Instigator / Pro
14
1590
rating
91
debates
58.79%
won
Topic
#5963

Try to debunk my religion tier list (list in description)

Status
Finished

The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.

Winner & statistics
Better arguments
6
6
Better sources
4
4
Better legibility
2
2
Better conduct
2
2

After 2 votes and with the same amount of points on both sides...

It's a tie!
Parameters
Publication date
Last updated date
Type
Rated
Number of rounds
3
Time for argument
Three days
Max argument characters
10,000
Voting period
Two weeks
Point system
Multiple criterions
Voting system
Open
Minimal rating
None
Contender / Con
14
1233
rating
403
debates
39.45%
won
Description

S tier: Taoism, Agnosticism

A Tier: Catholic/Orthodox Christianity, Buddhism

B Tier: Hinduism, Rastafarianism, Protestant Christianity

C Tier: Laveyan Satanism, Gnosticism, Zoroastrianism, Thelema, Sikhism

D Tier: Animism, Wicca, Atheism, Deism

E Tier: Amish, Islam, Judaism, Jainism, Bahai, Paganism

F Tier: Mormonism, Jehova's Witness, Spiritual Satanism, Scientology

Criterion
Pro
Tie
Con
Points
Better arguments
3 point(s)
Better sources
2 point(s)
Better legibility
1 point(s)
Better conduct
1 point(s)
Reason:

Even though I am Christian and it seems like I would be Bias, and vote towards something that would be towards religion, I am unable to deem a winner. Neither side cited any sources, and it seemed like the rebuttals did not really go anywhere. We had an instances of satanism being on the list and the con disagreed with its placement, and there wasn’t really a clear rebuttal besides him mentioning that it wasn’t really a religion (which means it shouldn’t be on the list due to it not being a religion per say). If pro cited some sources to rebut claims such as against the satanism claim and the eating claim, he probably could have won (Example for this is that most people in the US are overweight and eating too much has been scientifically shown to cause harm. I mention this, due to there being data on this). Anyway this was interesting though lol!

Criterion
Pro
Tie
Con
Points
Better arguments
3 point(s)
Better sources
2 point(s)
Better legibility
1 point(s)
Better conduct
1 point(s)
Reason:

Argument
Pro’s Resolution amounts to a challenge to prove how/why his religion tier list is flawed, but advises the list is by his own choice “to value one factor over another,” and then declares to challenge his list “is of course impossible.” Also, Pro’s description of his tiered placements were sampled by far too many separate religions to make sense of placements by tiers. One must conclude by choice that Pro has stacked the deck.
Con rebutted disagreeing with the tier placement of tier C Laveyan Satanism, offering argument that it did not deserve its tier placement. Pro’s reply offered no more justification than by pointing to the tiers, making comparative mention of other religions, whose tier placements were just nebulous as Laveyan Satanism: by Pro’s whimsy at work. Tie

Sources
Neither offered source references. Pro’s personal claim of personal choice cannot count as a source. Tie

Legibility & Conduct
Tie for each