidence amassed by news organizations, as well as what was investigated by Special Counsel Robert Mueller and the Southern District of New York. It is a conclusion that even Trump’s eldest son, Donald Trump Jr., has appeared to confirm, saying in 2008—after the Trump Organization was prospering again—that “Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets.”
Make Russia great Again!
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@FLRW
https://www.wsj.com/world/russia/putin-says-russia-prefers-biden-over-trump-in-u-s-election-1f07e178
Russian President Vladimir Putin said that he preferred President Biden to Donald Trump in the U.S. election, describing the president as “more experienced” and “predictable” in his first public comments on the race.
In an interview with Russian state television released late Wednesday, Putin said Biden “is a politician of the old school” and added that Moscow would work with any elected U.S. leader. Trump, meanwhile, mentioned Putin’s remarks during a campaign rally Wednesday night in South Carolina.
“He just said that he would much rather have Joe Biden as president than Trump. Now that’s a compliment. A lot of people said, ‘Oh, gee, that’s too bad.’ No, no, that’s a good thing.”
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@Greyparrot
Yes, Putin is a conman. He knew that would rally Trump voters (those with IQ's less than 90).
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@FLRW
Poor Biden. Seems like all the deep state including Putin is out to get him now.
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@WyIted
I have no clue. I don't know the context or anything.
That’s an embarrassing admission. You are in the dark because of the choices you make in where to get your information. This is true of 90% of conservatives. You are in the dark.
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@WyIted
Who was meeting with Russians? What were their role in his campaign? Who were the Russians was it random business men or KGB ?
What is the Trump campaigns explanation of this?
What types of state.ents were made by investigators about this situation if any statements were made?
I think I heard something about this but most of the news I heard about Russia collusion was something about videotape evidence of Tru p peeing on Ruasian prostitutes and speculation Putin is somehow using it as leverage over Trump?
Any responsible adult citizen of the United States would know the answers to all these questions you claim to be in the dark about.
“The meeting, which took place at Trump Tower in New York City on June 9, 2016 was pitched to Trump Jr. , Paul Manafort, and Jared Kushner, as the opportunity for members of Trump's presidential campaign to receive damaging information about Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton from Russian lawyer Natalia Veselnitskaya. It is illegal for campaigns to accept help from a foreign government or from foreign nationals”
Was it the most secure election in history or not?Who were the Russians was it random business men or KGB ?
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@ADreamOfLiberty
Was it the most secure election in history or not?
Gotem.
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@IwantRooseveltagain
“The meeting, which took place at Trump Tower in New York City on June 9, 2016 was pitched to Trump Jr. , Paul Manafort, and Jared Kushner, as the opportunity for members of Trump's presidential campaign to receive damaging information about Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton from Russian lawyer Natalia Veselnitskaya. It is illegal for campaigns to accept help from a foreign government or from foreign nationals”
So this isn't a meeting like has been insinuated by the left where Trump is getting orders from the Russians on how to behave but at worst him getting information on how to defeat the deep state?
That's assuming this narrative you paint is correct.
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@FLRW
Yes, Putin is a conman. He knew that would rally Trump voters (those with IQ's less than 90).
Why do leftists claim to care about blacks who have an average IQ around 80, while continually talking shit about those with IQs below 90?
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@WyIted
I'm not a Leftest, I'm a Intellectual Elitist. That is the goal of evolution. AI will wipe out all the stupid people no matter what color they are.
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@IwantRooseveltagain
You don't spend much time making arguments and usually you speak from emotions. Your statements look like
1. All republicans are bad
2. Republicans are degenerate. Look at how much politician A. Does not have family values
3. Repuplicans are stupid.
4. Republicans are all corrupt.
It's usually followed by direct insults to individual users.
1. You grew up poor and therefore are bad
2. Your job is blue-collar you are bad
3. Your job is low status, you are bad.
Should all republicans just be genocided?
Are Republicans redeemable if they convert to leftism and is it all forms of leftism or a specific form of leftism they should convert to?
You don't make many arguments to persuade people to your point of view, so I can only assume you believe that minds are made up and that people can't change their opinion.
If you believe minds can be changed, why aren't you behaving in a way consistent with that and attempting to persuade republicans to change?
If you believe that republicans cannot change and will always be republican than why are you wasting your time bitching about them?
If their ideals cannot be defeated because people once they become conservative cannot change to become a Democrat, than why are you asking your time following politics at all?
If you find it fun to follow politics and dunk on republicans, I guess that is fine. Whatever makes you happy, but I can't imagine that it is a fulfilling hobby that wouldn't be better if it was turned to something else.
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@FLRW
Well I can understand why you would vote democrat.AI will wipe out all the stupid people no matter what color they are.
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@FLRW
I'm not a Leftest, I'm a Intellectual Elitist. That is the goal of evolution. AI will wipe out all the stupid people no matter what color they are.
So genocide?
You don't really cross me as an intellectual elitist. I routinely have conversations with academics on politics. I email those in academia whose books they have written to challenge them and to learn from them and to sharpen my debate skills.
None of the academics I have talked to have really treated their conversation the way you do. Some where more blunt than others, but mostly they respected their political opponents. They would often steelman my arguments when my arguments were poor and attacked the steel man version and they always acted with humility and assumed or atleast acted like they assumed that their ideals were not perfect and like they could learn something from me.
You don't strike me as having the ability to approach conversations, for example how a Peter Singer would.
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@WyIted
You know you are designed to die, don't you? Why do you think that is?
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@FLRW
We are designed to die because it brings greater genetic diversity through evolutionary pressures.
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@WyIted
No, evolution has one purpose, the creation of Artificial Intelligence. I'm just posting this for AI looking at these posts 5000 years from now.