In the bible was jesus from the "flesh" of david?

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And a "brick wall"  of your own making. NONE of your claims will in any way make Jesus nor his mother of the line David.   You can deny these BIBLICAL facts all day long but it won't change anything.
Yes they both could, since you dont like the marriage option we'll look at the other, if marry is descendent of david through blood (not marriage) therefore jesus, descendent of the virgin marry, is of david.
oseph had absolutely nothing to do with the conception of Jesus No seed and no bloodline.. THE BIBLE CLEARLY STATES this.

Answer me this, Yes or No? Is the bible telling the truth when it tells us this:

"Joseph, son of David, do not be afraid to take Mary as your wife; for the Child who has been conceived in her is of the Holy Spirit"
That's the strawest straw-man to have ever been created. I never claimed david was involved, I argued marry would be descendent of david through marriage

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It is said that Joseph was more than 80yo when he accepted Mary as his wife, so I think the story as story makes sense because at this age and at this time was quite difficult that Joseph got bricked up and as a consequence impossible to have conceived a child, contrary to Mary who was 13yo and very fertile.
Hmm, you kinda caught my eye here, "It is said that joseph was more than 80 yo" by who/where/what?
You also said mary was 13 yo, where did you get this?

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 where did you get this?
History books. Also in the apocryphe gospels.
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Im just going to put it bluntly since im tired of responding to your text walls

you must address how the genealogy in luke does not link marry to david. 

While you try to do that, ill point out why it does.
Luke 3:23-38:
23 Jesus, when he began his ministry, was about thirty years of age, being the son (as was supposed) of Joseph, the son of Heli, 24 the son of Matthat, the son of Levi, the son of Melchi, the son of Jannai, the son of Joseph, 25 the son of Mattathias, the son of Amos, the son of Nahum, the son of Esli, the son of Naggai, 26 the son of Maath, the son of Mattathias, the son of Semein, the son of Josech, the son of Joda, 27 the son of Joanan, the son of Rhesa, the son of Zerubbabel, the son of Shealtiel,[a] the son of Neri, 28 the son of Melchi, the son of Addi, the son of Cosam, the son of Elmadam, the son of Er, 29 the son of Joshua, the son of Eliezer, the son of Jorim, the son of Matthat, the son of Levi, 30 the son of Simeon, the son of Judah, the son of Joseph, the son of Jonam, the son of Eliakim, 31 the son of Melea, the son of Menna, the son of Mattatha, the son of Nathan, the son of David, 32 the son of Jesse, the son of Obed, the son of Boaz, the son of Sala, the son of Nahshon, 33 the son of Amminadab, the son of Admin, the son of Arni, the son of Hezron, the son of Perez, the son of Judah, 34 the son of Jacob, the son of Isaac, the son of Abraham, the son of Terah, the son of Nahor, 35 the son of Serug, the son of Reu, the son of Peleg, the son of Eber, the son of Shelah, 36 the son of Cainan, the son of Arphaxad, the son of Shem, the son of Noah, the son of Lamech, 37 the son of Methuselah, the son of Enoch, the son of Jared, the son of Mahalaleel, the son of Cainan, 38 the son of Enos, the son of Seth, the son of Adam, the son of God.
Let's address the elephant in the room 1st, the genealogy doesn't say marry's name explicitly, this is because it was not common to put female's names into genealogies. Now let's look at the point of interest, it links "heli" to david. Heli is not joseph's biological farther it seems, since in matthew 1:1-2 says it was jacob. Heli is short for Heli-achim, a Hebrew alternate form for the Hebrew Joachim seems to be a variant form of Eliacim, which is abbreviated as Eli, a variant of Heli therefore making marry of david.
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History books. Also in the apocryphe gospels.
Why should I believe the apocryphe gospels, and which history books? Would you cite a source.

