1500
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6
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Topic
#5888
I am more likable of a debater than you are
Status
Finished
The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.
Winner & statistics
After not so many votes...
It's a tie!
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- Publication date
- Last updated date
- Type
- Standard
- Number of rounds
- 4
- Time for argument
- Two weeks
- Max argument characters
- 2,000
- Voting period
- Two weeks
- Point system
- Winner selection
- Voting system
- Open
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Description
The game is to try and get the reader to like you more than the other debater. So you must do everything in your power to try to butter the reader up and persuade them with reasons why they should vote for you.
I'm not going to lie - choosing to participate in this debate is a gamble, and there are no real rules other than trying to make the readers like you more. Wanna play?
Round 1
I would first like to thank AnonYmous_Icon for joining me in this experimental debate. You are a brave soul.
I often think about how debates are sometimes not decided on the merits of the logical arguments alone, but are decided because of the cognitive biases at play that make the audience emotionally like a debater more. They vote for the debater they like more and then they post hoc justify their decision to do so with fake logical reasons... So this may be the first intellectually honest debate in a way.
My underdog backstory:
MI SS ISS I PPI” sang the girl two spots ahead of me in the line to enter the playground. Trembling, as the boy in front of me began to effortlessly recite it, I listened intently for how to spell it. All of the blurry letters switched places in my mind, but my place in line did not, and the kids looked back at me. “MI SSI SIPY... No,” I stammered, “MIS IIS PY... No. MIS...”
When we started reading in 1st grade I would stay many hours after class finishing my work. My mom got worried when I said I didn’t want to go to school any more and I had always loved school and loved learning. When my teacher started to label me with premature diagnosis, like ADD and ADHD, my parents decided it was time to take me out.
To this day I don’t know what is more true—that I have a unique brain because I was homeschooled, or that I was homeschooled because I have a unique brain. Homeschooling, I would come inside and sit still with my mom on our couch and by sheer force of will try to learn reading, spelling, punctuation and all of my own language that became foreign to me on paper. At educational therapy, I played word games, traced letters in cursive on a chalk board. Dyslexia—is what they finally called it. Every word was a battle, every sentence a war, and my mom was a freaking five Star General that through years of faith in me taught me not only to read, but to love learning despite how incredibly difficult it still was for me.
I really appreciate u for what U have done, it's pretty nice
I honestly don't like to reveal who am I but I make it for u
The child who first go to school and observe the the school and the second day of school don't like to be in school
(school is not the school but the f** business of a men who considered as a noble and educated )
That school is bad school that make me a wise child that know things before others
Round 2
Thank you for calling me "Son of Socrates." Being called anything related to Socrates is the biggest honor for me because of what a master he was at making people question what they really knew for the first time. And Hence my username!
You seem like a nice person, so I appreciate the venerability and I also like learning a bit about the real you. :)
I resonate with what you said about school. Sometimes school is not about really learning or about stoking our natural flame of curiosity about the world, but can be very classist and about pedigree.
I find it very unsettling how there seems to be this competition for rich people to put their child in the nicest elementary school that their money can afford, and I do think that this gives them an edge against their peers, but at the same time it can perpetuate generational poverty cycles where the poor does not have access to as good educational opportunities as the rich.
It is for this reason that I decided to start a non-profit that is dedicated to closing the educational poverty gap. Founding a non-profit has not been easy, but I find the work to be very rewarding because we help provide free spaces to learn outside of traditional educational centers where there is a cost barrier.
I will always be that little kid who was rejected in the first grade by the traditional educational system, so in a way, I created a space for other first graders with neurodiversity -- a space where they will be rewarded by their divergent thinking rather than being chastised. I hope to one day see a little kid walk into the space I've created with wonder in his eye, and in them I will see apart of myself, but also I hope they will become so much more!
yeah its cool Socrates_had_a_baby
haha
if u make a space for learning , i know u don't put age limit for anyone to learn there
I hope to one day little kid( human ) that u c into ur learning space that u've created with wonder in his eye is AnonYmous_Icon
i'm the one who know less about truth than everyone and who need to know about truth more than everyone
Bad school and good teacher is a blessing but i learn from both from enemies and friends
bad school is this world and good teacher , is everyone who teach me
bad school is the father and good teacher is the mother but both r nessary to give birth to virtue
there's father and mother but virtue is struggling to be happend
Round 3
Son of Socrates, I have to give it to you—you speak in riddles, but there’s something beautiful about them. You weave wisdom into your words like a philosopher from another era, and I respect that.
