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#5927

Climate skepticism is wishful thinking.

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eboxjmc
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@Mps1213
Thanks for enquiring, this is the first debate for me and I didn't get an opposing point of view. You would make an interesting opponent for this argument as I understand your opinion makes you an outlier in your field.

The debate about, is the climate changing? has been done and dusted. Also that any natural conditions as a cause have been robustly eliminated. The scientific consensus is virtuously unanimous.

The thing about the aspect of this debate is to address the psychology of climate change denial. If someone has a logical alternative theory that has been published and peer reviewed and has a growing consensus it would help to demonstrate that denial of the prevailing consensus is not just avoidance of the uncomfortable truth.

So feeling like you don't find it wishful thinking actually supports the idea it is exactly wishful thinking.

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@Best.Korea

What do you think rising temperatures indicate? Why does that mean humans are the driving force?

The fact around this entire debate is that the data are incredibly uncertain. I am a geoscientist with a degree that focuses in data analytics. I can explain to you in as much detail as you do or don’t want as to why the data is uncertain. Uncertainty in science means no concrete claims are made. Which is typically the path most scientists take in regard to this discussion, even though the media tries their hardest to pretend otherwise.

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@eboxjmc

I am a geoscientist by profession. I know the majority of my debates on this site are about drugs, however, geoscience is what I do for a living.

I completely disagree with the title of this debate in every way. I would be willing to have this debate with you. Although the proposition is weird. If I can make a case that I don’t find it wishful thinking at all does that mean I win? Or do I need to actually explain why I am not willing to certainly say humans are the cause of the current climate change? Either way, I’ll debate you on this topic.

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@Best.Korea

I don't know, maybe some research is required. Do you doubt NOAA findings that the temp measurement is random, not a continuous rise year after year? Complain to them.

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@fauxlaw

I dont need any mass research. Maybe when maximum temperatures reach so high that we are barely able to survive, people will have sense knocked into them.

I guess people only learn when they are punched in the face.

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@Best.Korea

NOAA [National Oceanic and Atmospheric Association] has kept temperature measurement records since 1997, and over the next twenty years, not even a blink in geologic time, reported measurements in their Annual Report. The problem is, as you accuse our human insensitivity to "climate change," the highest temperature measurements have not been in consistently consecutive years as activists claim. Further, 11 years in those 20 were not even in the top ten hottest years, so it would seem we're looking at natural variation, not a trend. Further, I am professionally familiar with measurement tools and their calibration, and I ask: how many global measurement stations are there in the world? Are they all using the same measurement equipment? Is the equipment used the optimum equipment for the measurement intended? Is the accuracy of the equipment meet the ten-times-accuracy required to assure accuracy of measurement for whatever the allowed tolerance is? How accurate and timely are the calibration schedules for these measurement devices? These are just a few of the measurement questions that must be asked. And I'll tell you, from professional experience: the data collected is not recognizing the importance of these questions, resulting in flawed data. So, what are your expectations, again, regarding the accuracy of measuring "climate change?" Inaccurate data means what for accurate conclusions?

It is mostly those who dont believe their own eyes, those are the ones denying climate change.

The temperatures have risen in past few decades so much.