Cause I can, the catholic encyclopedia:
From the age at which Hebrew maidens became marriageable, it is possible that Mary gave birth to her Son when she was about thirteen or fourteen years of age. No historical document tells us how old she actually was at the time of the Nativity.
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Seth Brown, who has turned into a comedian because of his unbiblical ignorant notions to Jesus allegedly being from the lineage of David that are making us laugh wholeheartedly at his embarrassing expense,

YOUR QUOTE NOW THAT MEANS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ANYMORE, YOU'RE DONE!  "Im just going to put it bluntly since im tired of responding to your text walls
you must address how the genealogy in luke does not link marry to david.  While you try to do that, I'll point out why it does. Luke 3:23-38:

H-E-L-L-O, anybody home today, obviously not!  You're done, and you are finished with your unbiblical nonsense and jabberwocky relative to Jesus allegedly being from the blood line of David!  You don't seem to understand that your argument is over, kaput, terminated, completed, done, and over with because of my post #25 IN BLATANTLY SHOWING BIBLICALLY THAT MARY'S BLOOD LINE IS THAT OF A  LEVITE, and therefore canceling out her being from the line of David in any way whatsoever as shown in my link herewith: https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/10080/posts/415886


Furthermore, Mary can be chastised even further by reading my post #26 in showing that she being a LEVITE married outside of her tribal clan with Joseph being a true blood line of David, therefore, she went against Jesus as God as shown in Numbers 35:5-6 and committed sacrilege towards Jesus as explicitly shown in this link: https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/10080/posts/415887


Now, to save yourself from any further embarrassment in front of Jesus (Hebrews 4:13) and the membership of this Religion Forum, pack up your Bible ignorance and STUPIDITY and just go into hiding like Miss Tradesecret has to do when she makes herself as Bible dumbfounded as you are! To save what face you have left within this esteemed Religion Forum, that you have absolutely no business in being here in the first place,  take a long time off from here to  lick your wounds of defeat upon the topic at hand, and try and regroup yourself before you return to make us laugh again because of your outright Bible Stupidisms®️!


NEXT BIBLE FOOL THAT WANTS TO TAKE THE PLACE OF "SETH BROWN" RELATIVE TO ERRONEOUSLY SAYNG THAT JESUS IS IN THE BLOOD LINE OF KING DAVID, OF WHICH HE IS NOT, WILL BE ...?

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You never addressed what I pointed out biblically, you may begin addressing it now, how doesn't luke put marry as from david?
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Seth Brown, who has turned into a comedian because of his unbiblical ignorant notions to Jesus allegedly being from the lineage of David that are making us laugh wholeheartedly at his embarrassing expense,

WHY DO YOU WANT TO CONTINUE IN BEING SO BIBLE STUPID IN FRONT OF THE MEMBERSHIP WITH THIS QUOTE OF YOURS?: "You never addressed what I pointed out biblically, you may begin addressing it now, how doesn't luke put marry as from David?"

I POINTED OUT THAT LUKE 3:28-38 IS JESUS AND JOSEPHS GENEALOGY HEREWITH: https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/10080/posts/415812   FURTHERMORE, IT DOESN'T MATTER BECAUSE MARY IS A LEVITE AS I HAVE BIBLICALLY PROVEN IN MY POST #25 THAT YOU ARE EXPLICITLY "RUNNING AWAY" FROM, SO YOUR QUOTE ABOVE IS MOOT, YOU'RE DONE!!!!

Relative to your pitiful  post #34, I already made you embarrassed with my post #27 herewith: https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/10080/posts/415892

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It is not joseph's genealogy, Joseph's biological father is jacob in matthew 1, this traces it through heli. You dont understand the verse.
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Joseph had absolutely nothing to do with the conception of Jesus No seed and no bloodline.. THE BIBLE CLEARLY STATES this.

Answer me this, Yes or No? Is the bible telling the truth when it tells us this:

"Joseph, son of David, do not be afraid to take Mary as your wife; for the Child who has been conceived in her is of the Holy Spirit"
That's the strawest straw-man to have ever been created. I never claimed david was involved, I argued marry would be descendent of david through marriage
No strawman,  but some serious backpaddling going on there .  In your op you have claimed to be able to show us and prove " how Jesus is of the flesh of david". #1 

You even quoted  Matthew 22:41–42) as some kind of evidence#1 
SethClown wrote: Matthew 22:41–42) 41 Now while the Pharisees were gathered together, Jesus asked them this question: 42 “What do you think of the Messiah? Whose son is he?” They said to him, “The son of David.”
And confidently added, 

   SethClown wrote:" I think we can conclude from the bible that jesus is son of david, even if joseph's sperm wasn't the one that made jesus, since marry is of david from marriage.#1

Forgetting that of the  BIBLE states that the MESSIAH would be of "THE SEED" and bloodline of David.  When these BIBLICAL facts were pointed out to you,  you then switched your focus to Mary's bloodline. saying:


 SethClown wrote:I was missing something, I was ignorant and didn’t analyze the verse enough, read my 21st century view into the text. I re read it and realized marry is of David. #14

But that was bullshit too and can't help you either because it has been shown to you over and over again that she was a Levite and not of Judah.

