Question for Trump Supporters

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I don't see any differences. Same results no matter who runs the country. So by definition that makes them all fascists. They both dictate how I should live my life with endless rules, regulations and taxes that will never go away, not ever.
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Far left radicals are vermin, and I don't care what name you call a person who attacks far-left radicals.

The Democrat party deserves every ounce of vitriol it has earned through the deliberate harboring and coddling of far-left thugs the past decade while the country goes to hell. I don't really care who does it, but it needs to be called out, and it needs to be done so constructive progress can happen instead of the current mindless chaos of change and regression.
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Umadbro?
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Sieg Heil !!!!
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I'll take that as a resounding "yes."
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I know you want a Slovenian sex worker back in as First Lady.
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Thank you for agreeing with me.
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Most people agree with leftist policies, did you know?
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Most people support abortions and high taxes for the rich. Republican policies are largely unwanted policies. Republicans are party of minority. Poor republicans ☹
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Even New York is done with the radical far-leftist takeover of illegal aliens shutting down social services for Americans.


Your time is done. You lost New York.
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@sadolite
I don't see any differences.
That's the problem
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Far left radicals are vermin
Another demonstration of how fascistic propaganda works.

I don't care what name you call a person who attacks far-left radicals.
That's because you don't understand fascism and/or the psychology behind it. The way you treat your political opposition matters, and every presidential candidate all the way up until Donald Trump understood that or at the very least cared about the consequences. That's a big part of how the country was held together for all these years.

The Democrat party deserves every ounce of vitriol it has earned through the deliberate harboring and coddling of far-left thugs the past decade while the country goes to hell. I don't really care who does it, but it needs to be called out, and it needs to be done so constructive progress can happen instead of the current mindless chaos of change and regression.
Right, and I suppose telling your supporters that the political opposition are vermin who need to be wiped out is a great way to do that.
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Just pointing out for the record that we're 4 pages in and not one individual who disagrees with me has even attempted to argue Trump is not a fascist.
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Another demonstration of how fascistic propaganda works.
Would you feel better if I called them parasites? You operate under the false assumption that bad behavior can never be called out due to identity status.

How about deplorable parasites.

Ultra-deplorable parasites? I am sure with enough money, the correct person can be paid to speak those words in a way you can feel pleasant and fluffy inside.
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OMG, Gp is a big George Santos fan.
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Lol, yes, Umad.
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@Double_R
So no answers, just a whataboutism. How surprising.
Here’s my answer: political violence is not okay. There are crazy people in the world. There will always be crazy people in the world. I don’t blame Bernie Sanders for the dude that shot Steve Scalise; however, you’re more than happy to blame Donald Trump for the attack on Paul Pelosi (for your own political gain).
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Just pointing out for the record that we're 4 pages in and not one individual who disagrees with me has even attempted to argue Trump is not a fascist. 
Lemme put it this way: even if Trump is a closeted fascist, Joe Biden is an open fascist and therefore I’d like to take my chances with Trump
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Imagine how tiring it must be to defend far-left extremist radicals all day long just to get the Orangeman....
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There will always be crazy people in the world. I don’t blame Bernie Sanders for the dude that shot Steve Scalise; however, you’re more than happy to blame Donald Trump for the attack on Paul Pelosi (for your own political gain).
Because there are crazy people, and more people going crazy every day, and no way of identifying who will become crazy next, that’s a good reason to ban assault weapons.

Because Bernie never encouraged people to shoot Republicans. Bernie never used the language “vermin”. Bernie never said “beat the hell out of them, I’ll pay your legal bills”

political violence is not okay.
But you’ll vote for a guy who encourages political violence because you’re a MAGA MORON 

Joe Biden is an open fascist and therefore I’d like to take my chances with Trump
That’s nonsense. Only a MAGA Moron believes something like that.

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Far left radicals are vermin
Libertarians are vermin. Vermin losers. They usually live alone and don’t make much money.

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B) Do you acknowledge that this is a tactic used by nearly every fascist throughout history?
Yes as well as a tactic used by the so called "defenders of democracy"
Provide one example

Loads of people make fun of magaret thatchers death day.
Was she  killed by a member of the political opposition for political reasons?

