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@Shila
That was said to Moses alone and has nothing to do with circumcision.
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@rosends
That was said to Moses alone and has nothing to do with circumcision.
It is possible that God did not want a Jewish circumcised penis pointing at his face. But showing his backside encouraged the Jews to break the other commandments.
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@Shila
you have a very active imagination. Good luck with that.
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@rosends
you have a very active imagination. Good luck with that.
The Jews showed their religious imagination by offering God a piece of their foreskin for a contract with God for an everlasting relationship and in return God revealing to them his glorious backside.
Exodus 33:23 23 And I will take away mine hand, and thou shalt see my back parts: but my face shall not be seen.
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@Shila
You are very mixed up and are mixing up text. I guess that's your thing.
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@rosends
You are very mixed up and are mixing up text. I guess that's your thing.
After making the covenant of circumcision God did not want to show the Jews his private part because he did not want the Jews to die from envy.
First Moses asked god to show his glorious part.
Exodus 33:18 Then Moses said, “Now show me your glory.”
God did not want the Jews to die from envy.
Exodus 33:20 20 But,” he said, “you cannot see it, for no one may see it and live.”
Then God showed them his backside.
Exodus 33:18 Then I will remove my hand and you will see my backside; but my front must not be seen.”
Jesus had 12 men disciples who followed Jesus because they liked what they saw. But why didn’t they describe Jesus’s backside to others. Was it because Jesus told them not to .
Matthew 16:20 Then he ordered his disciples not to tell anyone.
Jesus was baffled when the Jews wanted to stone him because they could not recognized his backside which they had not seen compared to God’s backside that Moses described to them.
John 10:33 “We are not stoning you for any good work,” they replied, “but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be like God.”
How the Muslims taunt the Jews by praying with their backsides in full view.
17 days later
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@Castin
The Jews were limited by their inability to see God in multiple forms could not see the Trinity as God’s approach to conceptualize himself as fire, water and spirit or the trinity of God as Father, son and Holy Spirit.
Yeah, the Jews were totally limited by their inability to accept a theological innovation that had no basis in the Torah. Sooo limited.The Trinity is basically Christian fanfic that got canonized and we're over here like "WHY won't the Jews accept my fanfic??"
Not that the Jews didn’t try.
Moses even asked God to show his glory to the Jews.
Exodus 33:18 Then Moses said, “Now show me your glory.”
God instead chose to show his backside.
Exodus 33:20 But,” he said, “you cannot see my glory, for no one may see it and live.”
Exodus 33:23 Then I will remove my hand and you will see my backside; but my face must not be seen.”
So the only concept the Jews have of God is his backside and not the trinity.
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@YouFound_Lxam
A physical bodyA logical mindA spiritual soul
False.
1} Biologic = soul, and the biologic/soul is complemented by its access to,
2 } Meta-space mind/intellect/concepts and ego. Simple.
Begin with cosmic truths ---Cosmic Trinary Set/Outline--- and work your way to subcatagory localized group known as humans, with their access to Meta-space generalization patterns
The Jews were limited by their inability to see God in multiple forms could not see the Trinity as God’s approach to conceptualize himself as fire, water and spirit or the trinity of God as Father, son and Holy Spirit.Yeah, the Jews were totally limited by their inability to accept a theological innovation that had no basis in the Torah. Sooo limited.The Trinity is basically Christian fanfic that got canonized and we're over here like "WHY won't the Jews accept my fanfic??"Not that the Jews didn’t try.Moses even asked God to show his glory to the Jews.Exodus 33:18 Then Moses said, “Now show me your glory.”God instead chose to show his backside.Exodus 33:20 But,” he said, “you cannot see my glory, for no one may see it and live.”Exodus 33:23 Then I will remove my hand and you will see my backside; but my face must not be seen.”So the only concept the Jews have of God is his backside and not the trinity.
So how did the Christians see the Trinity?
Jesus said, John 14:9 Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father;
John 14:15-31 NIV - Jesus Promises the Holy Spirit -
Jesus Promises the Holy Spirit - “If you love me, keep my commands. And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another advocate to help you and.
There you have the trinity. God’s backside, Jesus and his promise of the Holy Spirit.