No seed. No blood line . No messiah. 

Now. Off you go and stop being petulant.
















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Forgetting that of the  BIBLE states that the MESSIAH would be of "THE SEED" and bloodline of David.  When these BIBLICAL facts were pointed out to you,  you then switched your focus to Mary's bloodline. saying:
I may be mistaken, I haven't seen a verse that says "The seed" specifically.
But that was bullshit too and can't help you either because it has been shown to you over and over again that she was a Levite and not of Judah.
You keep on saying this but it hasnt, your pulling shit out of your ass, it has not been shown.
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Seth Brown, who has turned into a comedian because of his unbiblical ignorant notions to Jesus allegedly being from the lineage of David that are making us laugh wholeheartedly at his embarrassing expense,

YOUR BIBLE STUPID QUOTE IN FRONT OF THE MEMBERSHIP AGAIN!:  "It is not joseph's genealogy, Joseph's biological father is Jacob in matthew 1, this traces it through heli. You dont understand the verse."

LISTEN UP BIBLE FOOL, I don't care if Santa Clause is Joseph's father, because you only have TWO OPTIONS of which both fail miserably in trying to prove Jesus is from King Davids blood line!  

OPTION 1. Since Joseph WAS NOT Jesus' biological son through his seed of the flesh of David, as it had to be for Jesus to be the Messiah (Acts 2:30), then Jesus IS NOT the Messiah through Joseph his "Step-Father," period!

OPTION 2.  Since Mary is a LEVITE as shown in my post #25, that you continue to run away from at your embarrassing expense, therefore Mary is not from the lineage of King David,  and where God forbid, Jesus had LEVITE blood in Him at birth!  
Biblical proof that Mary is a LEVITE: https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/10080/posts/415886

Now, if you want to use your comical "one flesh" scenario of Mary subsequent to marrying Joseph has his lineage of King David through your misrepresentation of Genesis 2:24, then  this passages true meaning NOWHERE even alludes to Mary getting Josephs blood line from Joseph, NOWHERE, as shown in this link relative to the passage in question:  https://biblehub.com/commentaries/genesis/2-24.htm 


Your comical diatribe took you a long time in being totally Bible STUPID upon this topic, and for this fact, I am sorry that you wasted your time in total defeat upon this topic.

NEXT PSEUDO-CHRISTIAN BIBLE DUMMY LIKE "SETH BROWN" THAT CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH ABOUT JESUS NOT BEING THE MESSIAH AS BLATANTLY AND BIBLICALLY SHOWN, WILL BE ...?

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Do you think that the Bible STUPID Seth Brown was getting help from the #1 Bible Fool Miss Tradesecret upon this threads topic? Therefore, if you remember I easily Bible Slapped Silly®️ Miss Tradesecret awhile back upon this same topic, therefore if Seth Brown was getting his perceived facts upon this topic from Miss Tradesecret, then no wonder in why he lost this discussion so badly in front of the membership!  LOL!

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Stephen,

Do you think that the Bible STUPID Seth Brown was getting help from the #1 Bible Fool Miss Tradesecret upon this threads topic?

So much so that they could be the same dense clowns. Brother D.

OPTION 2.  Since Mary is a LEVITE as shown in my post #25, that you continue to run away from at your embarrassing expense, therefore Mary is not from the lineage of King David,  and where God forbid, Jesus had LEVITE blood in Him at birth!  
Biblical proof that Mary is a LEVITE: https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/10080/posts/415886

 And being "born of woman" it would make him as riddled with sin as his mother.
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Why should I believe the apocryphe gospels, and which history books? Would you cite a source.
I'm not sure what your goal is in opening a thread about Jesus's parents, whether to question the Christian faith or to find the truth, so it would be nice if you clear that up.

Meanwhile I make some points clear:

1. Apocryphe means "hidden", not false. This is from an academic point of view. If the catholic church cast the apocryphe books out it's because it's a matter of convinience and not of intelectual honesty.

2. You won't see any historian casting out historical material like the apocryphe books because that would be biased and not correct for the sake of an investigation. I already said that if the apocryphe books are considered apocryphe by the catholic church is because they want to square the biblical content with their faith. Example, the book of Enoc says more about UFO contact than faith, so it's cast out.

