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Topic
#917
New York thin crust pizza is superior to Chicago deep dish. Change my mind
Status
Finished
The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.
Winner & statistics
After 3 votes and with 9 points ahead, the winner is...
RationalMadman
Parameters
- Publication date
- Last updated date
- Type
- Standard
- Number of rounds
- 4
- Time for argument
- Three days
- Max argument characters
- 30,000
- Voting period
- Two weeks
- Point system
- Multiple criterions
- Voting system
- Open
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Description
You read that correctly
Criterion
Pro
Tie
Con
Points
Better arguments
3 point(s)
Better sources
2 point(s)
Better legibility
1 point(s)
Better conduct
1 point(s)
Reason:
Weird one, as con concedes the debate, but then pro forfeits the remaining three rounds. I could be wrong, but I'm going with a conduct only award.
Criterion
Pro
Tie
Con
Points
Better arguments
3 point(s)
Better sources
2 point(s)
Better legibility
1 point(s)
Better conduct
1 point(s)
Reason:
I'd like to thank both opponents for this debate
POOR CONDUCT:
Pro has FF the majority of the rounds in the debate, that's poor conduct!
All other points tied, neither convinced me and both had good spelling and sources.
Criterion
Pro
Tie
Con
Points
Better arguments
3 point(s)
Better sources
2 point(s)
Better legibility
1 point(s)
Better conduct
1 point(s)
Reason:
Full forfeit.
You don't get why he gave up do you?
Hahahahaha, oh god you didn't see what I did. Read the sentence after what you wrote and then comprehend what I did. I turned his entire case into one of why the Chicago one is superior.
Full agreement with pro's R1 followed by no case for the Chicago being at least equal by any standard (to my knowledge, Scott Adkins is not a pizza... even if he would be the most complete pizza). You guessed accurately that pro would forfeit, so you got a free win. Enjoy it.
"For this Round, Con agrees with most of what Pro has suggested so far. The NY flimsy-crust is a good lunch-to-dinner ranked meal that's low quantity+quality of cheese and dough and low time-consuming to make, relative to the Chicago luscious alternative."
Go ahead, show me the concession.
R1.
I never conceded this debate not even once. Lol.
Alright, I understand. Sorry for the confusion
On this one due to one side forfeiting more than half the rounds (or is it half or more? Not sure the current moderation standard to call something an FF), they cannot be awarded the majority of the points.
Why anyone bothered to report your vote on this one, seems to be an act of pettiness.
As for Ram's vote, it's non-removal was explained in detail in comment #8.
You know what I'm not even mad anymore, I just won't vote anymore because each vote I put, no matter how decent I think it is, it gets deleted. I guess y'all value votes that are long essays (which I get and I understand since it must be in depth) but not all debates require this. In this debate, a simple, straight to the point vote would suffice -- unless you want people to elaborate on forfeits. While Pro did forfeit the rest of the debate, he is the only one who put an effort in his argument in R1. Con did not.
"unless the voter voted for the forfeiting side"
Well I voted for both sides. I voted for Pro (the side who forfeited) for convincing arguments, and I have a point to Con for conduct since he did not forfeit.
Ramshutu's vote somehow wasn't deleted when it 1. Wasn't even valid. 2. Must be bias since he is a mod as well. 3. When there is an opponent (Pro) who is the only one who makes an argument and forfeits the rest of the debates, whereas the other opponent (Con) makes little to no effort of an argument, while the rest of the responses each round are trollish things, I don't find it fair to vote "Con" and simply say Full forfeit.
I would like an explanation moving forward, thanks. It's just getting really annoying getting my votes deleted when they are honest votes. I knew this vote would get deleted.
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Vote Reported: King_8 // Mod Action: Removed
Points awarded: 3 to pro for arguments 1 to con for conduct
RFD: Arguments | Pro is the only one who made an argument, which was a solid one.
Sources | Tied as neither opponent used any sources.
S&P | Both has equal spelling and grammar.
Conduct | Conduct goes to Con since Pro forfeited the rest of the debate.
Reason for mod action: Full forfeit debates are not moderated unless the voter voted for the forfeiting side, per the site voting policy guidelines. This vote is thus removed
The voter should review the COC here: https://www.debateart.com/rules
The voter should also review this: https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/346?page=1&post_number=4
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Vote Reported: Ramshutu // Mod Action: Not Removed
Reason for mod action: Full forfeit debates are not moderated unless the voter voted for the forfeiting side, per the site voting policy guidelines. No moderation action is appropriate on this vote.
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It's a comical debate, it was supposed to be over the top
Dustandashes
You should stop using scenarios like that, and just state the reason.... because it's getting a bit ridiculous.
Deep dish style pizza is essentially a well filled with cheese and sauce, that is contained in a buttery crust. New York style pizza is the pizza most people are used to
I’ve got my lawn chair
Of course! Lol
Of course RM accepts it.
I don't know the difference.