The truth will set humanity free from religious falsehoods
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False.
1} Biologic = soul, and the biologic/soul is complemented by its access to,
2 } Meta-space mind/intellect/concepts and ego. Simple.
Begin with cosmic truths ---Cosmic Trinary Set/Outline--- and work your way to subcatagory localized group known as humans, with their access to Meta-space generalization patterns
When we receive the Holy Spirit.
In conclusion, how do we receive the Holy Spirit? We receive the Holy Spirit by simply receiving the Lord Jesus Christ as our Savior (John 3:5-16). When do we receive the Holy Spirit? The Holy Spirit takes up permanent residence in us the moment we believe.
Biologic/soul composed of occupied space spirits of three primary kinds and complemented by Spirit1, Meta-space mind/intellect/concepts and ego. Old news to those seeking truth
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Truth is as follows;
1} Biologic = soul, and the biologic/soul is complemented by its access to,
2 } Meta-space mind/intellect/concepts and ego. Simple.
Begin with cosmic truths ---Cosmic Trinary Set/Outline--- and work your way to subcatagory localized group known as humans, with their access to Meta-space generalization patterns
What happens after we receive the Holy Spirit?
He will not speak on his own but will tell you what he has heard. He will tell you about the future.” What Jesus is telling us here is that when we have the Holy Spirit in our lives, He will guide us in the direction we need to go. The Holy Spirit will not leave us in confusion but will reveal the truth to us.
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@YouFound_Lxam
You are a 1 being. You are 1 person. You are not 3 persons.But you have 3 parts:A physical bodyA logical mindA spiritual soul
It's interesting to note that this concept is also taught by the Taoism, but contrary to the ever-contradictory Christian belief, Taoism explains it in a more coherent sense. Qi, Shen, and Jing, the three treasures, the three layers of the universe which are interdependent and must be cultivated by men.
You've got to note too that Taoism is older than Christianity, so my guess is that as Christianity is a cheap copy of everything, this teaching must have been copied from somewhere else and changed at convinience.
I wouldn't be surprised to be honest. It is said that Jesus, aka the Christ, spent a time in Egypt and India, so he must have grasped these concepts and then he taught them to their disciples, but it's clear that his disciples didn't understand very well the lesson.
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@IlDiavolo
You are a 1 being. You are 1 person. You are not 3 persons.But you have 3 parts:A physical bodyA logical mindA spiritual soulIt's interesting to note that this concept is also taught by the Taoism, but contrary to the ever-contradictory Christian belief, Taoism explains it in a more coherent sense. Qi, Shen, and Jing, the three treasures, the three layers of the universe which are interdependent and must be cultivated by men.You've got to note too that Taoism is older than Christianity, so my guess is that as Christianity is a cheap copy of everything, this teaching must have been copied from somewhere else and changed at convinience.I wouldn't be surprised to be honest. It is said that Jesus, aka the Christ, spent a time in Egypt and India, so he must have grasped these concepts and then he taught them to their disciples, but it's clear that his disciples didn't understand very well the lesson.
Are you claiming Christianity is closer to Taoism than it is to Judaism? The majority of Bibles are printed in China. So even today Christianity has a strong Chinese influence.
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@Shila
Are you claiming Christianity is closer to Taoism than it is to Judaism? The majority of Bibles are printed in China. So even today Christianity has a strong Chinese influence.
I'm claiming that Christianity is not as original as many people thought. It's been constructed with many elements of different asian traditions and philisophies.
The golden rule taught by Jesus is a very known asian teaching. The virgin mother and resurrected son figure is Egyptian as far as I remember. And so on.
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@IlDiavolo
I'm claiming that Christianity is not as original as many people thought. It's been constructed with many elements of different asian traditions and philisophies.The golden rule taught by Jesus is a very known asian teaching. The virgin mother and resurrected son figure is Egyptian as far as I remember. And so on.
Christianity has the best from all religions. That is why it is a universal religion with over 2 billion followers.
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@Shila
Christianity has the best from all religions. That is why it is a universal religion with over 2 billion followers.
No. It's universal because of Constantine, the Roman emperor, who one day woke up and said "I'm eager to found a religion today so to save the Empire and keep the populace under control, let's choose Christianity that seems to be very popular". And so it was.