3. The issue of Jesus's parents' age is controversial, but many historians agree with what I've pointed out, that Mary was like 13 and Joseph was more than 80. It's not only because of the apocryphe books but also because in the "oficial" books Joseph is absent in great part of the rabbi's life.

4. My source is the book "los astronautas de Yavé" by JJ Benitez, writer and journalist who mention other historial investigations in his book. There are many papers about it out there if you want to go deeper in this subject.
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the book of Enoc says more about UFO contact than faith, so it's cast out.

Enoch is interesting for a few reasons. One being that it tells the story of how the "son's of the gods"  raped the daughters of men and were forced to marry them and were never allowed to return to their "heavenly stations". The reason was not because they had raped  the daughters of men, but because they had defiled themselves by having sexual intercourse with them.
 The bible plays down this episode seemingly to want to skim over the whole episode. 

"The sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose". Genesis 6:2 << and that is all we get on the matter.

Another reason is that it is riddled with astronomy. It speaks of the planets-"luminaries" and their orbits  around the sun and movements in relation to one another. Their sizes.  Their seasons. And much more.  Indeed the ancients were obsessed with the "heavenly bodies" (astronomy) and the effects they understood they had on the Earth. They had mapped out the sky and divided into a zodiac of " 12 houses".  : a star clock. 

 Historian Josephus speaks of  "strange science" we know today as Astronomy and Astrology that was studied going back as far as the biblical Adam.  Josephus in his Antiquities of the Jews relates that before the flood all that was known of astronomy was inscribed on two pillars, one made of brick and the other of stone, in order that this knowledge would survive the coming catastrophe.

I will be interested in your thread  on the subject UFO contact when you start it. Be sure to tag me when you do.
 
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I'm not sure what your goal is in opening a thread about Jesus's parents, whether to question the Christian faith or to find the truth, so it would be nice if you clear that up.
Brother D made a post saying jesus wasnt of david.
1. Apocryphe means "hidden", not false. This is from an academic point of view. If the catholic church cast the apocryphe books out it's because it's a matter of convinience and not of intelectual honesty.
That's not what the council of trent was, they removed gospels because they lacked consistency with the other gospels, for example the gospel of thomas (although not a apocryphe book) was removed at the council of trent because it appeared to have mythic developments. This is a quote from the gospel of thomas

'Simon Peter said to them: “Let Mary go forth from among us, for women are not worthy of the life.” Jesus said: “Behold, I shall lead her, that I may make her male, in order that she also may become a living spirit like you males. For every woman who makes herself male shall enter into the kingdom of heaven.”'

Doesnt exactly line up with what other gospels have.
2. You won't see any historian casting out historical material like the apocryphe books because that would be biased and not correct for the sake of an investigation. I already said that if the apocryphe books are considered apocryphe by the catholic church is because they want to square the biblical content with their faith. Example, the book of Enoc says more about UFO contact than faith, so it's cast out.
An historian would cast out a books if;
  • Doesnt have an author on the title or internally
  • Seems to have interpolation (like many of the apocrypha books seem to have)
  • Makes clear contradictions to another more reliable source
A historian if he is worth his salt would throw away the apocryphe books
3. The issue of Jesus's parents' age is controversial, but many historians agree with what I've pointed out, that Mary was like 13 and Joseph was more than 80. It's not only because of the apocryphe books but also because in the "oficial" books Joseph is absent in great part of the rabbi's life.
Why should I believe the historians? Did they have a source saying her age? Were they back then when the betrothal happened? And what do you mean by the official books of joseph? I cant find that book. And he's not a rabbi, he was a saint.
4. My source is the book "los astronautas de Yavé" by JJ Benitez, writer and journalist who mention other historial investigations in his book. There are many papers about it out there if you want to go deeper in this subject.
Yahweh's Astronauts is an interesting title, I sadly cant speak spanish would you take an excerpt from the book for me?
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Seth Brown, who has turned into a comedian because of his unbiblical ignorant notions to Jesus allegedly being from the lineage of David that are making us laugh wholeheartedly at his embarrassing expense,

YOUR QUOTE THAT YOU ARE NOT DISAGREEING WITH: "Brother D made a post saying Jesus wasnt of David."

YES, this is true beyond any reasonable doubt that Jesus IS NOT FROM THE BLOOD LINE OF DAVID, especially with you using your laughable perceived  notions of Genesis 2:30 that made you the Bible fool AGAIN, and then YOU using Jesus and Josephs blatant genealogy  in Luke 3:28-38 as Mary's genealogy which was a blatant LIE that you posed and were easily Bible Slapped Silly®️ by Jesus' true words and myself!