I also appreciate your faith in my learning space. And you’re right—there is no age limit on learning. If you walked into the space I created, I wouldn’t see just a student, but a fellow seeker of truth. I believe that the modern school system has been built fundamentally on a mistake, and that is to design classrooms around age groups rather than ability. The current school system uniformly teaches an age group at the same level of difficulty with no reference to the kids that make up the composition of the classroom. Because of the fact that a random sample of kids all of a certain age will have widely different natural capacities, and the teacher can only lecture on one level at a time, some kids are going to be able to grow (the ones up to par) and some kids are going to fall behind. Now this doesn't mean that the school systems should only make classes filled with kids that are already doing great, but it does mean we should have more opportunities for leaning environments that are for advanced placement and that make room for children to advance up the levels allow so they can progress at their own rate rather than at the rate of their age. And then there will be other classrooms at lower levels that stay with students even though they are having difficulty with a subject, and these classrooms come underneath them and support them where they are at, and give them the attention they need, rather then just ignoring them and focusing on the more gifted students like in a mixed classroom.
This debate has turned more into a space to think about the modern school system, but I like that it is giving us the opportunity to share and think, and you are learning more about what I am passionate about - the modern educational system.
Son of Socrates, I have to give it to you............. I respect that.
i start from where u start
it means we r brothers not opponents or enemies not different
U r the spirit who abandoned by teachers of world and adopted by teacher who brought u to this world , i know u love ur teachers
I'm , who adopted by every teacher but i abandoned them , everyone is Plato and i'm the Aristotle , i respect them before i know them
We r both liars , haha but we don't afraid to say , we r liars , who r the seekers of truth
maybe we abandoned each other like Athens and Socrates
but its true
students of Socrates still come to rescue Socrates from death , becoz they don't like Socrates to left them
now what u want to be , like Athens or Aristotle or AnonYmous_Icon learn from teachers but after all abandoned them or like Students of Socrates , who learn from teacher but don't like to abandoned them
i think we r diff , u never abandoned ur teachers , u love them but i do not do that , haha
we r same in different waywe r different in same way
Round 4
I must admit, I wasn't sure where this debate would go, given its experimental nature. I thought it might turn into a competition to obsequiously placate the audience, but I didn’t expect it to become something much sweeter and more innocent—the shared experience of being failed by the traditional educational system and our attempt to rekindle our intellectual enrichment through autodidacticism, as well as the challenge of DebateArt itself.
I appreciate your comparison of our epic quest to Socrates' death. Socrates was famously put on trial in 399 BCE, charged with "corrupting the youth." He challenged conventional wisdom and authority through his method of questioning, teaching young Athenians to question their elders, political leaders, and even religious traditions—an act seen as subversive. Yet, this subversiveness was driven by his quest for absolute truth, independent of merely winning debates, as the Sophists were concerned with.
Perhaps, in our culture, we value being perceived as intelligent more than we value adopting a posture of humility—being willing to get things wrong and ask "stupid" questions in pursuit of what is truly real, as Socrates did.
May we die like Socrates in this quest, brother, rather than merely try to win a debate. :)
May we die like Socrates in this quest
that's cool ending of great stories where hero is the one who die for greater good.
I think if Socrates choose to left the Athens instead of taking hemlock - he must die forever
but
he drinking hemlock and now he live forever
even he lose the debate of life instead of truth
u as a son of Socrates even win the debate but u r still alive
that's maybe not the ending of story , i think
that's the first thing we discuss at our modern educational system
@anonymous_Icon.
haha you are nice.
It's true, that was my childhood. I still read very slowly, but I can read well after years of training.
that's cool , i like to vote for u
is it true what u say