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@Greyparrot
Are you thinking maybe 45 like I am?
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@FLRW
Again, serious low effort trolling.
This is the kind of low effort that is driving down Biden's poll numbers.
Do better Democrats, Do better.
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@Greyparrot
The age of "rules for thee but not for me" is coming to a close as most people are absolutely fed up with the hypocrisy. If any of your charges had any merit, it would be done from a place of objective fairness, not what we have currently.
It is being done from a place of objective fairness, that's how a court of law works. If Trump was being treated unfairly then he would have a factual or a legal argument to stand on. He doesn't, that's why all he can do is what he always does anytime he's accused by anyone of any kind of wrongdoing no matter how obvious - pound the table and decry himself as the victim of a grand conspiracy with not even an attempt to rationally support it. That should make you think, but it won't.
The polls against Biden reflect this, and you know it.
The polls reflect the effectiveness of the 24 hour propaganda machine that Nixon never had. Again, if there was a logical, factual case to be made here people like yourself would be focusing on that instead of these empty rhetorical epithets.
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@Double_R
The polls reflect the effectiveness of the 24 hour propaganda machine...
This is a laughable claim. The propaganda machine is objectively all in for Biden. 24/7 as you put it.
The polls reflect the failure of the propaganda machine, and that scares you, because you believe the country would be better off back in the hands of the elite oligarchy than some elected Orangeman.
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@Greyparrot
The polls reflect the failure of the propaganda machine, and that scares you, because you believe the country would be better off back in the hands of the elite oligarchy than some elected Orangeman.
Again, not a single attempt to argue a single fact or make a rational case of any kind. Just more bluster in an attempt to bulldoze your viewpoint over mine, and then laughably pretend I'm the one who's either in denial or arguing dishonestly.
Go ahead, make the case that Trump is innocent or at least that any rational observer should see this as some kind of political persecution. I'll wait.
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@Double_R
It doesn't matter what I think. The American public overwhelmingly disagrees with the 24/7 propaganda machine narrative. You really have had to screw up pretty badly as a president to have that happen. The public overwhelmingly believes the current administration operates under a "rules for thee and not for me" scheme. Nothing you have written here addresses any of that. How you go about changing that perception is not "more of the same," but I guess you wouldn't call it a Cult if people believed in something other than the status quo Biden.
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@Greyparrot
Omg you are Putin
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@Best.Korea
Да, он
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@Double_R
make the case that Trump is innocent
How would he be innocent? He has more sins than Satan. He is perfect representative of Christians and other radical groups in USA.
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@Best.Korea
Lol, Umad too bro?
Of course you are.
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@Greyparrot
Yes I mad bro
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@Best.Korea
If you want Trump to lose, you had better replace Biden with a real Democrat.
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@Greyparrot
You mean replace Trump with a reptile?
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@Double_R
The reason you don't blame Bernie Sanders for the shooting of Steve Scalise is because you recognize how patently absurd that would be. Nothing about Bernie or his rhetoric suggests in any way that he would have wanted that, meanwhile the effects of Trump's rhetoric has had a tangible and unmistakable effect on public sentiment towards political violence.
And Democrats haven’t? What about Maxine Waters? What about Kamala Harris open funding bails for rioters after George Floyd riots. Democratic rhetoric in the form of ending cash bail is leading to robberies and murders in NYC, Chicago, San Francisco, you name it. Trump can say what he wants; Maxine can say what she wants.
It is not a coincidence that support for political violence is at a generational high at the same time we have a president who reminisces about the good old days when the political hecklers would be carried out in a stretcher and refers to his political opposition as vermin.
Political violence isn’t unique to the modern America. It has been pervasive throughout American history regardless of who is or isn’t in office.
It's not a coincidence that the first time we've ever had a president refuse to concede defeat and leave peacefully is also the first time we have ever seen the US capitol overtaken by mob rioters and Congress being forced to evacuate instead of certifying an election.
Trump left office and Congress certified the election. An insurrection wouldn’t be people causally strolling inside the building. There was more damage caused by George Floyd rioters than these insurrectionists.
Nearly every single J6 rioter has admitted they were there because they thought Trump told them to be there, the guy who mailed the pipe bombs was specifically targeting the people Trump was attacking, and the guy who attacked Paul Pelosi did so because he was radicalized by Trump rhetoric.
Trump did not tell them to enter the Capitol building. Please find me the quote that says he did. Paul Pelosi’s attacker has a history of changing affiliations. We’re only talking about him cause his victim is famous. What about the countless Americans who lost everything cause Kamala Harris put rioters back on the streets?
People like you would pretend it's all just coincidence, but anyone who's ever studied the impact of political rhetoric saw all of those coming and warned us all for years. Trump not only ignored all of that, he's only turned it up higher. To say he's not doing this intentionally defies all credibility.
Campaigning has always been vicious. It is nothing new in American politics. There were people calling Presidents far far worse things in American history. Even if he is saying all of this intentionally, it is within his right to do so.
And if everything I've said was just TLDR for you, Google stochastic terrorism. It's not that complicated.
Ok
The false equivalences from Trump supporters is incredibly tiring.
Americans are fed up with hypocrisy whether you like it or not. It’s an effective talking point whether you think it is tiring or not.
First of all, I think you know Trump is guilty of at the very least some of the charges against him, unless you really think lying to the FBI about the nuclear documents you're hiding next to your toilet is legal.
Irrelevant. I happen to think the Archives didn’t do their job to begin with, and the statutes are unclear.