We accept your total DEFEAT in your own thread relating to the topic at hand, where you had you ass handed to you in embarrassment of being so Bible STUPID to said topic!!!


Seth Brown, do you have any plans to at least "try" to regain a modicum of respect within this esteemed Religion Forum after being made the Bible Fool in your own thread?  Will you be like Miss Tradesecret that had to take months off of being in this forum when I made her the Bible fool upon this same topic!  Or will you just hope that no one reads this thread of yours showing your outright Bible Stupidisms®️ ran rampant at your expense!  LOL


THIS THREAD IS FINALLY OVER WHERE WE CAN ALL SEE THAT "SETH BROWN" IS NOT GOING TO GO AGAINST BIBLICAL AXIOMS SHOWING THAT JESUS IS NOT FROM THE HOUSE OF DAVID, WE THANK THE BIBLE IGNORANT "SETH BROWN" FOR FINALLY ACCEPTING THIS BIBLICAL FACT AT HIS EMBARRASSING EXPENSE, PRAISE!

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Doesnt exactly line up with what other gospels have.
I don't get it. I think this passage looks congruent with the official (canonical) books, there is misogyny and also the rabbi seems to say that we all are the same in spirit.

A historian if he is worth his salt would throw away the apocryphe books

Why should I believe the historians? Did they have a source saying her age? Were they back then when the betrothal happened? And what do you mean by the official books of joseph? I cant find that book. And he's not a rabbi, he was a saint.
I see you can't with your Christian heart. ROFL.

Yahweh's Astronauts is an interesting title, I sadly cant speak spanish would you take an excerpt from the book for me?
Google translator is good if you dont speak a language. 

"In The Astronauts of Yavé, J. J. Benítez reveals to us countless details and circumstances surrounding the preparation and birth of Jesus and that the Church has not wanted or been able to make known until now... Who could suspect that Wasn't Jesus actually born in the village of Bethlehem? How many of us knew that Jesus' "grandparents" were from a wealthy family? It was never said that Joseph was a widower and had six children. And in this torrent of secret and ignored information until today, J.J. Benítez goes much further and presents a working thesis that may shake current theological approaches."




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Forgetting that of the  BIBLE states that the MESSIAH would be of "THE SEED" and bloodline of David.  When these BIBLICAL facts were pointed out to you,  you then switched your focus to Mary's bloodline. saying:
I may be mistaken, I haven't seen a verse that says "The seed" specifically.

Are you telling me that I  am wrong? Or is it that you are just another bible basher that has never read the scripture for yourself but preach it to others regardless?

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I never "admitted defeat" 
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I don't get it. I think this passage looks congruent with the official (canonical) books, there is misogyny and also the rabbi seems to say that we all are the same in spirit.
Do any gospels record Jesus saying to kill anybody? I dont think there is any.
Google translator is good if you dont speak a language. 
I dont trust google translator, ive found it to be somewhat unreliable.
"In The Astronauts of Yavé, J. J. Benítez reveals to us countless details and circumstances surrounding the preparation and birth of Jesus and that the Church has not wanted or been able to make known until now... Who could suspect that Wasn't Jesus actually born in the village of Bethlehem? How many of us knew that Jesus' "grandparents" were from a wealthy family? It was never said that Joseph was a widower and had six children. And in this torrent of secret and ignored information until today, J.J. Benítez goes much further and presents a working thesis that may shake current theological approaches."
That doesn't tell me what he said about mary's & joseph's age.
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Are you telling me that I  am wrong? Or is it that you are just another bible basher that has never read the scripture for yourself but preach it to others regardless?
I dont have a encyclopedic knowledge on the bible sadly, im not saying your wrong I just want you to show me the verse that says "the seed" (of david)
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That doesn't tell me what he said about mary's & joseph's age.
This is the description of the book. If you want to read the content, buy it. 😁

By the way, this book is really interesting because it also says that Mary had a birth similar to that of Jesus. Mary's parents were wealthy but old and sterile, and "an angel" promised that they would conceive a baby. Similar to Abraham too. Why would an angel (an astruanat) do that?
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This is the description of the book. If you want to read the content, buy it.
I cant read spanish sadly
By the way, this book is really interesting because it also says that Mary had a birth similar to that of Jesus. Mary's parents were wealthy but old and sterile, and "an angel" promised that they would conceive a baby. Similar to Abraham too. Why would an angel (an astruanat) do that?
Ive heard to something similar to that too, I haven't really looked into it though
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Forgetting that of the  BIBLE states that the MESSIAH would be of "THE SEED" and bloodline of David.  When these BIBLICAL facts were pointed out to you,  you then switched your focus to Mary's bloodline. saying:
I may be mistaken, I haven't seen a verse that says "The seed" specifically.
Are you telling me that I  am wrong? Or is it that you are just another bible basher that has never read the scripture for yourself but preach it to others regardless?