Politics doesn't need to respectful and I am sick and tired of hearing from people that it does. Politics is nasty for a reason.
Do you think the job of a politician is to get things accomplished for the good of the people they represent, or do you have done other idea of what they should set out to accomplish?

If it's the latter, please explain how disrespect aids in that goal.

If it's the former, please explain what we're missing.

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Provide one example

Was she  killed by a member of the political opposition for political reasons?
Nearly, yes

Do you think the job of a politician is to get things accomplished for the good of the people they represent, or do you have done other idea of what they should set out to accomplish?

If it's the latter, please explain how disrespect aids in that goal.

If it's the former, please explain what we're missing.
Disrespect aids in that goal because those who dont benefit the people should be disrespected
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Here’s my answer: political violence is not okay. There are crazy people in the world. There will always be crazy people in the world. I don’t blame Bernie Sanders for the dude that shot Steve Scalise; however, you’re more than happy to blame Donald Trump for the attack on Paul Pelosi (for your own political gain).
The reason you don't blame Bernie Sanders for the shooting of Steve Scalise is because you recognize how patently absurd that would be. Nothing about Bernie or his rhetoric suggests in any way that he would have wanted that, meanwhile the effects of Trump's rhetoric has had a tangible and unmistakable effect on public sentiment towards political violence.

It is not a coincidence that support for political violence is at a generational high at the same time we have a president who reminisces about the good old days when the political hecklers would be carried out in a stretcher and refers to his political opposition as vermin. It's not a coincidence that the first time we've ever had a president refuse to concede defeat and leave peacefully is also the first time we have ever seen the US capitol overtaken by mob rioters and Congress being forced to evacuate instead of certifying an election.

Nearly every single J6 rioter has admitted they were there because they thought Trump told them to be there, the guy who mailed the pipe bombs was specifically targeting the people Trump was attacking, and the guy who attacked Paul Pelosi did so because he was radicalized by Trump rhetoric. People like you would pretend it's all just coincidence, but anyone who's ever studied the impact of political rhetoric saw all of those coming and warned us all for years. Trump not only ignored all of that, he's only turned it up higher. To say he's not doing this intentionally defies all credibility.

And if everything I've said was just TLDR for you, Google stochastic terrorism. It's not that complicated.

Lemme put it this way: even if Trump is a closeted fascist, Joe Biden is an open fascist and therefore I’d like to take my chances with Trump
The false equivalences from Trump supporters is incredibly tiring.

First of all, I think you know Trump is guilty of at the very least some of the charges against him, unless you really think lying to the FBI about the nuclear documents you're hiding next to your toilet is legal. If you want to know why a top presidential candidate is being charged, look at that candidates actions, then ask yourself why the candidate isn't even attempting to argue the facts or the law in court.

But setting that aside... Open fascist? If you know anything about how fascism actually works you would know that Joe Biden is the opposite of that in every way. You're clearly not being serious.
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@Dr.Franklin
This is your tactics of fascism being used by the political left example? An example of one comedian who went way too far with a joke, caught severe public backlash from every corner of our society, got fired from CNN, got her comedy tour cancelled, faced federal investigations and has had to apologize vehemently for all of it? Some violent political movement that left is.

Was she  killed by a member of the political opposition for political reasons?
Nearly, yes
Ok, now show me the prominent left wing figures who joked about it, and the crowd of supporters who laughed along with them.

Disrespect aids in that goal because those who dont benefit the people should be disrespected
I asked how disrespecting your political opposition aids in getting things accomplished for the people you represent, not for your opinion on whether you think others should be disrespected.

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The false equivalences from Trump supporters is incredibly tiring.
Whether you think they are false or not is inconsequential. The age of "rules for thee but not for me" is coming to a close as most people are absolutely fed up with the hypocrisy. If any of your charges had any merit, it would be done from a place of objective fairness, not what we have currently. The polls against Biden reflect this, and you know it.

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I think Trump's IQ is actually less than the reported 73.
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I am sure you could find someone who would report it as a lower number than 73. This is some serious low-effort trolling, and it shows.