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Topic
#5963
Try to debunk my religion tier list (list in description)
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Description
S tier: Taoism, Agnosticism
A Tier: Catholic/Orthodox Christianity, Buddhism
B Tier: Hinduism, Rastafarianism, Protestant Christianity
C Tier: Laveyan Satanism, Gnosticism, Zoroastrianism, Thelema, Sikhism
D Tier: Animism, Wicca, Atheism, Deism
E Tier: Amish, Islam, Judaism, Jainism, Bahai, Paganism
F Tier: Mormonism, Jehova's Witness, Spiritual Satanism, Scientology
Round 1
This tier list is created based on multiple factors, so it may seem inconsistent in certain ways but a religion can be bad in some ways but good in others.
It is primarily based on how true I think they are, how much depth and interesting lore they have, how practicable they are, how enjoyable and beneficial they are to practice, how much sense they make etc.
For example Jainism has an interesting concept of karma, but practicing Jainism would be such a total pain in the ass that I put it all the way down in E tier.
The goal of Jainism is to be a monk because not being a monk guarantees you not to escape the karma cycle, but being a monk means you have to sweep the ground everywhere you walk to avoid stepping on bugs and can't even cook food because it kills micro organisms yet you also can't consume raw food because it also kills micro organisms.
The religions in F tier are ones I deem to be completely retarded, the ones in S tier are the ones I deem to be not only completely true but the most beneficial and enjoyable to practice.
In order to "debunk" the list you have to establish that my placement of at least one religion doesn't make sense, but changing one placement doesn't necessarily debunk the whole list. You have to establish that the way I am placing them is fundamentally flawed.
Because if we are still placing them in the way that I would place them according to my own criteria, then the revised list will still be "my" list due to using my own criteria.
This is of course impossible because I can simply choose to value one factor over another, so good luck convincing me to change my placement of even one of the religions.
I mean yes there is a consistent set of values that I have that inherently affect the placement which if shown to be flawed would uproot the entire tier list, but good luck figuring out what it is.
It is primarily based on how true I think they are, how much depth and interesting lore they have, how practicable they are, how enjoyable and beneficial they are to practice, how much sense they make etc.
For example Jainism has an interesting concept of karma, but practicing Jainism would be such a total pain in the ass that I put it all the way down in E tier.
The goal of Jainism is to be a monk because not being a monk guarantees you not to escape the karma cycle, but being a monk means you have to sweep the ground everywhere you walk to avoid stepping on bugs and can't even cook food because it kills micro organisms yet you also can't consume raw food because it also kills micro organisms.
The religions in F tier are ones I deem to be completely retarded, the ones in S tier are the ones I deem to be not only completely true but the most beneficial and enjoyable to practice.
In order to "debunk" the list you have to establish that my placement of at least one religion doesn't make sense, but changing one placement doesn't necessarily debunk the whole list. You have to establish that the way I am placing them is fundamentally flawed.
Because if we are still placing them in the way that I would place them according to my own criteria, then the revised list will still be "my" list due to using my own criteria.
This is of course impossible because I can simply choose to value one factor over another, so good luck convincing me to change my placement of even one of the religions.
I mean yes there is a consistent set of values that I have that inherently affect the placement which if shown to be flawed would uproot the entire tier list, but good luck figuring out what it is.
C Tier: Laveyan Satanism
I disagree with this one.
Satanism deserves first place, if for nothing, then at least for directly opposing to rapist religions like islam, christianity and hinduism, and teaching people that they can have more freedom than these religions give them.
Round 2
Laveyan Satanism is inferior to every religion placed above it. It's merely atheism but with more of a defined philosophy, which is basically just "it's ok to do hedonistic stuff".
Taoism provides much more of a framework for how you should approach life, in a way that actually leads to better outcomes and lets you adapt to any scenario.
Agnosticism is better than atheism because "there is no god" is just as much an assertion as "there is a god" when no one actually knows.
Christianity is better because it has rich lore and many lessens contained in the Bible and in the church whether all of them are correct or not, there is still plenty of wisdom there that can't be matched by Lavey telling you it's ok to eat cheeseburgers and have sex before marriage.
Buddhism teaches you to be at peace no matter what and not be dependent on Laveyan cheeseburgers to be happy.
Rastafarianism has cool music and a lot of weed, but they also teach you to be healthy instead of eating cheeseburgers.
Hindus invented yoga and yoga is also healthy, but Hinduism is also a lot cooler and has way deeper lore and mythology.
Taoism provides much more of a framework for how you should approach life, in a way that actually leads to better outcomes and lets you adapt to any scenario.
Agnosticism is better than atheism because "there is no god" is just as much an assertion as "there is a god" when no one actually knows.
Christianity is better because it has rich lore and many lessens contained in the Bible and in the church whether all of them are correct or not, there is still plenty of wisdom there that can't be matched by Lavey telling you it's ok to eat cheeseburgers and have sex before marriage.
Buddhism teaches you to be at peace no matter what and not be dependent on Laveyan cheeseburgers to be happy.
Rastafarianism has cool music and a lot of weed, but they also teach you to be healthy instead of eating cheeseburgers.
Hindus invented yoga and yoga is also healthy, but Hinduism is also a lot cooler and has way deeper lore and mythology.
It's merely atheism but with more of a defined philosophy, which is basically just "it's ok to do hedonistic stuff".
Its not just that. It also has fire magic and blood magic. Now, I am not a big fan of cutting myself, but sometimes I bleed from nose or poop blood, so that blood can be used to pray to the Gods. Also, fire magic is easy. Put some food in fire, watch it burn while asking fire to fulfill your desire. Also, Satanism promotes overeating, which is very good when working out because you want to eat over 4000 calories to gain weight and build muscle. Many famous people who compete in sports said that the key to their success was not just training, but also eating a lot of calories to enable them to train and build muscle. Strongmen eat up to 10000 calories per day. This just proves that Satanist value of overeating creates strongest people. All other religions command you to starve yourself, so go ahead and see what you prefer, to be starving or to be big and strong.
Round 3
1: Laveyan Satanism does not have fire magic or blood magic, it has rituals which are used symbolically and therapeutically to let out emotions.
2: Fire magic sounds like a waste of food.
3: Overeating is not healthy and neither is putting on obscene amounts of muscle mass. Just because you can lift more weight doesn't mean you are "stronger" because if you die from a bad diet and overstressing your body just to add more muscle then you were actually weakening yourself long term and not getting stronger at all.
4: Most of the religions on my tier list don't promote "starving yourself".
2: Fire magic sounds like a waste of food.
3: Overeating is not healthy and neither is putting on obscene amounts of muscle mass. Just because you can lift more weight doesn't mean you are "stronger" because if you die from a bad diet and overstressing your body just to add more muscle then you were actually weakening yourself long term and not getting stronger at all.
4: Most of the religions on my tier list don't promote "starving yourself".
Overeating is not healthy and neither is putting on obscene amounts of muscle mass. Just because you can lift more weight doesn't mean you are "stronger" because if you die from a bad diet and overstressing your body just to add more muscle then you were actually weakening yourself long term and not getting stronger at all.
Literally all strongest people use overeating as a weapon to gain strength. "Living longer" does not make you able to lift as much weight, thus doesnt make you stronger.
I ate 4000 calories today and drank 6 liters of water. Its what we Satanists do to gain more power. But just to be clear, dont drink 1 liter or more of water per hour. About 0.6 liters every hour is fine.
Would anyone like to vote on this egregiously assembled bucket of beans?
Not sure how Satanism takes 4th place. Like, really, this is so wrong and incorrect.