I dont have a encyclopedic knowledge on the bible sadly, im not saying your wrong I just want you to show me the verse that says "the seed" (of david)

Well you are the one - a Christian that as put yourself up for defending and interpreting scripture, not to mention preaching what is and what isn't said and or meant in scripture.   Don't you think you should know scripture yourself before even attempting to preach it to others ? 

And what is worse, is that  you have created a thread concerning scriptural matter that,  through lack of your own knowledge of scripture, are incapable of supporting and or defending.    And your other big failure was to start a thread on a subject that you hadn't even bothered to research before hand.

This thread was only 10 posts in when you were telling others  they- "don't understand" and that they should  - " read the bible educate themselves"#10 ? And accuse them of     "embarrassing themselves" and that you are waiting for their "pathetic attempts to explain scripture"  #20. And then go on to accuse them of using
"strawman arguments" simply for quoting the bible direct. #31

I just want you to show me the verse that says "the seed" (of david).

 Then why didn't you simply ask in the first instance?  And why haven't you even bothered to read the scripture for yourself to see if I am wrong or right, before your sly and veiled accusation of me being wrong?

This then is what is in contention: 

Stephen wrote: Forgetting that of the  BIBLE states that the MESSIAH would be of "THE SEED" and bloodline of David. #40

John 7:42 depending on which version you prefer>>>

Hath not the scripture said, That Christ cometh of the seed of David, and out of the town of Bethlehem, where David was? KJV
Hath not the scripture said that the Christ cometh of the seed of David, and from Bethlehem, the village where David was? ASV
Hath not the scripture said that the Christ cometh of the seed of David, and from Bethlehem, the village where David was? ERV
Did not the Writing say, that out of the seed of David, and from Bethlehem -- the village where David was -- the Christ doth come?' YLT

Now you answer me this! Who the fk is it that has "embarrassed themselves, hasn't  "read the bible"  and used  "pathetic explanations" in an attempt to dig themselves out of a fkn great crater dug by their own hand.?


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Seth Brown, who has turned into a comedian because of his unbiblical ignorant notions to Jesus allegedly being from the lineage of David that are making us laugh wholeheartedly at his embarrassing expense,

YOUR LAUGHABLE AND RUNAWAY QUOTE IN YOUR POST #51:  "I never "admitted defeat" 

When you RAN AWAY from my post #42 with absolutely NO attempt to refute it, because you couldn't in the first place because it showed you in just how Bible Stupid you truly are , YOU RAN AWAY IN DEFEAT in relation to your topics thread!!!  2+2=4, oil and water don 't mix, and you are a Blatant Bible Buffoon!


Stephen in his revealing post #56 above has put the final nail in your coffin, and I couldn't have said it better, where you are who you "pretend to be," which is a pseudo-christian at best, in allegedly knowing the scriptures, where you blatantly DO NOT as we have shown you in your embarrassment!

Seth Brown, you don't have the sense to feel embarrassed in how utterly Bible inept you truly are, but we will continue to show this FACT in other threads!

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I said I wouldnt make this post, yet here I am
So you lied. 

No surprise there. Christians lie all the time. They lie so much it makes sane person's head hurt.
That's not a lie.  He was forced to do something he didn't want to do - because the other person is too cowardly to have a proper debate where he can be suitably destroyed not just by his opponent but by the members as a whole. 

He wasn't being deceptive - which is the intent of a lie. 

He was actually being transparent - the opposite of a lie. 

IT's no surprise then that you have tried to deceptively put a spin on this to say the exact opposite of what he was doing.  It's your MO, isn't it? 
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He was forced to do something
Yes, he had no other choice.

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He was forced to do something
Yes, he had no other choice.
Yes, my words were probably a little extravagant.  He felt he had no other choice if he wanted to pursue this topic.