Instigator / Pro
1
1500
rating
6
debates
50.0%
won
Topic
#5820

It Is Appalling That Anybody Would Ever Call Woodrow Wilson A Great (Or Even Good) President

Status
Finished

The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.

Winner & statistics
Winner
1
1

After 1 vote and with the same amount of points on both sides...

It's a tie!
Parameters
Publication date
Last updated date
Type
Standard
Number of rounds
4
Time for argument
Three days
Max argument characters
10,000
Voting period
Two weeks
Point system
Winner selection
Voting system
Open
Contender / Con
1
1485
rating
19
debates
44.74%
won
Description

Woodrow Wilson has been put as a fairly good president on countless of ranking lists I've seen, but quite frankly, I think it's appalling that that could ever happen. Woodrow Wilson is, in my opinion, one of the five worst presidents of all time, and you'll find out why if you debate with me.

Criterion
Pro
Tie
Con
Points
Winner
1 point(s)
Reason:

Pro R1
The Lusitania was carrying weapons, and why should Americans have to die because of other Americans choosing to go into war zones.
Though insulting and something to be wary of, the Zimmermann Telegram failed, and I do not see why we would need to see it as an 'all German policy, new people rotate in and out.
I don't think the League was a 'terrible idea.

I admit I don't care for the Sedition Act of 1918 at face value.
Eh, being a racist isn't something 'great, but lot of people were racist back then.
Espionage Act sounds a bit bad on face value.
Spanish Flu 'was bad I hear, I'm unfamiliar with what actions Wilson took.

Pro round 1 isn't bad, but relies a lot on people being familiar with history.
Which isn't bad so long as the judges 'are familiar with history.

Con R1
Interesting argument, but I'd think it 'would be appalling to meet people one considers stupid.
Course depends on definition of appalling maybe.
Very bad/awful vs shocking.

Pro and Con rest of rounds
Mm, I'd rather Pro continues to argue, perhaps make arguments on why it is bad that people should call Wilson a good president.
But Con does not seem to mind. Con 'might mind, and might prefer that a person votes for them, but this is not readily apparent to my by their R2 of subsequent rounds.