Instigator / Pro
6
1500
rating
15
debates
43.33%
won
Topic
#6019
This statement is false.
Status
Finished
The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.
Winner & statistics
After 2 votes and with 8 points ahead, the winner is...
TheRizzler
Parameters
- Publication date
- Last updated date
- Type
- Standard
- Number of rounds
- 5
- Time for argument
- Two hours
- Max argument characters
- 10,000
- Voting period
- One week
- Point system
- Multiple criterions
- Voting system
- Open
Contender / Con
14
1500
rating
1
debates
100.0%
won
Description
This proposition is contradictory to itself.
Round 1
Forfeited
I'm going to start by saying I'm not 100% certain what the sides are exactly for this debate. It appears that the pro's position is that the truth value of the statement "This statement is false" is objectively false. However my opinion on this interesting subject is not the opposite, that 'the statement has an objectively false truth value', but that it is entirely impossible for this statement to be assigned a truth value at all. The proposition "this statement is false" is commonly known as a paradox. And a paradox is by definition,
"a statement or proposition that, despite sound (or apparently sound) reasoning from acceptable premises, leads to a conclusion that seems senseless, logically unacceptable, or self-contradictory."-Oxford Languages
Therefore it is objectively impossible for the proposition "this statement is false" to be assigned a truth value because it is logically unacceptable and self contradictory regardless of whether you declare it as true or false. I'm interested to hear your position on the subject. Best of luck to you Tickbeat
Round 2
As you can see, the statement clearly states that the statement is false. Therefore, the statement is false.
Surely you don't need me to explain how this is paradox? If the proposition "This statement is false" is declared to have a false truth value, then the statement is also correct, because it said that it is false and we declared that it is false. Since the statement is correct in stating that it is false, it is also a true statement. That makes a logical impossibility because a proposition can't be both true and false at the same time. Therefore you have a paradox.
Round 3
Now if the statement is false, then it is false that it is false. Therefore, the statement is actually true.
That's essentially what I just said... And it still shows an obvious paradox. regardless of whether you assign the statement with a true or false truth value, you always end with a self-contradiction. therefore, I repeat, it is impossible for the statement to have an objective truth value.
Round 4
Forfeited
My opponent has not provided any real arguments for there being a truth value for the proposition "this statement is false" and has just forfeited this last round. Vote for TheRizzler
Round 5
Forfeited
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Real
this was very intellectually stimulating and enlightening, thank you 🙏
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Voters dont respond well to these lol