If you want to know why a top presidential candidate is being charged, look at that candidates actions, then ask yourself why the candidate isn't even attempting to argue the facts or the law in court.
Cause media, believe it or not, is not the arbitrator of truth. Neither you, nor I have the full information. The only people that do are the prosecutors and defense. You are innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Either way, I don’t think it’s going to be a fair trial, especially in DC and NY where the jury pool will be tainted.
But setting that aside... Open fascist? If you know anything about how fascism actually works you would know that Joe Biden is the opposite of that in every way. You're clearly not being serious.
Lmao. Putting parents in jail for speaking at school board meetings. Investigating the candidate who is likely to be your political opponent. Putting grandparents in jail for decades for simply walking inside the Capitol while Floyd rioters roam free. Controlled media where journalists‘ questions are pre-planned (don’t even argue this one; everyone knows the media is biased towards Joe). Not to mention open censorship of conservatives.
As a last point, let’s analyze the quote by Trump in the first place: “We will root out the communists, Marxists, fascists and the radical left thugs that live like vermin.”
By disagreeing with this, you are in favor of let’s see: communism, Marxism, FASCISM, and radical left thugs.
Where is “political opponents” mentioned anywhere in this quote?
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@Greyparrot
Ironic part is that Trump called fascists vermin. And yet he’s the fascist. Ultimate big brain.
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@Double_R
Simple yes or no question: do you think fascists are vermin?
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@ILikePie5
Ironic part is that Trump called fascists vermin.
Its called faking orgasm.
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@ILikePie5
Where is “political opponents” mentioned anywhere in this quote?
Exactly. They stand with Marxism.
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@ILikePie5
At this point, shitlibs wasting oxygen bashing Trump instead of fixing Biden are just asking for more of the same Trump.
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@Greyparrot
I mean, how small does a brain need to be to think that Trump 2 is a good movie?
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@Greyparrot
They stand with Marxism.
Hitler hated Marxism.
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@Best.Korea
Hitler hated Marxism.
So do a lot of people.
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@Greyparrot
So do a lot of people
Yeah, like Christians, MAGAs, nazis, Proud boys, right wing radicals, white supremacists, nationalists, fascists, the wealthy, corrupt politicians, racists, greedy, and unjust.
So yeah, lots of people.
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@Best.Korea
Normal people too. Maybe don't be a Marxist supporter?
Unless you want both crazy people and normal people to shun you.
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@Greyparrot
Marxism is an educational program for anyone willing to seek power.
Masses control everything and he who controls masses controls everything.
Of course, not everyone understands Marxism and its purpose, which is kinda sad given how simple it is.
I think Kim Jong Il explained it best when he said that masses are the main centre of struggle and we must struggle for the masses by controlling education from early youth.
Its kinda like what Israel did to Palestinians. Israel made sure that Palestinian children live in horrible circumstances where Israeli often abuse them, which creates breeding ground for terrorists, which creates excuse for Israel to abuse Palestinians more, which again creates more terrorists.
Of course, the left uses Marxism to fight for whats right. The right uses Marxism to fight for the rich, which is a doomed struggle as the more wealth rich win the more support they lose.
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@Double_R
This is your tactics of fascism being used by the political left example? An example of one comedian who went way too far with a joke, caught severe public backlash from every corner of our society, got fired from CNN, got her comedy tour cancelled, faced federal investigations and has had to apologize vehemently for all of it? Some violent political movement that left is.
It represents, as you put it, a subtle desentisization into political violence. The left cemented themselves as the catalysts of American political violence with the BLM riots anyway.
Ok, now show me the prominent left wing figures who joked about it, and the crowd of supporters who laughed along with them.
After an IRA attempt on her life:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brighton_hotel_bombing
"At the time of the bombing, the miners' strike was underway. Morrissey, frontman of the English alternative rock band the Smiths, joked shortly after: "The only sorrow of the Brighton bombing is that Thatcher escaped unscathed."[17] David Bret wrote in the book Morrissey: Scandal & Passion that "The tabloids were full of such remarks; jokes about the tragedy were cracked on radio and television programmes. A working-men's club in South Yorkshire seriously considered a whip-round[18] "to pay for the bomber to have another go".[19] In 1986, English punk band the Angelic Upstarts celebrated[20] the IRA's assassination attempt with their single "Brighton Bomb". They released an album of the same name in 1987"
Meanwhile you freak out when some deranged lunatic attacked a representatives husband and Trump commented on the fact that he didn't succeed.
I asked how disrespecting your political opposition aids in getting things accomplished for the people you represent, not for your opinion on whether you think others should be disrespected.
Disrespect can crush your opponent, asking your job easier. Don't overcomplicate things.
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@Greyparrot
It doesn't matter what I think. The American public overwhelmingly disagrees with the 24/7 propaganda machine narrative. You really have had to screw up pretty badly as a president to have that happen. The public overwhelmingly believes the current administration operates under a "rules for thee and not for me" scheme.
So in other words, it doesn't matter what reality says, what matters is what people think about it.
Well politically you are certainly correct, but this isn't a campaign, it's a debate site so what you think about it is kind of the point.
That's fine though, if I were trying to defend the indefensible I guess I would do the same thing.
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@ILikePie5
And Democrats haven’t? What about Maxine Waters? What about Kamala Harris open funding bails for rioters after George Floyd riots.
No. No conspiracy. A total false equivalency
Democratic rhetoric in the form of ending cash bail is leading to robberies and murders in NYC, Chicago, San Francisco
Not only is there no proof of any correlation, violent crime is down not up. You only think it’s up because you watch right wing media.