Instigator / Pro

Sunshineboy217

1500

rating

debates

50.0%

won

Topic

#5821

The Earth Is Round, Not Flat

Status

Finished

The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.

Winner & statistics

Winner

After 2 votes and with 2 points ahead, the winner is...

Sunshineboy217

Parameters

Publication date: 11.22.2024 11:26PM
Last updated date: 12.18.2024 04:25PM
Type: Standard
Number of rounds: 5
Time for argument: Three days
Max argument characters: 10,000
Voting period: Two weeks
Point system: Winner selection
Voting system: Open

Contender / Con

DPrek

1500

rating

debates

0.0%

won

Description

I don't know who here thinks the Earth is flat, but it definitely isn't. Change my mind.

Round 1

Sunshineboy217

11.23.2024 03:24PM

Pro

The logic that flat-earthers use is usually obscure and nonsensical enough for me to have to here it first. So typically, when talking about the Earth’s shape, I prefer to listen to the other side first, and then explain away their reasons for thinking the Earth is flat. Please give me all of your reasons, and then we can talk.

DPrek

11.24.2024 10:35PM

Con

Arguing that the Earth is flat speaks volumes about the kind of person you are. While thousands of photos from space, countless videos, and direct confirmation from astronauts who’ve seen the Earth’s curvature all prove otherwise, I respect the art of debate. So, let’s engage.

Here’s my argument: if the Earth were truly flat, there wouldn’t be time zones. The Sun’s rays would illuminate the entire surface simultaneously, rather than moving gradually due to the Earth’s rotation. Additionally, if the Earth were flat, wouldn’t it have edges or endpoints? Yet, we’ve never encountered such boundaries. The spherical shape of the Earth explains both time zones and the continuous surface without “falling off” points.

Round 2

Sunshineboy217

11.25.2024 03:01AM

Pro

Uhhhh. I’m the one saying that the Earth is round. The argument that I am pro for is “The Earth Is Round, Not Flat.” So you don’t even know what you’re debating about.

DPrek

11.26.2024 09:08PM

Con

You never chose a side, so i did. And wasn’t stated anywhere that you were arguing against. So i win

Round 3

Sunshineboy217

11.27.2024 03:50PM

Pro

Um, no, you actually don’t win. The title of the debate is literally “The Earth Is Round, Not Flat,” and I’m the Pro side. Therefore, I am arguing that the Earth is round, not flat. Next time, please read more carefully before accepting a debate.

DPrek

11.29.2024 03:22AM

Con

okay can you just accept it as a tie

Round 4

Sunshineboy217

12.02.2024 12:32AM

Pro

I’ll let the voters decide if it was a tie. You’re the one who entered the debate without even knowing what you are debating about, so I don’t think we should just make it a tie.

DPrek

12.02.2024 01:44PM

Con

You never elaborated on what side you were debating on, you just stated your topic . And am sure i would’ve won in any side i was on.

Round 5

Sunshineboy217

12.02.2024 08:27PM

Pro

I did say what I was debating for! The title literally says "The Earth Is Round, Not Flat," and I am the Pro side. The word "pro" means "for," meaning I am for the idea that the Earth is round, not flat. I also said in my first argument, "I prefer to listen to the other side first, and then explain away their reasons for thinking the Earth is flat." Is explain away their reasons for thinking the Earth is flat not clear enough for you? You said that you're sure you would've won in any side you were on. Well, that arrogant statement means nothing, because who's the one who didn't pay attention to the debate they accepted? You. So let the voters decide, don't start trying to call it a tie or say that you would have won.

DPrek

12.04.2024 04:25PM

Con

#10

You changed the topic

befairbruh

11.24.2024 11:23PM

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@Sunshineboy217

@DPrek

dprek i think you got it wrong you have to debate on the earth being flat not being round

Sunshineboy217

11.23.2024 10:30PM

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@befairbruh

That's why I'm excited about this debate.

befairbruh

11.23.2024 03:34PM

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@Best.Korea

some people lie to themselves to support their world view and when they find truth they just look away or avoid thinking about it, it makes sense

Best.Korea

11.23.2024 01:24AM

There was one flat earther, but he quit the site.

befairbruh

11.23.2024 12:37AM

JHAJHSJAHSJAHJSAHJAH sounds fair i did the same with capitalism but i need to explain more stuff so i get the win

Sunshineboy217

11.23.2024 12:20AM

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@befairbruh

That's the point. I need a win

befairbruh

11.23.2024 12:03AM

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@Sunshineboy217

yo but this is too easy for you wtf JHAJHAJHJHA

Lemming

12.13.2024 07:52AM

Criterion

Pro

Tie

Con

Points

Winner

1 point(s)

Reason:

While I can understand someone making a mistake,
There is Pro and Con, the title makes a claim, Sunshineboy217 was Pro,
They even include their view in the description, implying if not stating they think the Earth is round.
Con realized their error, and still had three rounds they could have used to make the best of the situation, they didn't so my vote to Pro.

I suppose one could 'try to argue the Earth is not round, like an octagon is not round. Though such would be a bit cheap, and still might not work.

Or argue the various theories people bring up when they argue the Earth is flat. I can't recall what arguments said people use though.

Tickbeat

12.10.2024 03:48PM

Criterion

Pro

Tie

Con

Points

Winner

1 point(s)

Reason:

The very system of a debate calls for the instigator / pro to agree with the title of the debate, and the contender / con to disagree with the title of the debate. The title of the debate is, "The Earth is Round, Not Flat," and therefore, since Sunshineboy217 is instigator / pro, this means that he is the one arguing for the position that the earth is not flat. This means that since DPrek is contender / con, he is the one arguing for the position that the earth is flat. Both this website and the title of this debate make it very clear which position each person takes, and it was therefore invalid for DPrek to claim that he did not know which position he was taking until the debate started. That argument would have been valid if the title were something like, "Is The Earth Round, or Flat?" But it was not, the title came in the form of an assertion. Sunshineboy217 is being significantly more reasonable in every argument of this debate, whereas DPrek was not, and thus, I must give Sunshineboy217 my vote.