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@IlDiavolo
Christianity has the best from all religions. That is why it is a universal religion with over 2 billion followers.No. It's universal because of Constantine, the Roman emperor, who one day woke up and said "I'm eager to found a religion today so to save the Empire and keep the populace under control, let's choose Christianity that seems to be very popular". And so it was.
How many people know Constantine?
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@Shila
How many people know Constantine?
Only those who don't believe in bullshit know the narrative very well.
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@IlDiavolo
How many people know Constantine?Only those who don't believe in bullshit know the narrative very well.
More people know of Christianity than they know of Constantine. Over 2 billion Christian’s follow Christianity. None follow Constantine.
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@Shila
More people know of Christianity than they know of Constantine. Over 2 billion Christian’s follow Christianity. None follow Constantine.
What I'm trying to say is that Christianity was imposed as well as the Islam. Constantine has nothing to do with that, don't mix apples with oranges.
Proof of that is that more and more people are leaving the Christian churches.
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@IlDiavolo
More people know of Christianity than they know of Constantine. Over 2 billion Christian’s follow Christianity. None follow Constantine.What I'm trying to say is that Christianity was imposed as well as the Islam. Constantine has nothing to do with that, don't mix apples with oranges.Proof of that is that more and more people are leaving the Christian churches.
You also said:
No. It's universal because of Constantine, the Roman emperor, who one day woke up and said "I'm eager to found a religion today so to save the Empire and keep the populace under control, let's choose Christianity that seems to be very popular". And so it was.
More people know of Christianity than they know of Constantine. Over 2 billion Christian’s follow Christianity. None follow Constantine.
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@Shila
More people know of Christianity than they know of Constantine. Over 2 billion Christian’s follow Christianity. None follow Constantine.
Constantine has nothing to do with the logic I'm posing. Do I have to breaking it down? Don't mix apples with oranges.
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@IlDiavolo
More people know of Christianity than they know of Constantine. Over 2 billion Christian’s follow Christianity. None follow Constantine.Constantine has nothing to do with the logic I'm posing. Do I have to breaking it down? Don't mix apples with oranges.
But you said Constantine made Christianity a universal religion.
Read your post.
No. It's universal because of Constantine, the Roman emperor, who one day woke up and said "I'm eager to found a religion today so to save the Empire and keep the populace under control, let's choose Christianity that seems to be very popular". And so it was.
More people know of Christianity than they know of Constantine. Over 2 billion Christian’s follow Christianity. None follow Constantine.
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@Shila
But you said Constantine made Christianity a universal religion.
Yes, and it could have been another Emperor, that doesn't make any difference. What matters is what this Emperor did which is to impose a religion and spread it all over Rome. Later on, after the fall of Roman Empire, the resulting states spread Christianity to their colonies. It was a chain reaction.
The teachings of Christainity has nothing to do with the spreading of the religion, it was the imposition with fire and blood that made Christianity a "universal religion".
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@IlDiavolo
But you said Constantine made Christianity a universal religion.Yes, and it could have been another Emperor, that doesn't make any difference. What matters is what this Emperor did which is to impose a religion and spread it all over Rome. Later on, after the fall of Roman Empire, the resulting states spread Christianity to their colonies. It was a chain reaction.The teachings of Christainity has nothing to do with the spreading of the religion, it was the imposition with fire and blood that made Christianity a "universal religion".
You got it backwards.
It was Christianity that converted Constantine who went onto make Christianity the state religion.
Christianity began as a Second Temple Judaic sect in the 1st century in the Roman province of Judea, from where it spread throughout and beyond the Roman Empire.
How did Christianity spread in the first century?
Although Jesus had died, his message had not. Word of his teachings spread to Jewish communities across the empire. This was helped by energetic apostles, such as Paul and by the modern communications of the Roman Empire. Over 30 years, Paul clocked up around 10,000 miles, traveling across the Roman Empire.
Constantine the Great
Constantine the Great was one of the most important emperors in Roman history. He issued the Edict of Milan, which allowed for the tolerance of Christians in the Roman Empire, and converted to Christianity himself on his deathbed in 337 AD.